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Good stuff Matt, that should cut down on the repetitive posts (or at least in theory it should).

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is it true that these headphones do not fair well with female vocals? i listen to trip hop/hip hop, jazz, electronic, and alot of laid back/chill music, how would 

Quiet - Rachael Yamagata sound for example?

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I have added a small FAQ section to the original post to help those who are curious about buying the he400 or already have a pair but have questions. Please note that this is a work in progress. biggrin.gif

If it's not too much to ask, is it possible to include my earpad mod in the mod section of OP? It is a much more drastic improvement to the sound than the grill mod, and offers a very good modification opportunity for those who dislike the velour pads for various reasons (e.g. too much clamp, the fabric material, the tonal balance, the cost etc).

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^^ No problem. 

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Thanks for the prompt heads-up regarding HeadAmp.com! On a related note, has anyone paired the HE-400 with the Pico dac/amp? I originally was after a HE-500/bifrost/lyr combo, but I decided based on excellent reviews of the HE-400 to save some cash and purchase them and perhaps keep my Pico as a source/amp. 

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Thanks for the prompt heads-up regarding HeadAmp.com! On a related note, has anyone paired the HE-400 with the Pico dac/amp? I originally was after a HE-500/bifrost/lyr combo, but I decided based on excellent reviews of the HE-400 to save some cash and purchase them and perhaps keep my Pico as a source/amp. 


If nobody chimes in, you could always email Justin directly and ask (justin@headamp.com) - I'm sure he's tested them out before.

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Originally Posted by Enkaydian View Post

is it true that these headphones do not fair well with female vocals? i listen to trip hop/hip hop, jazz, electronic, and alot of laid back/chill music, how would 

Quiet - Rachael Yamagata sound for example?

 

I'm not sure about Ms. Yamagata, or how she sounds on the HE-400.  But, Etta James is the bomb on these things.  wink.gif

 

The HE-400s will handle almost anything, with the exception of Tiny Tim.  biggrin.gif

 

Edit: For those who don't know Tiny Tim ...

 

 


Edited by wje - 2/5/13 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by Enkaydian View Post

is it true that these headphones do not fair well with female vocals? i listen to trip hop/hip hop, jazz, electronic, and alot of laid back/chill music, how would 

 

I listen to much of the same genres you listed and it all sounds terrific on the HE-400 to me.  I recommend a good quality, transparent amp, though.

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^^ Do you own the Lake People amp? I am intrigued by it. 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

^^ Do you own the Lake People amp? I am intrigued by it. 

 

I do.. I've had it for about three weeks...  It's fan-freaking-tastic.  It's essentially 80-90% of the Violectric V200's performance (per trusted heads).  Can't imagine moving on from it unless I'm ready to drop $1200+ on my next amp.

 

The HE-400 loves it.. my IEMs love it.. and the (ultra-picky) HD800 sounds phenomenal on it (not surprising since the V200 is said to be a great match for the HD800).  The thing I really like about it is that it's got serious, clean power to drive orthos.. and drives my sensitive IEMs with excellent precision and nuance.  Seems rare to find that in an amp these days.  It's very transparent.. fantastic control and clarity.. the treble is ever-so-gently rolled off in the upper most frequencies.. so it smooths peaky, bright headphones without losing clarity.

 

I think it's a seriously underrated, overlooked amp here.. especially since it's coming from a company with an excellent pedigree (Violectric/Lake People).  Project86 has an excellent review of it at InnerFidelity.


Edited by FlySweep - 2/5/13 at 4:19pm
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I just got the Magni and Modi with my HE-400, because the reviews said it was very similar to the O2+ODAC, and yet almost $100 cheaper. It also looks awesome. However, I'm reading some impressions that the high (5x) gain, which cannot be changed, isn't good for the HE-400. It has been suggested that the computer volume be turned down to compensate for this. Could someone please comment on what level the computer volume should be kept at (and why I should lower this volume), and what are the drawbacks of doing this?

 

I don't know the technicalities, but something tells me that lowering computer volume 'shouldn't' be a good thing, because it makes the amp work harder to achieve the same volume through the headphones.


Edited by Atriya - 2/5/13 at 5:22pm
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I think that wje is coming out with some impression/recommendations on the m/m stack. Stay tuned.

 

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Originally Posted by Atriya View Post

I just got the Magni and Modi with my HE-400, because the reviews said it was very similar to the O2+ODAC, and yet almost $100 cheaper. It also looks awesome. However, I'm reading some impressions that the high (5x) gain, which cannot be changed, isn't good for the HE-400. It has been suggested that the computer volume be turned down to compensate for this. Could someone please comment on what level the computer volume should be kept at (and why I should lower this volume), and what are the drawbacks of doing this?

 

I don't know the technicalities, but something tells me that lowering computer volume 'shouldn't' be a good thing, because it makes the amp work harder to achieve the same volume through the headphones.

To be clear, you can get the pot to comfortable listening volumes without any hiss or channel imbalance. It's a good match for the HE-400 in that aspect. The issue with the pot is that the usable range is very, very little, and the control is minimal. Barely touching it could get you to uncomfortable volumes once you get around 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock on the pot.

 

If you are not using 24-bit files, you can digitally attenuate the volume down on your computer around 20-40 percent (not positive on the range here, someone with more knowledge can chime in) if you are running your Modi in 24-bit mode, which you should be. If you ARE using 24-bit files or you attenuate the volume down even lower, you will technically losing data. Much like dropping bit rate on files, the quietest sounds would theoretically be what are lost. Whether or not this is actually noticeable to you at all is very doubtful, but being as all of us are paranoid weirdos, it's significant in that aspect.

 

You could also buy a pair of attenuators. I really am pleased with the Harrison Labs -12dB attenuators from Parts Express (or Amazon, which is still through Parts Express, but offers a little more peace of mind).

 

I went with the attenuators and I love my M&M combo. I will only ever upgrade just for the luxury of doing so

 

Matt: How is the volume pot on the Lyr with the HE-400? Do you get a lot of range, is there adjustable gain to get a better range, etc? I'm still convinced the Lyr is my next amp purchase just for the luxury of it, so I can have the M&M be my bedroom setup.

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If nobody chimes in, you could always email Justin directly and ask (justin@headamp.com) - I'm sure he's tested them out before.

 

I have, and the Pico works well with the HE-400.  

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Ok, I am finally about ready to take the plunge on these, but I have a question about a specific retailer if anyone has purchased these recently from HeadAmp (here).  On the site it says "HE-400 + Velour Pads".  Does this mean that they come with the stock pleathers, in addition to an extra pair of velours?  Or does it mean that they swapped the pleathers with the velours and are sending them that way?

 

I'd like to try both sets of pads, and if HeadAmp sells them for $395 total with an additional set of pads that'd be a pretty sweet deal.

 

yes, both sets of pads

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