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Just got the J$ pads. Popped them on the phones and gave some of my reference tracks a spin. Some users on this forum are gonna shun me, but I think these are the best sounding pads yet.

I think it might have something to do with the amount of holes in the pad (is this what you all are calling "damping"?) From a pure logical standpoint, I would suspect that the pads with more holes in them would sound different than the pads with only a few holes. But that's my humble opinion.

Had to cut the screen off the velours (I always hated the velours anyway). Things got a little wayward, like Kansas.

The holes you see with J$s are for damping, so that you don't get excess chamber ringing in the earpad openings (the residual sonic energy gets absorbed into the holes, which cleans up the overall sound). The Jergpad mod uses similar principles.

post #6617 of 17703
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Originally Posted by BrokeStudent View Post

My favorite is reading about people hearing a difference when using different USB cables from their PC to a DAC.biggrin.gif

 

What?  Are you telling me that the $150 Audioquest USB cable is a sham?  

 

Seriously, when looking for a USB cable, all one really needs to really get is one that has RFI / EMI chokes on it.  Usually, the Monoprice cables have these.  If not, Radio Shack sells a 2-pack for about $1.59.  Place one over the cable near one end of the USB and another towards the other end.  This will prevent any noise from oscillating in the event the standard shield on the cable doesn't reject those horrifying signals floating around the air.

post #6618 of 17703
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Great info.  Thanks.  I am looking into a balanced cable as I'm getting an amp with a balanced input.  I bought some XLR cables to connect the DAC to it.  Just trying to balance everything in the chain.  I don't really know what I'm getting myself into or what improvement I should expect.  "Balanced" is a new concept to me, but I'm curious to see what it can do.

 

Somewhere, I had posted a link to a diagram I made to correctly map the Neutrik XLR connectors to the wire pins.  I can't find my link on the Interweb at the moment.  I'll have to find it and upload it again.

 

Edit: Here you go: http://home.comcast.net/~wayne.ernst/taps.pdf

 

 

Or, this:

 

 


Edited by wje - 1/30/13 at 3:02pm
post #6619 of 17703

Some of those fancy audiophile USB cables are actually more likely to work even worse than regular USB 2.0 cables. Sometimes they aren't up to USB 2.0 standards due to them doing things in some ridiculous way and they end up causing dropouts and such.

post #6620 of 17703
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Originally Posted by RMac View Post

Just got the J$ pads. Popped them on the phones and gave some of my reference tracks a spin. Some users on this forum are gonna shun me, but I think these are the best sounding pads yet.

I think it might have something to do with the amount of holes in the pad (is this what you all are calling "damping"?) From a pure logical standpoint, I would suspect that the pads with more holes in them would sound different than the pads with only a few holes. But that's my humble opinion.

Had to cut the screen off the velours (I always hated the velours anyway). Things got a little wayward, like Kansas.

Shhhhh! You are not allowed to say that on this thread. wink_face.gif...................

post #6621 of 17703

Received my J$ pads today. Thanks Wayne! They are way more comfortable than the velours. Haven't been able to do any critical listening but they do seem to create a better seal thus better bass. I don't want MLE to come yell at me though so I'm going to not divulge into that anymore.

 

I also received my Modi + Magni stack. Such a nice looking stack its just too bad the modi can't stand in the same realm as my audio-gd DAC. I'll find another use for it though. The amp is exactly what the HE-400's needed though. Much impressed. 

 

Just need to do the grill mod one of these days and I'll be done.. for now. 

post #6622 of 17703

Oh oh ....

 

This is good news for potential buyers looking to possibly get the HE-400 at a good price if this goes through.

 

However, it is bad news for the current owners and authorized vendors as the bottom will fall out on pricing if this does eventually happen.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/648836/massdrop-for-hifiman-he400-and-hifiman-he500

 

This has already happened with the Matrix M-stage a few months ago.

post #6623 of 17703
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

Oh oh ....

 

This is good news for potential buyers looking to possibly get the HE-400 at a good price if this goes through.

 

However, it is bad news for the current owners and authorized vendors as the bottom will fall out on pricing if this does eventually happen.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/648836/massdrop-for-hifiman-he400-and-hifiman-he500

 

This has already happened with the Matrix M-stage a few months ago.

 

I brought this to the attention of some people at HiFiMAN today -- they said this is NOT happening, and that I could post about it.

HeadAmp Audio Electronics - home of the Pico and Gilmore amps.  Now with Audeze, Fostex, HiFiMAN, Sennheiser, and STAX.
Find us at www.HeadAmp.com

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post #6624 of 17703
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

 

I brought this to the attention of some people at HiFiMAN today -- they said this is NOT happening, and that I could post about it.

 

Justin,

 

It is truly appreciated.  I was reading their forum (on Mass Drop) and they claimed that when they spoke to Mass Drop individuals, this deal was in the final phases of negotiation.  In the end, it is far, far better if this doesn't happen.  Sure, someone might get a pair of headphones for $80 to $100 less, but then all credibility with the company, their authorized vendors will happen to go down the drain.  Mass Drop is a market for companies that are hinging on failure.  If they want to increase their sales by hundreds of dollars to infuse some cash into the company, it will work in the short term.  However, they must then get adjusted to lower profits and probably lower operating costs (read: company lay-offs) to keep the wheels in motion.

post #6625 of 17703

they said they've turned down Massdrop twice and dont know why this "deal" was posted.

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post #6626 of 17703

Please we must protect the profits of headphone companies marketing these devices at hundreds of dollars above material/labor cost. Sure - $399 is almost unprecedentedly cheap for a planar magnetic. But don't think for a second they aren't making bank off of the HE-400s popularity. 


Edited by jiggahwhat - 1/30/13 at 3:46pm
post #6627 of 17703

So if you guys want to be in heaven with your HE-400's, you gotta listen to this album:

 

 

Absolutely incredible stuff...

post #6628 of 17703
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Please we must protect the profits of headphone companies marketing these devices at hundreds of dollars above material/labor cost. Sure - $399 is almost unprecedentedly cheap for a planar magnetic. But don't think for a second they aren't making bank off of the HE-400s popularity. 

 

Nonsense.  Do you have any idea as to what business costs actually are?  Health premiums for a family?  $18,000+ per year.  Social Security?  Yes, the small business owner have to pay "both" portions: both the employer side and the employee side.  This is approximately 15% alone.  While the gross profit might seem high on paper, the net profit is what matters.  The net profit is nearly peanuts.  What about the vendors who provide free "overnight" shipping and it runs $40.00?  Again, more business expenses.

 

I hardly think most business owners are living in 1.5 million dollar houses because some of them have taken advantage of profits by gouging a customer.  Me?  I'll gladly pay $399 day in and day out for the HE-400 headphones.  If one doesn't agree with the pricing structure, they can vote with their wallet.  They can choose to go with another brand or just refuse to buy the product.

 

Edit: I'm 49 years old and I've been doing analysis of business for many, many years.  Life is much more than getting a bargain.  Sure, I love to save money as much as the next guy, but I also look at the realistic side of things, too.


Edited by wje - 1/30/13 at 3:53pm
post #6629 of 17703
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Nonsense.  Do you have any idea as to what business costs actually are?  Health premiums for a family?  $18,000+ per year.  Social Security?  Yes, the small business owner have to pay "both" portions: both the employer side and the employee side.  This is approximately 15% alone.  While the gross profit might seem high on paper, the net profit is what matters.  The net profit is nearly peanuts.  What about the vendors who provide free "overnight" shipping and it runs $40.00?  Again, more business expenses.

 

I hardly think most business owners are living in 1.5 million dollar houses because some of them have taken advantage of profits by gouging a customer.  Me?  I'll gladly pay $399 day in and day out for the HE-400 headphones.  If one doesn't agree with the pricing structure, they can vote with their wallet.  They can choose to go with another brand or just refuse to buy the product.

 

Edit: I'm 49 years old and I've been doing analysis of business for many, many years.  Life is much more than getting a bargain.  Sure, I love to save money as much as the next guy, but I also look at the realistic side of things, too.

Well, do as beats, and then we are talking about profits

post #6630 of 17703
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

Me?  I'll gladly pay $399 day in and day out for the HE-400 headphones. 


I'd gladly pay $80 for them

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