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post #5716 of 18674
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Excellent track for the HE-400s Infected Mushroom – Becoming Insane [spotify link]

 

 

That's an fantastic track, thanks! 

 

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Originally Posted by Moustache View Post

Well, I've read that the Lyr is V-shaped too, I don't know if it's right though, I never tried it. But anyway some tubes could change that sound signature I guess.

 

Have yet to hear a V-shape on a Lyr, or to hear anyone describing it as such. A bit sparkly at times. 

 

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Originally Posted by BearWant View Post

 

Is this a matter of me just being midcentric and unwilling to accept the flaws of this headphone, am I sensative to sibliance, or is this perhaps an issue with my particular pair of he-400.  I am using MOG 320 kbs files for music.  Though I have tried cds and still experience this issue.

 

Also, one other question.  Does anyone feel some give on the grill on the outside of their headphone.  My right grill is very flush with the cup; however, my left grill sticks out slightly and when I press lightly on it there is some give.  It doesn't seem to affect sound at all, but I was just wondering.

 

With the exception of the sibliance, I am falling in love with these headphones; however, I just can't stomach this issue.  And now unfortunately that my awareness is raised I'm always attending for it rather than immersing myself in the music. Help!! I want to love these!

 

Rev 3? Might explain the sibliance. What colour are the driver housings?

 

Grills always sort of do that on these. Makes it easier to pull out for re-grilling mod.

post #5717 of 18674
I always thought the Lyr was a bit V-shaped. The mids were quite recessed compared to all SS amps I have used. That was with two sets of tubes. That's probably why I didn't care for it at all. I liked V-shaped headphones, and paired with a V-shaped amp, it exaggerated what I like of the headphones.

I'm sure there are tubes to offset that, but I didn't care to hunt for some magical tubes. Gladly stay away from that headache.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/20/13 at 4:54pm
post #5718 of 18674
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^^ best amp that I've owned.
post #5719 of 18674
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

 

Which part? That i'm hearing Bob Marley?

 

And no, i'm not smoking anything, if that's what you're thinking tongue.gif  just eating some hashish pie. Maybe that's why i'm not hearing sibilance anymore

 

No.  The part about what was happening inside your pants was T.M.I.  tongue.gif

post #5720 of 18674
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No.  The part about what was happening inside your pants was T.M.I.  tongue.gif

Oh. uhm... sorry. That's the hashish pie effect.

post #5721 of 18674

So since I only got one vote, the HE-300 were shipped off and will be disassembled and painted this week. The color? Pink.

 

I'm going to build my fiancee's introductory system out of the HE-300, and I may as well make it pink for her. Will be switching her music library to flac and giving her my Fiio E17.

 

But yes. Get ready to see some pink HE-300 as a proof of concept that my buddy won't break headphones taking them apart lol. After that: HE-400.

post #5722 of 18674
Just dont make the mistake of making it glossy.
post #5723 of 18674
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I'm sure there are tubes to offset that, but I didn't care to hunt for some magical tubes. Gladly stay away from that headache.

 

Amen to that

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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

So since I only got one vote, the HE-300 were shipped off and will be disassembled and painted this week. The color? Pink.

 

I'm going to build my fiancee's introductory system out of the HE-300, and I may as well make it pink for her. Will be switching her music library to flac and giving her my Fiio E17.

 

But yes. Get ready to see some pink HE-300 as a proof of concept that my buddy won't break headphones taking them apart lol. After that: HE-400.

Would love to see that. Never got around to getting red spray paint for the HE-400s.

post #5724 of 18674
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Just dont make the mistake of making it glossy.

Well once he has it disassembled, trying one and then sanding and trying another won't be a huge deal. Glossy pink might just pop on the HE-300! I told him to take a ton of pictures during disassembly, painting and re-assembly so I can share them here.

 

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

 

Amen to that

Would love to see that. Never got around to getting red spray paint for the HE-400s.

Yeah I was thinking red for my HE-400 but I'm not necessarily hating where they're at right now. I might go for a gunmetal. I'm not sure. I gotta see how HE-300 turns out. I'm excited :]

post #5725 of 18674

Okay, so I've had these for a couple of days and I have pretty much listened to stuff on them continuously for these past days. If there's anything I could say about them, if I were to kind of make up descriptive words as I go along to describe what I'm hearing, I would say that the sounds are kind of dark. Indeed I do hear things very clearly, and different sounds really seem to stand out on their own, where as with my old headphones perhaps they would meld together with all of the sounds, and for lack of better words not creating as immersive an experience. With these headphones I think I am starting to feel a burn in, of my mind if you will. Back peddling to what I said about "Dark sound." It's not a completely lush and colorful sound. If there's a song with guitar and bass, I don't hear how they would otherwise be audible. I kind of feel like I'm almost having to strain myself sometimes to hear these instruments when they are lower in the mix. However I try to be completely honest and open minded, I am still learning and more or less picking up more noticeable differences between these headphones and my old ones. One thing that is more audible than the acoustics are the percussions. I'm wondering if this is because of my lack of an amplifier. I am using nothing but a DAC (I hooked the headphones in through an RCA adapter), and I have been told that when I plug it into an amplifier the sound will "come alive." Yet some have told me it won't make much of a difference at all. I guess I'll have to wait and see. I'd still like some inputs though. Thanks.


Edited by Hifi Man - 1/20/13 at 6:14pm
post #5726 of 18674
Rev 3? Might explain the sibliance. What colour are the driver housings?

They are white and fairly translucent... So not rev 3....thanks for the comforting word on the grills
post #5727 of 18674

Here's the headphone stand I've been working on lately. More details over here!

 

post #5728 of 18674
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Here's the headphone stand I've been working on lately. More details over here!

 

Looking good!  I've got my wooden stand in the works right now - here is the unstained, untreated top.  Still deciding if I should mount it on a base, or add a wall bracket underneath...

 

post #5729 of 18674
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Originally Posted by Hifi Man View Post

Okay, so I've had these for a couple of days and I have pretty much listened to stuff on them continuously for these past days. If there's anything I could say about them, if I were to kind of make up descriptive words as I go along to describe what I'm hearing, I would say that the sounds are kind of dark. Indeed I do hear things very clearly, and different sounds really seem to stand out on their own, where as with my old headphones perhaps they would meld together with all of the sounds, and for lack of better words not creating as immersive an experience. With these headphones I think I am starting to feel a burn in, of my mind if you will. Back peddling to what I said about "Dark sound." It's not a completely lush and colorful sound. If there's a song with guitar and bass, I don't hear how they would otherwise be audible. I kind of feel like I'm almost having to strain myself sometimes to hear these instruments when they are lower in the mix. However I try to be completely honest and open minded, I am still learning and more or less picking up more noticeable differences between these headphones and my old ones. One thing that is more audible than the acoustics are the percussions. I'm wondering if this is because of my lack of an amplifier. I am using nothing but a DAC (I hooked the headphones in through an RCA adapter), and I have been told that when I plug it into an amplifier the sound will "come alive." Yet some have told me it won't make much of a difference at all. I guess I'll have to wait and see. I'd still like some inputs though. Thanks.

 

 

I can't say for sure how much of an improvement you'll get with an amp with the dac, but a dac by itself is in no appropriate way to amplify something.  It delivers a line source with very high impedance.

post #5730 of 18674
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

 

 

I can't say for sure how much of an improvement you'll get with an amp with the dac, but a dac by itself is in no appropriate way to amplify something.  It delivers a line source with very high impedance.

So, if the dac by itself is no way of amplifying something, are you saying that the amplifier is necessary, or do you mean that if I were to need to amplify something that a dac alone wouldn't cut it? I'm not sure what line source or impedance is btw.

 

 

im·ped·ance  
/imˈpēdns/
Noun
The effective resistance of an electric circuit or component to alternating current, arising from the combined effects of ohmic resistan...
 
Yeah, I still don't understand.

Edited by Hifi Man - 1/20/13 at 8:16pm
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