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post #5581 of 20389

I'm so annoyed by the fact that the sound gets so much better when you "break" the seal. Much more bass impact. Did you guys tried anything to improve that?

post #5582 of 20389
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Originally Posted by torresfelipe View Post

I'm so annoyed by the fact that the sound gets so much better when you "break" the seal. Much more bass impact. Did you guys tried anything to improve that?

It does have more bass, but I doubt it's better sound quality though.. You could look into jergs pad mod, though you won't get more bass
post #5583 of 20389
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Originally Posted by torresfelipe View Post

I'm so annoyed by the fact that the sound gets so much better when you "break" the seal. Much more bass impact. Did you guys tried anything to improve that?

 

 

I remember reading some pages back that if you only insert 3 tabs instead of the 4 on the pads it causes the same effect, increase in bass. Maybe my memory is wrong though.  

post #5584 of 20389

It's not a huge step backwards in quality. Seriously. 

 

I'll check on that merkil. Thanks for the advice.

post #5585 of 20389

I wish i could have the bass impact of the Beyers gel pads with the open sound of the velours. The bass with the gel pads is off the charts, more impact then my Lcd-2s, but really make vocals sound hollow and nasal.

post #5586 of 20389
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post

I wish i could have the bass impact of the Beyers gel pads with the open sound of the velours. The bass with the gel pads is off the charts, more impact then my Lcd-2s, but really make vocals sound hollow and nasal.

 

If I had to guess, I'd say bass impact would be greater with velour than gel pads. I mean, when I break the seal here, bass impact is great. Getting more seal makes no sense, from this point of view.

post #5587 of 20389

Bass impact is refined with my mod, relative to unmodded pleathers. by damping the pad internally and allowing it to breath (removal of the rubber flaps) the bass is boosted in clarity and tactility, so punch is more visceral now.

 

The absolute best bass you can get out of HE400 is still with J$ beyer pads though; the extra thickness and special foam and leather make the bass extremely tight and almost pistonic on the eardrums.

post #5588 of 20389

Nice to know jerg. Seems like you found a solution to this problem. I'm ordering a pair of pleathers in case I don't like the mod and definitely try that.

post #5589 of 20389
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Originally Posted by torresfelipe View Post

Nice to know jerg. Seems like you found a solution to this problem. I'm ordering a pair of pleathers in case I don't like the mod and definitely try that.

Just follow the guide step-by-step and you'll have yourself a kickin' pair of pads.

post #5590 of 20389
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Originally Posted by torresfelipe View Post

 

If I had to guess, I'd say bass impact would be greater with velour than gel pads. I mean, when I break the seal here, bass impact is great. Getting more seal makes no sense, from this point of view.

No, the gels add the best impact I have heard yet, but they sound terrible.  They get that vacuum seal similar to the Xb series and dance around on your head, it is almost unbearable at a higher volume.

 

The gels are horrible pads that mute the sound, but I love them on the D5ks.


Edited by Fearless1 - 1/18/13 at 4:47pm
post #5591 of 20389

when I ordered my pair from head-direct, I saw that they have Hifiman leather pads and that they come with my order instead of velours. Has anybody tried the leathers?

post #5592 of 20389
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Originally Posted by l veracity l View Post

when I ordered my pair from head-direct, I saw that they have Hifiman leather pads and that they come with my order instead of velours. Has anybody tried the leathers?

Everyone has tried the pleathers (they're not real leather btw), heck, the topic of the last 7 pages of discussion has been about them, mostly because of my mod L3000.gif

post #5593 of 20389

Jerg's gonna bash me, but i came to the conclusion that i prefer the velours. There's something in the sound with the velour pads i enjoy more, can't explain exactly what.

 

I've probably done the mod wrong though.

post #5594 of 20389
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

Jerg's gonna bash me, but i came to the conclusion that i prefer the velours. There's something in the sound with the velour pads i enjoy more, can't explain exactly what.

 

I've probably done the mod wrong though.

Hey everyone has a different preference in tonality. I wanted both the weighty lower end of the pleathers and the detailed open upper end of the velours, with a midrange that blooms just the right amount without being either too overbearing or too withdrawn, and (when properly done wink.gif) the jergpads deliver all of them in spades.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if some prefer a slightly faster (velours, J$'s) or slower more romantic (unmodded pleathers) tonal balance.

post #5595 of 20389
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Hey everyone has a different preference in tonality. I wanted both the weighty lower end of the pleathers and the detailed open upper end of the velours, with a midrange that blooms just the right amount without being either too overbearing or too withdrawn, and (when properly done wink.gif) the jergpads deliver all of them in spades.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if some prefer a slightly faster (velours, J$'s) or slower more romantic (unmodded pleathers) tonal balance.

Romantic. Intimate. Those are great words for unmodded pleathers. I actually prefer unmodded pleathers with my Little Dot MKIII tube amp, but velours with the E17. I wonder if that will be the same case when I get the Magni+Modi on Tuesday. I would certainly describe the general tube sound as romantic and intimate. Sometimes plodding, but always personal. I'm not great at describing sound lol.

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