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I just did the mod, but i'm not sure i did it right.
The vocals seem to have really improved a little, but the pads are looking too fragile, and there's a very little "space" on the side of one of them where it makes contact with the phone. Don't know if this affects the sound, haven't heard anything wrong so far.
I think i'll switch back to the velours.
Which pad mod? J$ pads or jerg pleather hole?

Hello ,
I purchased a used ( but in Mint condition ) he-400 (rev4) yesterday. I really like transparency , clarity and its fast sound. He-400 has less bass ( both quality and quantity IMO) and overally less body than my Sig pro but I can live with that but i'm really in trouble with its trebles. I listened all style of Music form Infected Mushroom to Schubert and besides some jazz and some EDM I really can't live with these trebles
. With he-400, my favourite Schubert piece (String quintet op 163) makes me grind my teeth.
I need feedback from you experiences he-400 fans :) . Is there any chance trebles will tame with more burn in or should I accept he-400 is not for my tastes ? The first owner and me had about 25h of listening until now .
Thanks for your answers 
I have had the same problem at the begining of using the HE-400.
I was (and still am) using the Fiio E17 as an amp/dac, so i had to lower the treble at -6 to be able to listen to almost anything.
I dont know if its the burn-in or my ears got used to it but right now i normally use treble 0 and bass 2+ or +4 as max.
In fact, in mass effect 2, hailstorm mission (recruiting tali) tehre is a high cresendo that is very treble dependant, and i normally use +10 treble in there.
Id say that its not a bad idea to give them a month of testing (thou not sure if you can still return them by then).
Personally these seem too dark for me, so i might have to resell them and go for something more neutral like the beyer T1, HE-500 or HD600.
I love them over all, but at some points they are way too dark for my taste.
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Jerg's.
It seems this little space i mentioned is because of the removed rubber flap and ring.
Edited by Okamoto - 1/18/13 at 8:20am

Well, this is the kind of news that I was fearing. I had an original goal to use a budget of 500 dollars to get a pair of headphones. I'm not able to spend another 80 dollars I hadn't planned to spend, especially when I'm not sure what the difference in sound will be. Though, it looks like there's enough people on this site to convince me that they do in fact need an amplifier. In that case I will probably end up returning these headphones and the DAC (it's a schiit modi). Is there any headphones + amplifier that would sound good for metal? I want to take advantage of the return policies I have right now, and in the end I'll probably still want a high end audio equipment upgrade from my Logitech G35s.
Maybe this isn't the right thread to ask. Is there a thread I can use for this discussion?
I'm not sure when you bought the Logitechs however the best move would be to return the logitechs, keep the HE400's and get a Zalman Clip on mic for your mic needs (I use one, people always tell me how crystal clear I sound and what 'headset' I use). Those are only $10 and then you have lots of money left over from the return to get a decent amp.

I'm not sure when you bought the Logitechs however the best move would be to return the logitechs, keep the HE400's and get a Zalman Clip on mic for your mic needs (I use one, people always tell me how crystal clear I sound and what 'headset' I use). Those are only $10 and then you have lots of money left over from the return to get a decent amp.
I've had these logitechs for about a year. At this point I've cut off that fabric that covers the wire, and they're not even returnable, even if I could.
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So what are your thoughts on the overall sound vs the velours? I know you mentioned the vocals but what about the overall experience? Was it worth it or you just gonna stick with the velours? Wait, maybe you need more listening time. Let us know when you've had a chance to analyze fully.

So here's the situation. I didn't have an amplifier for my headphones, but it turns out there is one that is being used for speakers in my house http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-DTA-100a-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B004JK8BDK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top Does anyone think that this amplifier would make a difference in sound?
I want to use it to help me decide if I want to get a new amplifier. Would this amplifier make a difference?
My post from the bottom of the last page.
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Why are you quoting it again?
Fair enough. I dont have much experience with amps so I did a quick search on this site to see if anyone knew anything about that amp. It appears that its a decent speaker amp but not a great headphone amp. However, it would still be a good idea to plug your HE400s in there (and into a good source) as they will still provide some amplification that would give you at least a decent idea as to how these things should sound.
Heya, I am just browsing through this thread and I was wondering how well these would fare in music production? I come from an Alessandro MS1i and I quite loved it. But then it died. So, since I can afford it, I decided to look at a more expensive pair. What I've read from these cans they seem really cool, but at the same time I don't know if they'd be suitable for producing glitch hop (and other EDM genres) in Ableton or something. Are there any specific problems to note for this use?
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I just did the mod, but i'm not sure i did it right.
The vocals seem to have really improved a little, but the pads are looking too fragile, and there's a very little "space" on the side of one of them where it makes contact with the phone. Don't know if this affects the sound, haven't heard anything wrong so far.
I think i'll switch back to the velours.
Care to take a few photos to show what you mean?
If you do the mod right, the soundstage, openness, and air of the pleather sound should have improved drastically. Not just changes in tonality.
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So what are your thoughts on the overall sound vs the velours? I know you mentioned the vocals but what about the overall experience? Was it worth it or you just gonna stick with the velours? Wait, maybe you need more listening time. Let us know when you've had a chance to analyze fully.
Just put the velours back, and what i first noticed is that there's more sibilance on the vocals. They seem more distant aswell.
The sound is more open with the modded pleathers. It may be because of the dust protection, or because of those spaces on the pad.
These are just my first impressions, i have to hear more to judge better.
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Exactly. The sound is way more open. That was the first thing i noticed. The vocals have less sibilance too and are more forward.
I was about to take some photos, but my camera battery faded, and i don't know where i put my cellphone usb cable.
I have to go out now, but once i get back i'll take some pictures and post it here.
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