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Matt:



Post SA-31




BTW, you shouldn't call it the C2. That was a whole other A-GD amp they no longer sell, lol.

What Schiit stack, the Modi/Magni?

Better. Not as bright. I preffered the ODAC to the Modi, which was more fleshed out and not as bright. The internal DAC on the Compass 2 sounds basically the same as the ODAC to my ears, mneaning better than the Modi by a hair. The Compass 2's amp sound basically as good as the SA-31 (without the SA-31's ability to drive things needing 10watts at 40ohm, lol). Still 3.5watts at 40ohm is more than enough for most headphones.

It's clear, energetic, and I could swear the mids on the HE-400 sound their best with this setup. I haven't heard the HE-400 sound this clean.

Here's my initial impression on the Compass 2 thread:
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Having owned the Modi/Magni as well as the ODAC (which I also used with the Magni and SA-31), I would TOTALLY go straight for the Compass 2. The Magni/Modi was slightly treble oriented (just a hint). The ODAC is wonderful, but comparing it to the inner DAC on the Compass 2, it sounded pretty identical, and you get the 32 bit options on the Compass 2, whereas the ODAC stops at 24/96.

I love the simplicity of having everything in one package. Less clutter, and cables. Yes, you can use your own DAC with the Compass 2 if you want (like testing the ODAC with the Compass 2's amp), and it has a fixed line out (for using as a DAC only for another amp which I find unnecessary unless you wanna try tube amps) or variable line out for something like speakers that don't have their own volume control (I hooked up my cheap desktop speakers to it which don't have their own volume control). In default, it's variable, so if you want fixed, you'll have to add a jumper (as mentioned on A-GD's website.) I say that unless you plan on using another amp, I'd leave it at variable.

The Compass 2 is full of energy and clarity. I honestly think it pairs up better with the HE-400 than the SA-31 did (I could swear the mids are clearer with the Compass 2). Of course, changes are subtle, but I really love the Compass 2 so far. The Magni and O2 are very neutral amps, while the Compass 2 is neutral with a hint of musicality/warmth. I much prefer to have some warmth. Trust me.

The initial setup (on the computer) is a bit of a pain, but not too hard.

This is my 3rd Audio-GD device, and I'm a true fan of Kingwa's stuff. I don't see myself getting another main amp/dac in the future, instead probably just getting a portable one for a laptop or something (like the E17...for the 3rd time, lol).

edit: Hmm, I may have to change from ES9018 direct to using the DIR module, as I'm getting some crackles here and there. It's a very rare occurence, but it did happen. Had a feeling my PC's sound card was gonna be a piece of crap. rolleyes.gif
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Setting the Compass 2 SPDIF input through DIR module or feed to ES9018 direct :
The Compass 2 have built in DIR module (Users can choice either DIR9001 and WM8805 install while place the order, in default install WM8805 and SPDIF feed to ES9018 direct ) .
Users can choice the SPDIF signal feed to either ES9018 direct and through DIR module with 3 jumpers setting , which is simply for users choice different sound flavors .
If match with low end PC sound card have large jitter cause the sound interrupt by feed to ES9018 direct, users can setting through DIR module for help . In default SPDIF feed to ES9018 direct

The setting guide:
1, Pull off the power cable at first .
2, Take off the top cover of the chassis.
3, Setting the jumpers .
4, Get back the top cover and push into the power cable tight .

I specifically asked for the DIR9001 as it's more neutral than the stock DIR chip. I guess I'll change it when I come home from shipping out the SA-31.

Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/15/13 at 11:03am
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They're here! They're finally here!!!! Unfortunately, my M&M stack has not yet arrived so I don't have anything to power these except for my PC and an E11 amp that I borrowed. I can't wait to give these a listen without much power and powered with a proper DAC.

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Thread Starter 

He400 thread is #2 on the boards!! Not that it matters, but this little thread has come a long way. 

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He400 thread is #2 on the boards!! Not that it matters, but this little thread has come a long way. 

How does it feel to have started the #2 biggest thread of all time, mister big shot?

 

Wait there are tons of threads with way more post-counts and views than this one, where are you getting the info from?


Edited by jerg - 1/15/13 at 11:17am
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Front page. Look down and right. I believe that it's most current active threads. Certainly not all time. Not yet...very_evil_smiley.gif

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Forzen tomato? F... that, Where is my frozen WaterMelon?!

 

I dont know about the quality, but ill check if the Fiio E9 can give the HE-400 that extra boost Im missing, and if not ill try the BIfrost/lyr (at shop that is). 

If not, i suspect i just dont like the sound signature of these HP in particular, and i will start looking for the next thing i want.

 

I just hope if it turnes out that way, the signature i want wont be again more expensive...

 

I think I know exactly what you mean by the bass. Keep in mind, I have very limited experience with headphones however these seem to just lack, bass. I'm only using a PC powered with an E11 and the bass just doesn't seem there and appears 'distorted'. Headphones like the ultrasone pro 900 gave me a nice "rumble" and had my ears vibrating when the song called for it (and if the eq was up +4 for example). Although the mids were recessed and the highs could be sibliant they seemed to fair better for EDM. These just don't have it(bass) and it does sound distorted. It just feels "empty" for the lack of a better word.


Maybe its the DAC/Amp, but I guess we'll see when that comes in sometime this week. 

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The thread is #2 for the past day, past 7 days, and #3 for the last 30 days. smily_headphones1.gif

My gaming thread is #7 for the last 30 days. wink.gif
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/15/13 at 11:36am
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Lol, I like how HE400 is sandwiched between the anime thread and the music game thread, as the most active threads currently.

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How does it feel to have started the #2 biggest thread of all time, mister big shot?

 

Wait there are tons of threads with way more post-counts and views than this one, where are you getting the info from?

 

Like, which ones?  Oh, you mean the threads on the Bose, Beats, Monster, Soul, other headphones?

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I know how we can get to #1

 

HE-400 vs Beats impressions go go go

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Those are more when you change it to show 'ALL Time'. That's when the HE-400 thread is WAY behind. As far as past day, past week, past month, I'm sure the HE-400 will be consistently in the top ten, until the next big thing comes out.... maybe like the K702 Annie thread getting more new owners. wink.gif
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Those are more when you change it to show 'ALL Time'. That's when the HE-400 thread is WAY behind. As far as past day, past week, past month, I'm sure the HE-400 will be consistently in the top ten, until the next big thing comes out.... maybe like the K702 Annie thread getting more new owners. wink.gif

I haven't ever heard a single AKG headphone but I've always been interested. The Annie looks really cool, though I'm not a bit fan of suspended headbands.

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Man, the Annie has the BEST suspended headband. If you're comparing that to the Audio-Technica ones, then I understand. The AT suspendedheadbands are the worst things ever.
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This is all if you want the warm sound of the audio-gd stuff.  If you're looking for the cheapest way to get guaranteed, clean power with lots of overhead, the Magni and O2 can do it.  I havn't heard the HE-400 distort off those.  The only downside is they might not be the warmth you're looking for.  They certainly give plenty of excess juice for EQ though.

hmm im in aus so e09k is probs best option for me since i can get it for  $110... not sure if magni/O2 are worth the extra $50 since i already have an e17 and e09 would obv be its dock

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I think I know exactly what you mean by the bass. Keep in mind, I have very limited experience with headphones however these seem to just lack, bass. I'm only using a PC powered with an E11 and the bass just doesn't seem there and appears 'distorted'. Headphones like the ultrasone pro 900 gave me a nice "rumble" and had my ears vibrating when the song called for it (and if the eq was up +4 for example). Although the mids were recessed and the highs could be sibliant they seemed to fair better for EDM. These just don't have it(bass) and it does sound distorted. It just feels "empty" for the lack of a better word.


Maybe its the DAC/Amp, but I guess we'll see when that comes in sometime this week. 

 

you stole the words out of my mouth, I believe we just need a better amp to provide more room for EQ, then it won't distort

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