**Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread** - Page 293

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Originally Posted by magicman 

I have a question for guys in possession of Lyr

 

Can you hear any audible noise / hum / buzzing during the silent passages or when there is no music playing ?? Driving hifiman family of course ... (he500, he4, he5le especially)

 

I am a bit worried about Lyr's high gain for pretty sensitive he500 or noise floor having mighty 6W per channel ??

 

Is it dead silent or tube type dependent ?

Mine is dead silent. If there is any noise with the Lyr, it is usually a ground- loop.

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Originally Posted by Habu 

Yes, bass is more neutral than my Denon D5000 was. But if you listen some bass heavy songs then HE-400 will deliver :P I enjoy HE-400 bass a lot more than Denon's. (Maybe im getting old :))

 

Bass quantity: D2000/D5000 > HE-400

Bass quality: HE-400 >>> D2000/D5000

The HE-400s sounded "bass light" to me when I first listened also.

With an amp, the response seemed to improve (though my ears had adjusted a good deal by then).

I went back to my old headphones seeking to find if the amp somehow helped them - nope. The old headphones, btw, despite a more aggressive bass curve, actually seemed "bass light" to me and, worse, lacking some extension which I had gotten used to hearing on some tracks.

Conclusion - the HE 400 are NOT a bass head's can. But for me to say that the bass isn't more than ample at times would be a lie. The response, volume, and texture are so good, you forget that good bass was, a year or two ago, just a prominent thump,thump, boom! The bass is a real part of the music with these cans, so other than feeling like I have a "perfect subwoofer" playing, the response is even and not really under or over-stated. It will depend mainly on the recording.

So the door gets knocked on and I spring out of bed to collect what I think is HE400s and open freaking headlamps for my dad... POOP! It seemed like the right size and everything. Buzzkill of the day. 

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Originally Posted by Okamoto 

By the way, which one is the wrong and which one is the right?

 

I found this one on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSE-Digital-Optical-Coaxial-to-Analog-RCA-Audio-Converter-DAC-24Bit-192Khz-B-/181040547271?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item2a26db85c7

 

Is this one you're talking about?

Actually, this is the one I'm getting - should be on Wednesday.  http://www.amazon.com/Converter-Decoder-PCM2704-Black-Cable/dp/B008YD36J2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357577597&sr=8-1&keywords=muse+dac

The differences seem to be that the one you linked, would require a separate power adapter.  I've read where people have had to go out any buy one to use the DAC.  On the DAC that I provided a link for, it appears to have a slightly smaller footprint, and doesn't appear to have a need for a power plug, but most likely, just gets its power from the USB input.

So I decided since they didn't deliver them to my door I'll go check the mailbox, I drove to the mailbox and what do you know. Never been so happy to see the key for the big box, YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH, finally. Impressions to follow. SOOOOO happy. Thanks for listing price lower too so there was no duty. Great business Justin! Come on Canada post, if you can bring cheap ebay headlamps from China to my door you might as well bring the headphones too 

EDIT: These are pretty great guys, I think they will fill the void for a while. They just sound incredible, really good buy for the price. I'll try to make a more detailed review later. 

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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead The response, volume, and texture are so good, you forget that good bass was, a year or two ago, just a prominent thump,thump, boom! The bass is a real part of the music with these cans, so other than feeling like I have a "perfect subwoofer" playing, the response is even and not really under or over-stated. It will depend mainly on the recording.

Be careful with that amazing texture :) - the bass is perfectly controlled and deep but comparing to he5le there is no texture at all and thats why I have sent them back to my dealer

he5le are in completely different league - details and depth are also dramatically better, in other aspects he400 are great, really, like perfectly pimped hd650 on steroids but nothing like hd600 for me

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Originally Posted by wje 

 

Actually, this is the one I'm getting - should be on Wednesday.  http://www.amazon.com/Converter-Decoder-PCM2704-Black-Cable/dp/B008YD36J2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357577597&sr=8-1&keywords=muse+dac

 

The differences seem to be that the one you linked, would require a separate power adapter.  I've read where people have had to go out any buy one to use the DAC.  On the DAC that I provided a link for, it appears to have a slightly smaller footprint, and doesn't appear to have a need for a power plug, but most likely, just gets its power from the USB input.

But does it have an optical input?

I need the SPDIF input, as i stated before.

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Originally Posted by Okamoto 

But does it have an optical input?

 

I need the SPDIF input, as i stated before.

Yes, it has an optical input.