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Put on an option for some nice boutique cables+velours for like $50 more, and you've got a winner! Though with boutique cable prices... lol.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/7/13 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by magicman View Post

I have a question for guys in possession of Lyr

 

Can you hear any audible noise / hum / buzzing during the silent passages or when there is no music playing ?? Driving hifiman family of course ... (he500, he4, he5le especially)

 

I am a bit worried about Lyr's high gain for pretty sensitive he500 or noise floor having mighty 6W per channel ??

 

Is it dead silent or tube type dependent ?

 

Mine is dead silent. If there is any noise with the Lyr, it is usually a ground- loop.

post #4383 of 18152
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Originally Posted by Habu View Post


Yes, bass is more neutral than my Denon D5000 was. But if you listen some bass heavy songs then HE-400 will deliver :P I enjoy HE-400 bass a lot more than Denon's. (Maybe im getting old :))

 

Bass quantity: D2000/D5000 > HE-400

Bass quality: HE-400 >>> D2000/D5000

The HE-400s sounded "bass light" to me when I first listened also.

 

With an amp, the response seemed to improve (though my ears had adjusted a good deal by then).

 

I went back to my old headphones seeking to find if the amp somehow helped them - nope. The old headphones, btw, despite a more aggressive bass curve, actually seemed "bass light" to me and, worse, lacking some extension which I had gotten used to hearing on some tracks.

 

Conclusion - the HE 400 are NOT a bass head's can. But for me to say that the bass isn't more than ample at times would be a lie. The response, volume, and texture are so good, you forget that good bass was, a year or two ago, just a prominent thump,thump, boom! The bass is a real part of the music with these cans, so other than feeling like I have a "perfect subwoofer" playing, the response is even and not really under or over-stated. It will depend mainly on the recording.

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So the door gets knocked on and I spring out of bed to collect what I think is HE400s and open freaking headlamps for my dad... POOP! It seemed like the right size and everything. Buzzkill of the day. 

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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

By the way, which one is the wrong and which one is the right?

 

I found this one on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSE-Digital-Optical-Coaxial-to-Analog-RCA-Audio-Converter-DAC-24Bit-192Khz-B-/181040547271?pt=US_Home_Audio_Amplifiers_Preamps&hash=item2a26db85c7

 

Is this one you're talking about?

 

Actually, this is the one I'm getting - should be on Wednesday.  http://www.amazon.com/Converter-Decoder-PCM2704-Black-Cable/dp/B008YD36J2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357577597&sr=8-1&keywords=muse+dac

 

The differences seem to be that the one you linked, would require a separate power adapter.  I've read where people have had to go out any buy one to use the DAC.  On the DAC that I provided a link for, it appears to have a slightly smaller footprint, and doesn't appear to have a need for a power plug, but most likely, just gets its power from the USB input.

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So I decided since they didn't deliver them to my door I'll go check the mailbox, I drove to the mailbox and what do you know. Never been so happy to see the key for the big box, YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH, finally. Impressions to follow. SOOOOO happy. Thanks for listing price lower too so there was no duty. Great business Justin! Come on Canada post, if you can bring cheap ebay headlamps from China to my door you might as well bring the headphones too rolleyes.gif

 

EDIT: These are pretty great guys, I think they will fill the void for a while. They just sound incredible, really good buy for the price. I'll try to make a more detailed review later. 


Edited by YGuyG - 1/7/13 at 9:32am
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Thread Starter 

^^ Nice!! Congrats and welcome to the club...enjoy. 

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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post

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Originally Posted by Habu View Post

Yes, bass is more neutral than my Denon D5000 was. But if you listen some bass heavy songs then HE-400 will deliver :P I enjoy HE-400 bass a lot more than Denon's. (Maybe im getting old smily_headphones1.gif)

Bass quantity: D2000/D5000 > HE-400
Bass quality: HE-400 >>> D2000/D5000
The HE-400s sounded "bass light" to me when I first listened also.

With an amp, the response seemed to improve (though my ears had adjusted a good deal by then).

I went back to my old headphones seeking to find if the amp somehow helped them - nope. The old headphones, btw, despite a more aggressive bass curve, actually seemed "bass light" to me and, worse, lacking some extension which I had gotten used to hearing on some tracks.

Conclusion - the HE 400 are NOT a bass head's can. But for me to say that the bass isn't more than ample at times would be a lie. The response, volume, and texture are so good, you forget that good bass was, a year or two ago, just a prominent thump,thump, boom! The bass is a real part of the music with these cans, so other than feeling like I have a "perfect subwoofer" playing, the response is even and not really under or over-stated. It will depend mainly on the recording.

I agree with exactly what you said.It just took me a bit of getting used to it after having my Denon's so long. After I read some of the comments, I just thought the bass would be a bit more pronounced. But you are right, of the material has it, the 400's can deliver it.
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View PostThe response, volume, and texture are so good, you forget that good bass was, a year or two ago, just a prominent thump,thump, boom! The bass is a real part of the music with these cans, so other than feeling like I have a "perfect subwoofer" playing, the response is even and not really under or over-stated. It will depend mainly on the recording.

 

Be careful with that amazing texture :) - the bass is perfectly controlled and deep but comparing to he5le there is no texture at all and thats why I have sent them back to my dealer

 

he5le are in completely different league - details and depth are also dramatically better, in other aspects he400 are great, really, like perfectly pimped hd650 on steroids but nothing like hd600 for me

post #4390 of 18152
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Originally Posted by sbtruitt View Post

I agree with exactly what you said.It just took me a bit of getting used to it after having my Denon's so long. After I read some of the comments, I just thought the bass would be a bit more pronounced. But you are right, of the material has it, the 400's can deliver it.

Basically how I felt when I first got them. I was so used to the D7000's majestic rumble that as much as I loved the HE-400's sound, I wanted just a bit more bass presence. Fast forward to today, and I'm so used to the HE-400, that any more bass would bother me and seem bloated. That's the price of adjusting to a headphone's sound.
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Actually, this is the one I'm getting - should be on Wednesday.  http://www.amazon.com/Converter-Decoder-PCM2704-Black-Cable/dp/B008YD36J2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357577597&sr=8-1&keywords=muse+dac

 

The differences seem to be that the one you linked, would require a separate power adapter.  I've read where people have had to go out any buy one to use the DAC.  On the DAC that I provided a link for, it appears to have a slightly smaller footprint, and doesn't appear to have a need for a power plug, but most likely, just gets its power from the USB input.


But does it have an optical input?

 

I need the SPDIF input, as i stated before.

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Originally Posted by sbtruitt View Post

I agree with exactly what you said.It just took me a bit of getting used to it after having my Denon's so long. After I read some of the comments, I just thought the bass would be a bit more pronounced. But you are right, of the material has it, the 400's can deliver it.

Basically how I felt when I first got them. I was so used to the D7000's majestic rumble that as much as I loved the HE-400's sound, I wanted just a bit more bass presence. Fast forward to today, and I'm so used to the HE-400, that any more bass would bother me and seem bloated. That's the price of adjusting to a headphone's sound.

Yeah, your right. The more I listen, the more I like it.
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Okamoto, You'll want a Fiio D03K if you want a SPDIF to Analog converter. The USB on the Fiio is for power only.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/7/13 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post


But does it have an optical input?

 

I need the SPDIF input, as i stated before.

 

Yes, it has an optical input.

post #4395 of 18152
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Basically how I felt when I first got them. I was so used to the D7000's majestic rumble that as much as I loved the HE-400's sound, I wanted just a bit more bass presence. Fast forward to today, and I'm so used to the HE-400, that any more bass would bother me and seem bloated. That's the price of adjusting to a headphone's sound.

Could not agree more wink.gif Although with E17 its so easy to boost that bass +2-4db for more rumble. One thing I also like compared to denons that bass is more punchy.
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