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post #4141 of 17700

Interested in a comparison with the HE-5LE ;)

post #4142 of 17700

comparing to perfectly driven hd600 (driven by wa6 sophia+pdps+6fd7 / zana deux / rudistor rpx-33 ev-08, sources: arcam alpha 9 dcs ring dac / electrocompaniet ecd-1 / sony sacd xa5400es / icon hdp dac which are best combinations I have heard with hd600 regarding the price IMO) he400 on neutral and fast sony d-25 there is outstanding clarity, vocals are extremely smooth although slightly laid back IMO, no even small hint of sibilance which is really appreciated)

 

from what I recall comparing to he5le I find he400 too polite and smooth :) he5le was a raw power, brutality and neutrality, faster with more precision but there is definately great fun to listen to he400, need more time to listen to, these are first 2 hours and first 2 CDs

 

I guess neutral, fast, high resolution source is best match for he400

 

I am really starting to like these headphones, especially with warm sounding jazz recordings like pat metheny & anna maria jopek album - simply amazing, he400 just got the proper temperature because right out of the box they were pretty cold :D there is -2 C today in Poland, maybe it's my brain burn-in or temperature change shifted tonal balance a bit in a great direction


Edited by magicman - 1/4/13 at 9:27am
post #4143 of 17700

I've temporarily moved my my listening rig to a different room where I have more privacy which allows me to turn the knob up a little more. Let me just say that these headphones open up a lot more with volume. Far more enjoyable listening experience :) Im going to need to find a way to make this temporary arrangement permanent. 

post #4144 of 17700
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

I've temporarily moved my my listening rig to a different room where I have more privacy which allows me to turn the knob up a little more. Let me just say that these headphones open up a lot more with volume. Far more enjoyable listening experience :) Im going to need to find a way to make this temporary arrangement permanent. 

Agreed, and the sound signature allows for them to be played at quite loud volumes without being at all piercing.

 

While they still sound great at lower volumes, I feel like there is a point on the volume knob where they start to truly shine at. Maybe it's right around where ambient noise gets drowned out at given how open these things are.

post #4145 of 17700

There is also ef5 as a missing link here, this is very specific amplifier what I have heard and it might be responsible for the previous impressions

 

It was made especially for the whole hifiman serie and I have strong feeling that these guys know what they are doing

post #4146 of 17700

Except the HE-6.  The EF-6 was made for that..   Just saying..

post #4147 of 17700

Sure thing

 

But I read that despite underpowering he6 there is pretty nice tonality

post #4148 of 17700

I got my HE-400s in from HeadAmp yesterday. Nice! Still breaking them in and doing some comparisons, and will post my impressions maybe tomorrow. I also want to try the velours for a while as well.

 

But my first reaction was about their weight and comfort. I've got a relatively smaller head, and these were definitely less comfortable than either my Denon's or my Grado's, especially on how they sat on my head.

 

One thing did help alot - I had an extra headband I got for my Grado's that I didnt use and with a little stretching, they are working great. The extra padding is just what I needed. They just snap on around the existing one. I got them off of Amazon for about $13: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00862522A/ref=oh_details_o09_s03_i01

 

700


Edited by sbtruitt - 1/4/13 at 7:57am
post #4149 of 17700
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Originally Posted by sbtruitt View Post

I got my HE-400s in from HeadAmp yesterday. Nice! Still breaking them in and doing some comparisons, and will post my impressions maybe tomorrow. I also want to try the velours for a while as well.

 

But my first reaction was about their weight and comfort. I've got a relatively smaller head, and these were definitely less comfortable than either my Denon's or my Grado's, especially on how they sat on my head.

 

One thing did help alot - I had an extra headband I got for my Grado's that I didnt use and with a little stretching, they are working great. The extra padding is just what I needed. They just snap on around the existing one. I got them off of Amazon for about $13: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00862522A/ref=oh_details_o09_s03_i01

 

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I know exactly what you mean - I have my headband in the position I can't go down anymore and this is just perfect fit, a few milimeters higher would make them unusable for me

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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

Agreed, and the sound signature allows for them to be played at quite loud volumes without being at all piercing.

 

While they still sound great at lower volumes, I feel like there is a point on the volume knob where they start to truly shine at. Maybe it's right around where ambient noise gets drowned out at given how open these things are.

For me there is always a volume sweet spot where music comes to life, brings out amazing emotions and goosebumps. Going below this point doesn't make sense to listen to any music.

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Originally Posted by sbtruitt View Post

I got my HE-400s in from HeadAmp yesterday. Nice! Still breaking them in and doing some comparisons, and will post my impressions maybe tomorrow. I also want to try the velours for a while as well.

 

But my first reaction was about their weight and comfort. I've got a relatively smaller head, and these were definitely less comfortable than either my Denon's or my Grado's, especially on how they sat on my head.

 

One thing did help alot - I had an extra headband I got for my Grado's that I didnt use and with a little stretching, they are working great. The extra padding is just what I needed. They just snap on around the existing one. I got them off of Amazon for about $13: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00862522A/ref=oh_details_o09_s03_i01

 

700

I find that this headband pad fits my head more, if it is only secured by the two buttons at the very ends, and all the other buttons are left undone.

post #4152 of 17700
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Originally Posted by chewy4 View Post

Agreed, and the sound signature allows for them to be played at quite loud volumes without being at all piercing.

 

While they still sound great at lower volumes, I feel like there is a point on the volume knob where they start to truly shine at. Maybe it's right around where ambient noise gets drowned out at given how open these things are.

 

A lot of people mention the treble peak and how it can sound piercing, but honestly I'm yet to experience any fatigue at all. Even now that I can raise the volume further without disturbing anyone, Im not hearing any uneven treble.

post #4153 of 17700

Damn, they are good with jazz and female vocals, with genres like atb (trilogy album) soundstage layering ability is quite similar to nicely driven hd650 (actually they are first headphones which came to my mind that sound very close to them but with better bass control and resolution, piano sounds darker exactly like on hd650 thus better impact for lower octaves but there are lost higher harmonics which are perfectly heard on hd600 and that was the thing I could not live with hd650), great plans separation and imaging but now I am starting to realize what is missed comparing to he5le ...

 

It's a bit too early but I think transients, texturing  and details of he5le are something what gives that unbelievable sense of realism and put them in completely different league (although sometimes a bit treble for my liking, but much more information in this area too) when we talk about headphones but of course it's just my own, subjective, personal opinion

 

edit: for sure he400 are killers for rnb, rap, drum n bass, hip-hop

 

for instance on something like erykah badu - baduism they simply wipe the floor with hd600/650 and I guess with many other headphones


Edited by magicman - 1/4/13 at 9:49am
post #4154 of 17700

:-) - when I first put them on, I could only get the end two snapped anyway, but today, I tried again and they had stretched so I could snap them all. Either way the extra padding is mandatory if I am going to enjoy these guys long term.

post #4155 of 17700
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

A lot of people mention the treble peak and how it can sound piercing, but honestly I'm yet to experience any fatigue at all. Even now that I can raise the volume further without disturbing anyone, Im not hearing any uneven treble.

There is very little treble peak with the M-stage, it is a warm amp. With a more neutral amp there is a bit of harsh treble.

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