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post #4036 of 20019
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Originally Posted by merkil View Post

 

Thank you for showing me this. Just listened to the album because of the sample you posted. Really good, I love the lounge feel on some of the tracks. 

 

My pleasure, the album really something. My personal favourite would have to be track 6 'Mr Handogate'.

post #4037 of 20019
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Originally Posted by magicman View Post


It might be because he4 have velour pads by default and he400 leather pads - maybe when you would try he400 with velour ones it would be a game changer ? Just guessing ...

 

 

I use all sorts of pads.  The pads don't make or break a headphone for me.  The HE-400s a game changer?  A good headphone, but not a game changer..biggrin.gif

post #4038 of 20019

Does anyone think the velour pads make the HE400s sound more sibilant and less bodied? I think I'll be selling my velours as I prefer the sound with pleather pads.

post #4039 of 20019

Don't know about the HE-400, but that was similar to my impression with the velours on the HE-500.

post #4040 of 20019
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

I use all sorts of pads.  The pads don't make or break a headphone for me.  The HE-400s a game changer?  A good headphone, but not a game changer..biggrin.gif


Good to know that pads don't change the distance between he4 and he400 - I am going to order he4 and lyr (I will try it free and see the synergy, I can send lyr back up to 10 days), I would love emotiva a-100 but buying overseas takes too much time and extra cost (customs, sale tax, shipping, issues with warranty etc)

post #4041 of 20019

I think my ears somehow recovered.

 

I had another listen with the HE-4 yesterday and found them a bit too bright to my taste, pretty much as I remembered them before I got the replacement unit.

I think the cold I had last week changed my perception (of treble mainly) and made the 4s a perfect match.

 

If you like bright sound, these should definitely be on your wishlist. From memory, their sound signature is pretty much like the DT-880, with much more energy at both ends and with the planar magic that won't make these sound "acid" like the DT-880.

 

I'm not sure I will keep these, especially if the NFB-27 replaces the SA-31.

post #4042 of 20019
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Originally Posted by JSitthi View Post

Does anyone think the velour pads make the HE400s sound more sibilant and less bodied? I think I'll be selling my velours as I prefer the sound with pleather pads.

I don't think so. The velours add mids and clarity to my ears, what you are hearing isn't added sibilance. It's just sibilance that was already there on the recording.

post #4043 of 20019
I wouldnt say the HE-4 has much more energy in the treble than the DT880. Similar, if anything. But yes, its brighter than the HE400 by a noticeable amount. Still, the treble is less abrupt than that of the HE400...
post #4044 of 20019
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

I think my ears somehow recovered.

 

I had another listen with the HE-4 yesterday and found them a bit too bright to my taste, pretty much as I remembered them before I got the replacement unit.

I think the cold I had last week changed my perception (of treble mainly) and made the 4s a perfect match.

 

If you like bright sound, these should definitely be on your wishlist. From memory, their sound signature is pretty much like the DT-880, with much more energy at both ends and with the planar magic that won't make these sound "acid" like the DT-880.

 

I'm not sure I will keep these, especially if the NFB-27 replaces the SA-31.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I wouldnt say the HE-4 has much more energy in the treble than the DT880. Similar, if anything. But yes, its brighter than the HE400 by a noticeable amount. Still, the treble is less abrupt than that of the HE400...

 

 

Ha ha ha - yeah, this sig may be a drastic change for some coming straight of the 400s or even A/Bing with the 400s.  But it's not the treble thats bright.  It's just a airy headphone with lots of air.  Now the T70s are bright. whew.  The DT880s are bright for some.  The 4s has a airy presentation with smooth treble tilted upwards a tad bit..  No etch and not harsh at all.  

 

This is IMO..


Edited by preproman - 1/2/13 at 4:52am
post #4045 of 20019
I think it's probably that people may misunderstand more bright as being the same as having sharper/more pronounced treble.
post #4046 of 20019
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I think it's probably that people may misunderstand more bright as being the same as having sharper/more pronounced treble.

 

 

Spot on.  Not the same thing at all..  As soon as you say the word "bright"  All Hell breaks loose.  That's why I use the word airy - it's less scary - if you know what I mean..biggrin.gif

post #4047 of 20019
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I think it's probably that people may misunderstand more bright as being the same as having sharper/more pronounced treble.

 

Yep, the HE-4 never sounded harsh to my ears. The K-601 do (on the same setup) to the point I cannot not listen to them more than 5 minutes before fatigue comes.

I once used to own the K-701 which is even brighter than the 601s (the reason why I kept them over the 701s).

 

So don't worry about HE-4. They have treble energy but a very good one, much less fatiguing than the aforementioned cans (+ DT-880).

In addition, they probably have the tightest bass I heard so far, yet with less quantity than both the 400s and the 500s (which to my ears are pretty much the same in that regard).

 

Basically, they are a the best upgrade for K-701 or DT-880 owners.

post #4048 of 20019

newbie here, looking for advice. just starting out, i have nothing.  i have a budget of about $1,000. looking for headphones, MP3 player, amplifier and DAC. thinking about getting the HiFiMan HE-400's Headphones ($399) and the HiFiMan HM-602 Portable Music Player ($399) with built in amp & dac. any thoughts ?

post #4049 of 20019
Thread Starter 
I'd take an iPod and e17 with lod over the player that you mention. Great choice on the HP!!
post #4050 of 20019
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Originally Posted by papazoid View Post

newbie here, looking for advice. just starting out, i have nothing.  i have a budget of about $1,000. looking for headphones, MP3 player, amplifier and DAC. thinking about getting the HiFiMan HE-400's Headphones ($399) and the HiFiMan HM-602 Portable Music Player ($399) with built in amp & dac. any thoughts ?

I think the HM-602 is exactly what they say it is, a Portable Music Player. I wouldn't recommend using the HE-400 on the go, it's really not ideal. I suggest you spend the your money on a good desktop setup. 

 

Actually, listen to Matt, he's more experienced.


Edited by Sniping - 1/2/13 at 8:10am
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