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post #3976 of 17959
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

One thought that has occurred to me now that I'm close to buying - these are suited for big heads, yes? I have a large head, and something like the V-Moda M-80 barely fit me and was uncomfortable. To contrast, the Sennheiser HD595, Creative Aurvana Live! Audio Technica AD700, Koss ProDJ 200 headphones are all some of the full-size pairs that fit me very well. Will I have any issues here?

 

Also - anybody here primarily listen to folk and bluegrass? I did some searching of the thread, but it was hard to sift through so many people saying "folks" to address ya'll instead of actually talking about the genre. I've already decided on the HE-400 sound signature-wise for multiple other reasons, would just love to know how they sound with those genres. Larry and His Flask, Old Crow Medicine Show, River City Extension - bands like that.

I think the HE-400 will even fit a giant's head. The cups extend pretty riciculously far.

 

Also the HE-400 sounds pretty awesome with any type of music, but I can check how they sound with a particular folk song you have in mind?

post #3977 of 17959

If you do have the velour pads guys, just try them with the pleather on top of them (or vice versa) and increase the volume, it really makes the HE-400 sound much better to me, I know I already said this but it shows how much of an improvement bigger pads would be! 

 

Also, I wish you all a happy new year!

post #3978 of 17959
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

I think the HE-400 will even fit a giant's head. The cups extend pretty riciculously far.

 

Also the HE-400 sounds pretty awesome with any type of music, but I can check how they sound with a particular folk song you have in mind?

Well I wouldn't know where to start, and I'm assuming you'd go to YouTube for that and as we all know, crap in, crap out ...

post #3979 of 17959
Thread Starter 

Happy New Year everyone. Thanks to all those who contributed to a great thread!! I wish everyone the very best in 2013 and more time to enjoy great hp's. biggrin.gif

 

Peace....

 

Matt

post #3980 of 17959

Yup, happy new year to all the awesome HE-400 owners :D

post #3981 of 17959
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Edited by sbtruitt - 1/1/13 at 10:05pm
post #3982 of 17959

To answer questions to my previous post on this thread...

 

I am using my HE-400's with [Computer (MOG) > fiio e17 > HE-400s]

They sound great using this set up, but I'm sure there is even more potential.

 

And I came up with 9.4 / 10 based on my subjective view on the HE-400's sound.  They are definitely a 9, but not quite a 9.5.

 

And there is only one artist who I do not quite enjoy on the HE-400's without EQ'ing the treble down... and that is Jay-Z, his vocals on some of the older recordings are very harsh in my opinion.

 

Once again, great investment.

post #3983 of 17959

Hey guys, I'm new here even though I've been lurking for years. I recently purchased the HE-400's from Justin @ Head-Amp and have now had a few days to get used to them.I absolutely LOVE them. I came from Shure SRH440's, so the step up was pretty drastic. I spent months reading threads here on headphones under $500 and finally settled on the HiFiMan's, and I'm extremely glad I did. My biggest contender was the HD600, which I plan to buy later anyway. 

 

The one thing I noticed right away was that despite what others have said, I don't believe these are an ideal purchase if you don't plan on amplifying them. I first ran mine on my iPod and felt a bit uneasy because it was nothing like I had expected. The volume struggled tremendously, so I plugged up my E11 and experienced a whole different set of headphones. They really started to feel like I had purchased worthy phones. It wasn't until later that night when I randomly decided to plug them in to my Pioneer receiver and turn on Pandora that I experienced what these cans can actually do. They awoke like a sleeping giant. They were no longer docile with my ears and screamed with perfection (to me) no matter how high I cranked them. I think I finally settled on 58-60 on my knob as the ideal listening level, despite them still sounding awesome at 70.

 

So while I'm just a beginner in this very complex world of audio equipment and my judgement should be taken with a grain of salt, I just wanted to clear that up from a beginners viewpoint. These are AWESOME headphones for the price, but you should plan to amplify them!  The upside is that it's apparent that you don't have to spend a thousand dollars on an amp/dac setup to really push these -- which is great.

 

I plan on ordering the Magni/Modi next. After hearing these on my receiver, I can no longer settle with my soundcard + E11 :P

 

PS. For anyone who hasn't ordered yet, Justin @ Head-Amp was awesome to buy from. He shipped my headphones out the same day, and had them at my door 3 days later. His price was great too (free s&h and free velour pads)

post #3984 of 17959
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Anyone know the curb weight on the he4?

 

I just got the HE-4 in stock, and weighed them along with several other top headphones.  All of these weights are in grams, and without the cable.

 

Sony Qualia (size small) 217
Sennheiser HD800 373
HiFiMAN HE-4 (Velour) 402
Stax SR-009 447
HiFiMAN HE-400 (Pleather) 480
Audeze LCD-3 541
HiFiMAN HE-500 (Velour) 548
HiFiMAN HE-6 (Velour) 552

 

Note: the above weights for all headphones includes the pads.

 

HiFiMAN Velour pair - 34g

HiFiMAN Pleather pair - 37g

 


Edited by justin w. - 1/1/13 at 3:51am

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post #3985 of 17959

These are interesting results Justin. Looks like some of the figures floating around this forum are incorrect then. It's been mentioned on this thread that the HE400 was 440g and the HE500 500g. 

post #3986 of 17959
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

These are interesting results Justin. Looks like some of the figures floating around this forum are incorrect then. It's been mentioned on this thread that the HE400 was 440g and the HE500 500g. 

 

please see my updated post above

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post #3987 of 17959
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

 

I just got the HE-4 in stock, and weighed them along with several other top headphones.  All of these weights are in grams, and without the cable.

 

Sony Qualia 217
Sennheiser HD800 373
HiFiMAN HE-4 402
Stax SR-009 447
HiFiMAN HE-400 480
Audeze LCD-3 541
HiFiMAN HE-500 548
HiFiMAN HE-6 552

 

 


Wow, the weight would probably deter me from buying... I was just think I'd get a HE-500 or similar if I was to upgrade in the "distant" future.

 

My HM5 with quite a bit of dynamat inside only weights 310g with the cable.


Edited by kingpage - 1/1/13 at 3:56am
post #3988 of 17959
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Originally Posted by kingpage View Post


Wow, the weight would probably deters me from buying... I was just think I'd get a HE-500 or similar if I was to upgrade in the "distant" future.

 

My HM5 with quite a bit of dynamat inside only weights 310g with the cable.

 

the design of them prevents the weight from being fatiguing, in my opinion.  i will put a couple more headphones into the mix 

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post #3989 of 17959
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bewsii View Post

Hey guys, I'm new here even though I've been lurking for years. I recently purchased the HE-400's from Justin @ Head-Amp and have now had a few days to get used to them.I absolutely LOVE them. I came from Shure SRH440's, so the step up was pretty drastic. I spent months reading threads here on headphones under $500 and finally settled on the HiFiMan's, and I'm extremely glad I did. My biggest contender was the HD600, which I plan to buy later anyway. 

 

The one thing I noticed right away was that despite what others have said, I don't believe these are an ideal purchase if you don't plan on amplifying them. I first ran mine on my iPod and felt a bit uneasy because it was nothing like I had expected. The volume struggled tremendously, so I plugged up my E11 and experienced a whole different set of headphones. They really started to feel like I had purchased worthy phones. It wasn't until later that night when I randomly decided to plug them in to my Pioneer receiver and turn on Pandora that I experienced what these cans can actually do. They awoke like a sleeping giant. They were no longer docile with my ears and screamed with perfection (to me) no matter how high I cranked them. I think I finally settled on 58-60 on my knob as the ideal listening level, despite them still sounding awesome at 70.

 

So while I'm just a beginner in this very complex world of audio equipment and my judgement should be taken with a grain of salt, I just wanted to clear that up from a beginners viewpoint. These are AWESOME headphones for the price, but you should plan to amplify them!  The upside is that it's apparent that you don't have to spend a thousand dollars on an amp/dac setup to really push these -- which is great.

 

I plan on ordering the Magni/Modi next. After hearing these on my receiver, I can no longer settle with my soundcard + E11 :P

 

PS. For anyone who hasn't ordered yet, Justin @ Head-Amp was awesome to buy from. He shipped my headphones out the same day, and had them at my door 3 days later. His price was great too (free s&h and free velour pads)

 

Welcome to the club!! And yes, as is mentioned often in this thread while you can amp the he400 on almost nothing, you'll need a decent amp to get the best of them. A good starting place with the he400 is a fiio e17 and going all the up to the Schitt lyr. You'll spend A LOT more money to get a modest amount of improvement but hey...I'm preaching to the choir here. 

 

I'm planning on going back and adding some of the important facts and discoveries to the original post to help those just getting started. 

 

Matt

post #3990 of 17959
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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

 

the design of them prevents the weight from being fatiguing, in my opinion.  i will put a couple more headphones into the mix 

 

I know you probably don't have the HE-5LEs in stock, but I would guess they would be somewhere in between the the HE-500s and the HE-6.  Just guessing.. 

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