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Originally Posted by wje View Post

BTW, what's with the uber-high resale prices on the HE-400 in the F/S forum? 

 

Hell, what's with the uber-high resales at all on the HE-400?    These phones are starting to become a little polarizing with the users here. 

post #3932 of 17712
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I read this thread obsessively, every single day, several times a day. I want these so bad, I just need to sell my UE 900 before I can get them. Auuuuugh. At this rate, I'll be buying the Magni + Modi before I even get the HE-400

Hah, so I posted a new classified and I've already got a deal done, money in my PayPal and everything!

 

Woooh! HE-400 gonna be coming my way soon!

post #3933 of 17712
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Can't wait for my Schiit M&M stack to come. ATM i'm only using my computer as a source, no amp or anything. Will the change be "drastic"?

Since everyone has their own idea of "drastic", I wouldn't know for sure but I'm betting you'll see obvious improvements right away.

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^^ You have an amp already or no?

Nope. Straight into a desktop with no sound card.

post #3935 of 17712
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Originally Posted by DarthUnnamed View Post

Nope. Straight into a desktop with no sound card.


The M&M, though I don't own the combo, is likely going to sound quite a bit better than your computer. Note, not "night and day" different, but certainly should make a strong impression on you. If your current on-board sound solution is utter crap, than you can expect a big difference. Its just hard to guess if you will like the change or not, since I find a lot of equipment grows on me more than it impresses me on first listen.

 

Having recently abandoned my very-good on board audio for the O2/ODAC stack, I can say that the amplifier was the most important step up for the HE-400s. I just wanted more volume and now I have the power I need. The ODAC was not a very big improvement by comparison, since I felt the on-board had a very nice sound to it and was not rolled off or otherwise "colored" to my ears. But, the combo does give me a totally black noise floor, meaning there is no way I will every hear hiss again (unless it is in the recording). My on board sound was a bit more prone to hiccups / signal interference, depending on what I was doing, and there was definitely noise, though it was inaudible under normal listening conditions.

 

The combo does way less for my older HD 595s, which did not seem much improved by the extra power or resolution! Sooner or later I'll try my old 16 ohm sony IEMs to see if they love the lack of noise or not. In short, I am sure the amp will make a strong impression on you since the HE-400s scaled for me with a better power source. But don't count on a night and day improvement.

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Then yes you'll see a pretty significant improvement. They are efficient but come on...they are planar HP's!!
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I think I prefer pleather to velour for sound and comfort too (in the minority)

 

put the spacers back in pleather too cause it was a little hard against my ear probably from being just up against the driver.

 

The pleather seems more fun to me though and smooth.

post #3938 of 17712
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

I have a Fiio E17 and a Little Dot MKIII amp with a Muse DA20 DAC. I have enough to power it, but I want the M&M, and even if I didn't get them, that's only $200 out of the $400 I need for the HE-400. I hope to get $350 out of the UE-900 to get me most of the way there.


I'm feeling the same way, I've been using the AKG K550 powered by an E17 for the past few months and I'm really struggling to figure out how I'll be able to come up with funds to switch them for the HE-400.  The AKGs are nice, but the drivers rub against my massive ears and don't quite sit on my small head that well.

post #3939 of 17712
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Hah, so I posted a new classified and I've already got a deal done, money in my PayPal and everything!

 

Woooh! HE-400 gonna be coming my way soon!

 

Hopefully, you didn't pay too much.  Getting warranty service on a 2nd hand pair is a bit pricey, at $75 - $85.  I've been there, done that.

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BTW, what's with the uber-high resale prices on the HE-400 in the F/S forum?  I'm posting here, because I don't want to thread crap in a person's thread about their pricing.  However, $375 - $380 for a used pair is really nuts. I do realize shipping is included in those prices, but still ... The warranty doesn't transfer to a 2nd owner, so if the 2nd owner has troubles, then they will be out $75.00 - $85.00 to HifiMAN in order to get the headphones replaced.  I say just spend the $20.00 extra and get a new pair and have the confidence of a warranty behind you for a year.  Or, check out the returned HE-400s from headphone.com where they sell for about $339.00 and you still get the warranty.

 

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i'm not selling my HE-400s.  Never.  However, if I were to ever sell them, I would say that $350.00 would be a more realistic price, with both types of pads included, as well as shipping costs.

 

OK, that's the last beef I'll have in 2012.  That is, unless something gets under my crawl tomorrow, which is December 31st, 2012.  tongue_smile.gif


I've been saying this to myself for the past 3 days. 

post #3941 of 17712
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Hopefully, you didn't pay too much.  Getting warranty service on a 2nd hand pair is a bit pricey, at $75 - $85.  I've been there, done that.

Wait, I think he's just saying he sold his old pair so now he can get the HE-400s. If I read correctly, I don't think he ordered the HE-400 yet.

 

But @ninjames, you should buy new if you haven't bought already.

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Originally Posted by wje View Post

 

Hopefully, you didn't pay too much.  Getting warranty service on a 2nd hand pair is a bit pricey, at $75 - $85.  I've been there, done that.

No I mean I sold my UE 900 so now I can buy the HE-400 new!

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I've been saying this to myself for the past 3 days. 

Well if used HE400s are consistently being sold at $370-$380 then there is no reason for anyone selling HE400s to set the prices lower. It's all about supply and demand.

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My pair of HE-400's came in yesterday!  Listened to them all night, and a lot more today.

 

Very, very impressed.  And I haven't had a chance to burn them in yet.  I'm extremely happy with my decision to purchase them.

 

Build: 8 / 10

 

Comfort: 7 / 10

 

Sound: 9.4 / 10

 

Value: 9.8 / 10

 

I think I'm going to give them a listen right now...

post #3945 of 17712
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Originally Posted by ninjames View Post

No I mean I sold my UE 900 so now I can buy the HE-400 new!

 

Great!  Good to hear.

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Well if used HE400s are consistently being sold at $370-$380 then there is no reason for anyone selling HE400s to set the prices lower. It's all about supply and demand.

 

You are correct regarding supply and demand.  However, when there is still a supply of new headphones for $400 and HifiMAN is able to keep up with the demand, then I don't believe that there is a justification for the said prices.  If HifiMAN had paused production, or stopped making the HE-400s, then I could see this happening.  I'd compare that situation to what we're seeing with the Denon "D" series of headphones.  The D2000 was down about $200 during its heyday, but now, they're selling for closer to $300, because Denon has new models out, and the other (and, perceived better) "D" series is still in demand.

 

Edit: What we're also seeing when the headphones are selling for those prices, they are priced at the point where one would have been able to return them within the return window.  Granted, the shipping costs to get them returned would take some funds, too. 

 

Now, this reminds me of the situations that typically come up in February of each year.  The Chinese New Year!  During a number of weeks, production in China shuts down as they celebrate the New Year.  So, items being sold are limited to stock on hand, and when they return to work, it takes a bit of time to ramp up.  The Chinese New Year for 2013 begins on February 10th. So, if anyone is on the fence regarding a HifiMAN purchase, then they should move on it in the next month, or one might face delays in getting their product, unless they locate their headphones from a vendor that has them in stock.

 

enjoy!


Edited by wje - 12/30/12 at 10:50pm
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