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post #2941 of 20638
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^^ What you may want is the lcd2??

post #2942 of 20638
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^^ What you may want is the lcd2??

Really? lols i never heard anything over $1000 except for the HD 800.

Audeze LCD-2 would need a hell of an amp, and if i bought one, i would be too broke to buy or build a balanced Beta 22 w/ 2x Sigma 22's
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I've listened to the lcd2 at length. It needs a good amp, not really a "helluva" amp. I listened to it with an e09k/odac and lyr/bifrost. Of course it sounded best on the lyr but the e09 did a very decent job at a fraction of the cost. 

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I've listened to the lcd2 at length. It needs a good amp, not really a "helluva" amp. I listened to it with an e09k/odac and lyr/bifrost. Of course it sounded best on the lyr but the e09 did a very decent job at a fraction of the cost. 

My HDP might do okay too, but no point in buying expensive headphones if the amp is a major bottleneck :[

I'll stick to the HE-400 for awhile until i can have a full grasp on what i want in a headphone.

It's at top of my list so far though, great recommendation!
post #2945 of 20638
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It's the most addictive sound signature that I've heard period. I have not heard the lcd3 is actually way better still. eek.gif

 

I'd have sold everything to own the lcd2 but it was ultimately just too heavy for me. frown.gif

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It's the most addictive sound signature that I've heard period. I have not heard the lcd3 is actually way better still. eek.gif

I'd have sold everything to own the lcd2 but it was ultimately just too heavy for me. frown.gif

Heavy as in grams?
It's heavier than the HE-500?
post #2947 of 20638
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That's because I have the hands of a skilled surgeon. 

 

I'd keep the 650 or buy some Maddogs if you want something that is truly complementary. 

 

Then, why are you hanging around the gutter with the rest of us? tongue.gif

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Heavy as in grams?
It's heavier than the HE-500?

 

HE-500 is 502 g

LCD2 is 550 g

HE-400 is 440 g

post #2949 of 20638
110g... if I was at home, I'd put up the image of the dog and guy with scared looks on their faces.

That is a lot of heft than I'd like.
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110g... if I was at home, I'd put up the image of the dog and guy with scared looks on their faces.
That is a lot of heft than I'd like.

Yeah... the HE-400 is pretty heavy as of now. I compared the weight with my other headphones.

It weighs more than AKG Q701 + Sennheiser HD-650 lol.

I'm scared of the LCD-2 now.
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Yeah... the HE-400 is pretty heavy as of now. I compared the weight with my other headphones.
It weighs more than AKG Q701 + Sennheiser HD-650 lol.
I'm scared of the LCD-2 now.

 

It's funny how perspective works. Before I got the HE500s, my HE400s always felt really heavy, but now it feels light as a feather since I'm starting to adjust to HE500's weight.

post #2952 of 20638
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HE-500 is 502 g

LCD2 is 550 g

HE-400 is 440 g

 

That is actually not completely true. The Rosewood LCD2 is 532 grams, however the Bamboo version if only 507 grams. So it's about 67 grams heavier than the HE-400 and about the same weight as the HE-500.

 

Justin from Headamp:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/574616/the-audeze-lcd-2-ortho-thread-new/3630#post_8924405


Edited by beaver316 - 12/12/12 at 1:18am
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It's funny how perspective works. Before I got the HE500s, my HE400s always felt really heavy, but now it feels light as a feather since I'm starting to adjust to HE500's weight.

 

If you're adjusting to the HE-500s, then the LCD2 may be fine for you. The clamp however may cause problems, although the LCD3 is much improved with the softer pads.

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If you're adjusting to the HE-500s, then the LCD2 may be fine for you. The clamp however may cause problems, although the LCD3 is much improved with the softer pads.

 

Eh I auditioned LCD2s and LCD3 at a meet and their adjustment freedoms do not produce a good fit on my head.

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Might buy the HE-500 to replace the HD 650 so the ratio would even out 50/50.
 

 

The ratio can well be 70/30 depending on your sound signature preference :D

 

I just got the HE-400 yesterday so it's a quick first impression with fews hours of burn-in. I did not feel the HE-400 bass was much better or prominent than that of the HE-500 (when properly driven).

What I did feel, however, is a recess in the mids, especially in the vocals range which make it sound more "heavy" . By comparison, the HE-500s do sound more open and fuller in this area. The 400s don't quite have the magic mids of the 500s.

The treble quantity is a bit more that adequate for me (I'm used to the smooth treble of the 500s), I hope it will tame up a bit with burn-in.

 

The interesting point, however, is that it does not require a powerfull headphone amp to show its true potential. I really (REALLY) enjoyed it on my Fostex HA-A3! The sound signature reminded me of that of the HE-500 when driven with the (slightly) warm SA-31 amp. 

 

For $800, this is a Killer combo!

 

I will still give it time to burn-in and try to adjust to the change in sound signature and give a proper feedback.

 

Note: the pleathers were replaced with velours, of course :D. The pads that came with it are a bit flabby, more so than the pleathers that came with my HE-500...


Edited by Clemmaster - 12/12/12 at 2:02am
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