- 204 Posts. Joined 11/2010
- Location: Columbus, OH
- Select All Posts By This User
Recent Images In This Thread
- productBeyer Dynamic DT 990 Premium 600 OHM Headphonestagged by nightmancometh, 8/19/13
- productFiiO E17tagged by nightmancometh, 8/19/13
- productHiFiMAN HE-400tagged by System, 10/31/12
- productHiFiMAN HE-500tagged by nightmancometh, 8/19/13
- productPanasonic RP-HTF600-S Step Monitortagged by nightmancometh, 8/19/13
Related Forum Threads
- Trying to decide: HE400, HE500, HD600 or HD650 + Fiio E17/Fiio E9K Last post on 12/9/13 at 4:35am in Introductions, Help and Recommendations
- HE-500 and FiiO E17 Last post on 1/26/14 at 1:34am in Headphones (full-size)
- Apple to Oranges HiFiMan HE-400, HiFiMan HE-500, or Denon AH-D600. What would you go with? Last post on 12/13/13 at 4:01pm in Headphones (full-size)
- Looking for a good $800~ budget setup. Last post on 2/11/14 at 7:47am in Headphones (full-size)
- Ultrasone Signature Pro vs Beyer T70p vs Beyer T5p for rock and metal? Last post on 11/6/12 at 6:35pm in Headphones (full-size)
2013 Head-Fi Summer Buying Guide (Over-Ear Headphones)
Last edited: 8/19/13
- 2013 Head-Fi Winter Gift Guide (Over-Ear Headphones)Last edited: 2/5/14
- 2013 Head-Fi Winter Gift Guide (Ultra-High-End Headphones (Summit-Fi))Last edited: 12/20/13
- 2013 Head-Fi Summer Buying Guide (Ultra-High-End Headphones...Last edited: 8/2/13
- 2012 Head-Fi Holiday Gift Guide (Summit-Fi)Last edited: 12/10/13
I purchased this on Amazon from a vendor that had a combined listing for the older model and newer E07 Andes. So I received the new model at the old model price and saved about $20. So that was...
These earphones are slightly overpriced compared to some competitive earphones. I think. I love the over-ear construction and the isolation is superb. The sound quality is impressive and...
Have had these for 3 months after losing a pair of Pioneer HDJ 500s. Preferred the look and build quality of the Pioneers, but the Sonys look ok and fold up nicely. The HDJ 500s didn't fold, but...
I think some of the reviews above have missed the real point of the i-20 for audiophiles, it provides an excellent spdif output from an iPod. Used with an external DAC the sound is excellent and...
Thanks to slwiser, Spidermeng and Woody469 for some of the pictures used in this video.
**Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread** - Page 195post #2911 of 1706312/10/12 at 6:26pmMy headphones arrived today but I think I'm waiting until Christmas to open them. This could be painful.
Gear mentioned in this thread:post #2912 of 1706312/10/12 at 6:31pmQuote:Originally Posted by kstuart
How about the Thiel part ?
From Stereophile review of the classic Thiel model:
Let's just say that Fang's experience of speakers is extremely limited, but his experience of headphones is not. Since he doesn't sell speakers, that's not a problem.
Also, many people's association of "American" as an adjective meaning "stupid and unsophisticated" has some small basis in reality, but it has absolutely no basis in the world of audio, particularly when you are talking professional and high-end equipment like JBL and Thiel.
It doesn't matter if the classic Thiel model is extremely neutral and by chance Fang said HE400s are tailored after Thiel FR (which he didn't, he just wanted to say HE400s would be tuned after his idea of how American brand speakers sounded in general), all that matters is he has a predisposed idea of what tonality he wanted to tune these headphones into, and did it. Whether that predisposed idea is somewhat true, very true, or completely false is irrelevant.
Another reason might be that since Hifiman already has a very neutral can (HE500), they had pressure to make a lower-end planar model distinguish itself, through colouration.post #2913 of 1706312/10/12 at 6:51pmpost #2914 of 1706312/10/12 at 6:58pmThread Starterpost #2915 of 1706312/10/12 at 7:47pmpost #2916 of 1706312/10/12 at 9:10pmI'm pretty sensitive to sharp treble, and he 400 could get a little hot but just on few tracks, nothing like my old audio technica w1000x.
It is the sound signature that make them so enjoyable !
The low end is near perfect
For custom duties just ask head direct to lower the price, mine came with a 10 $ value, so no duties. The boxes they are packed in look like the one you get in cheap headphones anyway.post #2917 of 1706312/11/12 at 5:34ampost #2918 of 1706312/11/12 at 6:08am
As soon as you start wearing them i'm sure she wont find it very exciting, wify will have lost a husband to albums for hours on end , and will be constantly badgered by you saying ooooh listen to this song , its way different !!! :P
Personally my other half loves it when i go into my man cave for listening , but only if i've done the dishes 1st :Ppost #2919 of 1706312/11/12 at 8:56am
I have to chime in, since I have a fair amount of experience with "American Sounds" (albeit typically made somewhere else these days). JBL, Harman, Infinity, Mark Levinson, etc. are all owned by the same group these days but if I had to guess what the key is to "American Sound", I would say, "loud" "proud" and on the bright side.
There has never been anything like what I call "recessed" in my JBL's midrange. What you notice more is a present but smooth treble, and a tight and understated bass. If anything, the midrange is airy and spacious, and probably better than 90% of other speakers I have heard. At massive volumes, they are very forward and lose some coherence. If the HE-400s didn't have such excellent low-end extension, they probably would be very close to JBL in terms of sound signature, in my opinion.
Anytime you go up the high end, I feel that it gets harder to really distinguish between speakers, because they are tending toward "flat" and "detailed" no matter the brand - since this arguably makes for a more consistent and excellent experience.
The HE-400's have an excellent midrange, slightly bright treble, and a "tight bass" which is beautifully textured and even toned. The word "dark" never comes to mind when I listen to my JBLs or to these. Dark are my old Senn HD 485s, which seem detailed until they are pushed a little, and then the dark "veil" keeps a lot of sound out of the equation.
For those of you that can't take the fatigue, I have two solutions. The first is, make sure you get the tilt and swivel of the cans right (Thanks Jerg). The second is, play with the EQ! The one I have currently settled on is below:
I just assume that others' measures of the phones are correct, and I attempt to smooth out the 1 khz bump, and then work the treble down from about 2.5khz to 10k. Since I did these two things, I've noticed a bit more comfort in longer term listening.post #2920 of 1706312/11/12 at 10:31amThread Starter
^^ Glad that you're enjoying them with the EQ. I'm not much for EQ myself. The only EQ that I've ever bothered with was hardware EQ with the fiio e17. I sold it though. I'm wondering if it tames that hotspot for those who are sensitive to it??post #2921 of 1706312/11/12 at 10:44am
How do you guys put the HE400 on your head? I mean, where do you position your ear within the earpad? Do you put your ear-channel in the middle? Or do you put the earpad way to the front, so that the earpads make contact with the back of your ear?post #2922 of 1706312/11/12 at 10:47amThread Starterpost #2923 of 1706312/11/12 at 10:58amQuote:
I am not really sure where the "hotspot" is on these phones. The only edge I have detected is partly recording based, partly a female voice. It was Norah Jones singing "Say Goodbye" on her kick butt new CD. There is some layering and echo of voice and it is a little bit "harsh" to my ears, as much as I still love the song. I figure it is between 2-5khz. Yet I thought that typically, the human voice ranges only up to, say, 1.5-2khz. Do you or anyone else have a better guess?post #2924 of 1706312/11/12 at 11:25amQuote:Originally Posted by MrMateoHead
I am not really sure where the "hotspot" is on these phones. The only edge I have detected is partly recording based, partly a female voice. It was Norah Jones singing "Say Goodbye" on her kick butt new CD. There is some layering and echo of voice and it is a little bit "harsh" to my ears, as much as I still love the song. I figure it is between 2-5khz. Yet I thought that typically, the human voice ranges only up to, say, 1.5-2khz. Do you or anyone else have a better guess?
There's a pretty hefty dip from about 2-5kHz if I remember correctly. Biggest dip being about 2khz for me I think(as well as a large channel inbalance) based on what I was hearing in sinegen.
There highest spike is at 9khz, which is just a little bit higher than the 1kHz bump, but relative to the surrounding frequencies it is more noticable.
But be warned using a graphic EQ isn't the best way to do this. It is not "what you see is what you get", some frequencies are being altered in ways that you don't realize. Use a parametric EQ like electri-q where it shows you the actual curve, and you have a lot more room to work around with. I've got a few presets for it if you'd like where I used the data from headphones.com to smooth out the peaks and dips.
- **Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread**
Gear mentioned in this thread:
- 2013 Head-Fi Winter Gift Guide (Over-Ear Headphones)
- › iBasso DX90. Dual Sabre *ES9018K2M*, New amp section. Review 1st... 1 minute ago
- › Review: Hifiman HE-6/EF-6: An Elite Headphone System, Under One Roof 1 minute ago
- › New JH Audio flagship! "Siren Series Roxanne" 1 minute ago
- › Misleading recommendations on HE-400? 2 minutes ago
- › Mad Lust Envy's Headphone Gaming Guide: (Update: 4/17/2014: AKG... 2 minutes ago
- › FitEar TO GO! 334 --- Suyama's custom IEM, made universal! 2 minutes ago
- › Grado Fan Club! 3 minutes ago
- › [NEW] Audio Technica CKR series (CKR10, CKR9, CKR7) 3 minutes ago
- › Fiio X5 Thread - info updated on Jan 17th 2014 3 minutes ago
- › HeadAmp Headphone Demos -- Audeze LCD-X and LCD-XC sign up on Black... 4 minutes ago
- › FiiO Andes (E07K) Portable USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier -... by originalsnuffy
- › Shure SE535-V Earphone by david8090
- › Sony MDR-V55/BR DJ style Headphones by Vero Golf Champ
- › Pure i20 iPod Dock by Gruffnutz
- › Astell & Kern AK240 by Currawong
- › Shure SE215 Special Edition by TherryK13
- › V-MODA XS by Tom22
- › Sony MDR-XD100 Stereo Headphones by xflight297
- › RAZER Kraken Pro Circumaural Analog Gaming Headset - Black by Bonny
- › HifiMan Electronics HM-700 DAC with RE-400b Balanced In-Ear... by lin0003
- › Westone latest universal iem flagship was the... by majedelamine
- › How to find the Tokyo e-earphone shop by Currawong
- › The Best BASS Headphones ( a Head-Fi Wiki) by Hawaiibadboy
- › 2013 Head-Fi Winter Gift Guide (In-Ear... by joe
- › 2013 Head-Fi Winter Gift Guide (Over-Ear... by jude
- › 2013 Head-Fi Winter Gift Guide (Over-Ear... by joe
- › Adjusting bias on Stax tube amplifiers by ardilla
- › Headphone Power Calculator Spreadsheet by robrob
- › Headphone-to-Speaker-Amp Interface With... by robrob
- › Headphone Resistor Network Calculator by robrob