Originally Posted by olegausany
I really love my HD650 with Moon Audio Blue Dragon V3 cable (NOT SILVER), yes I'm one of those who says that $200 after market cable makes difference and i paid $350 for my HD650.
Interesting you went with blue. What improvements did you notice from it? I was considering a silver for a while, but after hearing O2 brighten up HE-400 (and disliking the result) I'm thinking blue/black may be preferable. Did you try black or silver at all, or only the blue?
Originally Posted by wje
The most important part is what makes YOU happy with your listening experience. A $200 cable can mean very different things to different people. Some might not place as high of a value on having such a cable. Yet, there will be others who may have more disposable income and think very little of the expense, yet enjoy what the cable brings to the cable.
My feeling on cables (beyond the fact that pre-made after-market cables are grossly overpriced for what you get, it is unfortunately the norm) is that compared to headphone, amp and DAC changes, a cable has marginal ability to change anything. However, once you've settled on end-game source/amp and don't intend to upgrade it, cables, like tubes, can be used to slightly tweak/refine your sound where you want it to be. Cost-to-performance they're miserable value, but I do believe they can add the finishing touch to round out little issues with equipment you've already decided you like enough to stick with.
Other than maybe buying LCD-2 someday, I'm pretty much at end-game with HE-500/D5k/Lyr/Bifrost/O2. I don't intend to upgrade the DAC or the amps (though I could add a "desktop O2' when available, not for improvement in sound but in connection options and fit & finish) and LCD-2 is the only remaining headphone I have much of any interest in at all unless I feel the desire to pick up T50's for playing with mods. So on that front, tweaking via cables and tubes is a nice way to alter what I already like by slight margins. And that's the only position I find them terribly worth recommending.
Originally Posted by MattTCG
Wait, I thought that cable was silver...no?
Dragon in general, or what you thought olegausany bought? For the dragons, blue & black Dragon are copper, Silver Dragon is silver. Black supposedly has thicker gauge conductors as the main difference.
Originally Posted by olegausany
My income not allowing me to spend $200 on cable just to show others i have one but once i got one i notice improvement in bass depth plus treble became refined
As i said before ON MY SETUP without external amp D5000/7000 more neutral and balanced for me than HE-400 plus light and comfortable. At the same time HE-400 live well with recordings whose level is too high while on D5000 they are distorted. D7000 almost fix that problem but have only 95% of bass depth comparing to D5000 so i chose to keep D7000 to best overall sound. Plus i prefer pleather pads on HE-400 for bass but they less comfortable for me since i'm wearing glasses. I borrowed and tried E11 but didn't notice any improvement on HE-400 while noticed some bass improvement on HD650 but still not on par with HE-400 / D5000/7000 so i'm planning to sell HD650
E11 isn't an excellent amp for HD650 which craves high voltage, or for that matter HE-400 or D5000 either, though I liked it better for HD650 than my Headroom Micro. But HD650, and I think HE-400 really opens up on a hybrid amp. D5000 I like with a nice SS amp though. E11 isn't terrible for what it is, but I have all three headphones you mention (D5k not D7k) and E11 doesn't bring out the best in any of them the way Lyr or O2 does. Lyr (and most hybrids I'd guess) is pretty incredible with HE-400 and HD650.
But I'd love to know your Dragon impressions and comparisons, since I'm considering one!