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post #2341 of 17605
I was doing some digging around the Moon-Audio site regarding their accessories. The also sell the HifiMAN replacement pads for the same price that you can get them for from HifiMAN. $20 for a pair of the pleather pads, and $10 for a pair of the velour pads.

http://www.moon-audio.com/diy-audio-parts.html?p=17
post #2342 of 17605
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

I was doing some digging around the Moon-Audio site regarding their accessories. The also sell the HifiMAN replacement pads for the same price that you can get them for from HifiMAN. $20 for a pair of the pleather pads, and $10 for a pair of the velour pads.
http://www.moon-audio.com/diy-audio-parts.html?p=17

They lowered the price...I don't know if Drew is spying on us or not, but I did point out that they were $10 cheaper at Head-Direct a few weeks ago and I checked back recently and I noticed that he cut the price in half.

post #2343 of 17605

Well, $50 later (expensive Australia Post) my HE400s are on their way back to HK.

 

Total cost of trying them was $70 (90 if you count the wasted connectors and velours, which I might try and modify to fit my M50s)  small enough to not leave a bad taste in my mouth, given that I got my HD650s for $350 and *know* I'll love them.

 

It'll be interesting to see if they're defective or just not my cup of tea... I'll post back once I know.

post #2344 of 17605
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An now back to the HifiMan HE-400

 

Has anyone here tried experimenting with some mobile amps from say Leckerton or ALO? I'm rather curious if this can will scale up with the right synergy.

Yes, the UHA-6S MKII sounds very, very good with these. Not boring at all. Don't know which opamp the unit I tried had. Anything with less power than these though, won't exactly sound good. 

post #2345 of 17605

Weird...  If anyone has a pair of velours and a set of M50s, chuck them together and tell me what you think (remove pads w- rings, then remove rings and put pads straight onto your M50s the same way the stock pads go on).  Not a perfect fit, but close enough to give a shot.

 

I'm rather impressed, but I can't A/B so I don't want to make any statements...

post #2346 of 17605
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Originally Posted by Dragunov-21 View Post

Weird...  If anyone has a pair of velours and a set of M50s, chuck them together and tell me what you think (remove pads w- rings, then remove rings and put pads straight onto your M50s the same way the stock pads go on).  Not a perfect fit, but close enough to give a shot.

 

I'm rather impressed, but I can't A/B so I don't want to make any statements...


You mean the HE-400 pads? I have no idea that it could fit the M50s. Gotta give it a try once I'm back home then...

post #2347 of 17605
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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

They lowered the price...I don't know if Drew is spying on us or not, but I did point out that they were $10 cheaper at Head-Direct a few weeks ago and I checked back recently and I noticed that he cut the price in half.

 

Yeah, I order two pair of velours from moon a few weeks ago not realizing that they were twice the price. I sent an email asking why and got a snippy response. redface.gif

 

The shortly after the price was lowered. biggrin.gif

post #2348 of 17605

Apropos of nothing: 

 

 

You know, I respect Tyll from Innerfedilty  immensely, but I just don't understand why he hasn't reviewed the he400 yet. I know he's one guy and can't possibly review every new headphone that happens to roll down the pike, but C'mon, dude! I mean these are serious headphones that are selling for a pittance. I had an opportunity  to spend some time with the he-500 recently and I think Matt was spot-on with his earlier comments. The he-500 may objectively measure better than the he-400, but the differences with square-waves and all that junk has to be academic, at least in comparing these headphones! Does the he-500 sound a little different/better? You bet, but not by a great deal, unless you're the type to fetishise small difference--and yes, I know that many headphone enthusiasts do exactly that, so no offense to anyone! But my main point here is this: the practical, real-world, ears-only difference between the he400 and he500 is sound-signature. End of story. And since I know Tyll loves the he-500, I'm just wandering if he ever plans to give the he-400 serious consideration. One more thing: he put the AKG K550 on his wall of fame! Holy Felony, Batman! I mean those headphones are fine for sealed headphones, but the 550's treble is lit-up like some demented Christmas tree. Moreover, the he-400 just murders those headphones in just about every way--and hey, they only cost 100 bucks more! (Apples and Oranges here maybe, so I won't push the comparisons.) Sigh. Oh well. I don't mean to rant, but I think quality headphones like he-400 just shouldn't be ignored  by the elites among us--so consider this a plea to the powers that be.


Edited by Madmollusk - 11/13/12 at 7:40am
post #2349 of 17605
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

Apropos of nothing: 

 

 

You know, I respect Tyll from Innerfedilty  immensely, but I just don't understand why he hasn't reviewed the he400 yet. I know he's one guy and can't possibly review every new headphone that happens to roll down the pike, but C'mon, dude! I mean these are serious headphones that are selling for a pittance. I had an opportunity  to spend some time with the he-500 recently and I think Matt was spot-on with his earlier comments. The he-500 may objectively measure better than the he-400, but the differences with square-waves and all that junk has to be academic, at least in comparing these headphones! Does the he-500 sound a little different/better? You bet, but not by a great deal, unless you're the type to fetishise small difference--and yes, I know that many headphone enthusiasts do exactly that, so no offense to anyone! But my main point here is this: the practical, real-world, ears-only difference between the he400 and he500 is sound-signature. End of story. And since I know Tyll loves the he-500, I'm just wandering if he ever plans to give the he-400 serious consideration. One more thing: he put the AKG K550 on his wall of fame! Holy Felony, Batman! I mean those headphones are fine for sealed headphones, but the 550's treble is lit-up like some demented Christmas tree. Moreover, the he-400 just murders those headphones in just about every way--and hey, they only cost 100 bucks more! (Apples and Oranges here maybe, so I won't push the comparisons.) Sigh. Oh well. I don't mean to rant, but I think quality headphones like he-400 just shouldn't be ignored  by the elites among us--so consider this a plea to the powers that be.

I think it's because the tizzy upper treble bothered him greatly, and he doesn't want to push out a lukewarm review of a Hifiman headphone.

post #2350 of 17605
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I think it's because the tizzy upper treble bothered him greatly, and he doesn't want to push out a lukewarm review of a Hifiman headphone.


I hear you, but that's why I mentioned the AKG K550. It has tizzy treble you wouldn't believe (talk about fatiguing!), and, yep, he put those on his wall of fame. Just saying. 


Edited by Madmollusk - 11/13/12 at 7:55am
post #2351 of 17605
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I hear you, but that's why I mentioned the AKG K550. It has tizzy treble you wouldn't believe (talk about fatiguing!), and, yep, he put those on his wall of fame. Just saying. 

You could try to PM him about it.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/u/85/tyll-hertsens

post #2352 of 17605
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Originally Posted by Madmollusk View Post

Apropos of nothing: 


You know, I respect Tyll from Innerfedilty  immensely, but I just don't understand why he hasn't reviewed the he400 yet. I know he's one guy and can't possibly review every new headphone that happens to roll down the pike, but C'mon, dude! I mean these are serious headphones that are selling for a pittance. I had an opportunity  to spend some time with the he-500 recently and I think Matt was spot-on with his earlier comments. The he-500 may objectively measure better than the he-400, but the differences with square-waves and all that junk has to be academic, at least in comparing these headphones! Does the he-500 sound a little different/better? You bet, but not by a great deal, unless you're the type to fetishise small difference--and yes, I know that many headphone enthusiasts do exactly that, so no offense to anyone! But my main point here is this: the practical, real-world, ears-only difference between the he400 and he500 is sound-signature. End of story. And since I know Tyll loves the he-500, I'm just wandering if he ever plans to give the he-400 serious consideration. One more thing: he put the AKG K550 on his wall of fame! Holy Felony, Batman! I mean those headphones are fine for sealed headphones, but the 550's treble is lit-up like some demented Christmas tree. Moreover, the he-400 just murders those headphones in just about every way--and hey, they only cost 100 bucks more! (Apples and Oranges here maybe, so I won't push the comparisons.) Sigh. Oh well. I don't mean to rant, but I think quality headphones like he-400 just shouldn't be ignored  by the elites among us--so consider this a plea to the powers that be.

I hear u..and i agree with u until a certain point..having owned the he300, the he400 and now the he500.. I must say the he500 is the more complete headphone of the three..yeah ur right..its probably not a better sound quality difference of 300 euros compared to the he400..but..listening on my amp and my cables i do prefer the sound signature of the he500..but as u say..its personal..and no ..am not a headphone fetishist..i use my headphones to listen to music when i come home from work all tired..i found out it relaxes me..and with the he400 i couldnt listen to it relaxed..was strange actually..because with the he300 i didnt have that experience..with the he500 and the he300 i sometimes even fell alseep because of the sweet sounds..on the he400 it was more active..more in ur face..cant really put it into words really..don get me wrong..for the price the he400 is a bargain..as is his little brother and his bigger sister but for listening experience..its the he500 thats wins..always..even how small the better quality of sound it may have over the he400.
Edited by hifimanrookie - 11/13/12 at 9:07am
post #2353 of 17605
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

You could try to PM him about it.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/u/85/tyll-hertsens

 

Hmmmm. I may just do that. Though a lowly peon should approach a celebrated headphone guru with all due respect--so I hope I haven't inadvertently soured an opportunity to make an honest inquiry. I'm sure Tyll is a relaxed guy, so, on second thought, I'll PM him (when I'm finished with my workday that is.) Thanks for the suggestion, Jerg.


Edited by Madmollusk - 11/13/12 at 8:18am
post #2354 of 17605
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


I hear u..and i agree with u until a certain point..having owned the he300, the he400 and now the he500.. I must say the he500 is the more complete headphone of the three..yeah ur right..its not a better sound quality difference of 300 euros compared to the he400..but..listening on my amp and my cables i do prefer the sound signature of the he500..but as u say..its personal..and no ..am not a headphone fetishist..i use my headphones to listen to music when i come home from work all tired..i found out it relaxes me..and with the he400 i couldnt listen to it relaxed..was strange actualy..because with the he300 i didnt have that experience..with the he500 and the he300 i sometimes even fell alseep because of the sweet sounds..on the he400 it was more active..more in ur face..cant really put it into words really..don get me wrong..for the price the he400 is a bargain..as is his little brother .but for listening experience..its the he500 thats wins..always..even how small the better quality of sound it may have over the he400.


That's a very fair observation. 

post #2355 of 17605
Thread Starter 

I'd be interested in Tyll's review also. I think that it would help to bring more recognition to the he400. 

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