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10 $ velours now 40 $ the focus pad, rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I haven't checked this thread in a million years, and I'm wondering if anyone has tried the HE-400 with:

Shure 1540 alcantara pads (they seem popular for the HE-4)
Focus pads (saw the impressions like 10 pages ago, would like more impressions with non-EQ.)
Focus A pads

I think these impressions would be a great help, considering the great prices on the HE400 nowadays. I'll try and search back a few weeks for comparisons. I'm a two time owner of the HE-400, and used them 99% of the time with velours. I know it's strengths and weaknesses quite well, so I'm hoping to see if the newer pads have done anything in the way of reducing the treble.

I had many of the focuspads impressions, and I do not use EQ. I would highly recommend the focuspads. Comfort, better imaging (especially front and back), taming of the tizzy treble, more present mids (noticable in voices, guitars, other string instruments) etc. Really a big upgrade in my opinion. I have not tried the other pads, unfortunately. Best of luck to you :)

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It seems like the 4khz peak of the Focus pads seem beneficial on the already upper mid deficient HE400s.

If I ever find myself getting the 400 again, I'll definitely be looking into these pads.
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seriously guys, this 400i is really awesome. I wish I had money T-T

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Good & bad to hear. If my he400 dies and I haven't replaced it, I will gladly look into trying it out. It's only bad bc I'm currently weighing my options on closed headphones. How dies the bass hold up compared to the original?
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The way I read the 400i thread so far is... 400 has kick-ass audiophile bass and 400i is more a RELATIVELY nuanced and just a bit understated audiophile bass to the 400's kick.

 

I just wonder if the 400i will EQ to give the best of both cans....


Edited by Lohb - 8/27/14 at 11:24pm
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Originally Posted by Lohb View Post

The way I read the 400i thread so far is... 400 has kick-ass audiophile bass and 400i is more a RELATIVELY nuanced and just a bit understated audiophile bass to the 400's kick.

I just wonder if the 400i will EQ to give the best of both cans....

Ive been playing with EQ on the he-400i and honestly I still prefer the he-400. EQing just makes the bass louder. HE-400 bass is harder hitting, has better slam, more body. I'm trying to really hard to like the he-400i but the bass just isn't doing it for me. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by spittis View Post
 

 

I cannot agree with that HE-400 would have the best clarity in that price range. At least if we are talking "apparent" clarity partially produced by emphasized treble, there are several headphones that are better, for example DT-880 and K712. Instrument separation is harder to judge from my memory, I'd say both the HE-400 and K712 are good in that regard, can't say which is better.

 

Soundstage is pretty much equal between Q701 and K712. Haven't heard AD700.



I haven't heard the K712 but I owned the Q701 for a while. IMO, the HE-400 has much better instrument separation, more 3D. 

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I actually disagree with the majority here, I find the bass on the 400i not far behind at all in terms of slam, and the texture is so pronounced that I actually pick up on the bass in the track better

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So, I'm guessing the quality of the bass on the 400i is better, but the 400 is still one of the best open basshead cans there is, and yeah I know there isn't a true open basshead can, but its about as close as we can get.

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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

So, I'm guessing the quality of the bass on the 400i is better, but the 400 is still one of the best open basshead cans there is, and yeah I know there isn't a true open basshead can, but its about as close as we can get.
Fidelio x1 is a true bass head can.
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I haven't gotten a chance to hear the X1, how is it's base compared to the HE400?

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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

I haven't gotten a chance to hear the X1, how is it's base compared to the HE400?

Wooly, thick. Lots of quantity. Doesn't go quite as low.
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H-400 vs. AKG K712

 

Preface: You could love either one of these..both are really good.  Its more apples and oranges here based on preference.  These are stock versions of both.  Both are brand new out of the box.

 

Call this a very unscientific review and please feel free to bash me.  I broke a bunch of rules here... I did not have time to burn in the headphones...  I am using 1 amp that is 10 years old (Musical Fidelity X-Can v2) and an amp I just got yesterday with only 4 hours on it (Schiit Asgard 2.. which I now have properly working and will be keeping although its really running hot!)

 

Playing all downloaded movies and 2 songs from outofyourhead.net (songs were Money by Pink Floyd and Hotel California, Eagles.)

Total listening time: 11 hours

Amps: The MF X-Can v2 was simply better, played louder and tighter, made both sound better.  Made the HE-400 sound better than it made the AKG but both were better.  Could be the Schiit needs more time to break in.

 

So I took a different approach... I just listened to different material..did an A-B comparison and wrote down my emotion, or an adjective or just a thought.  Like I said, very unscientific....

 

K712

Clear vocals

Deeper Soundstage

Tight bass

Controlled bass not muddy

Not as deep bass as 400

Voices sometimes sounded like in a closet

Less fatiguing at higher volumes

Sometimes scientific sounding, sometimes a little hollow but getting better over time.

Lively

Open

 

 

H-400

Deeper bass but muddy sounding sometimes

Voices more in foreground, but not as clear

Bass is overwhelming mids and maybe highs..distracting

Mids can be muddy (maybe because of overwhelming bass?)

Subdued .. melo sounding compared to K712

Sounded like a veil over some sections vs. K712

Warmer overall sound.

Not as balanced.

"Attacking" personality: dynamic

 

For me, my choice is the K712 for how I am using it... its more balanced.    It took me a long while to decide this..I really wanted to like the 400....   Not sure if Focuspads would solve some of the issues above for the 400?

 

Unfortunately, the HE-4 did not show up today!  Ughhhhh.  I am wondering if the HE-4 might be something in the middle which might be what I am looking for.

 

 

My thoughts so far..still listening.....

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I've been playing elite dangerous with my he400s, using my ican nano amp for the last week.  I didn't think these would have sufficient bass to be a gamers headphone.  But was I wrong, it was a little too much sometimes...and I'm a big bass head.  It's really detailed and immersive when you got vr on.  EXTREMELY satisfying thud when you blow up a ship, or your own blows up.

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