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post #17941 of 20630
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Originally Posted by spittis View Post
 

 

I cannot agree with that HE-400 would have the best clarity in that price range. At least if we are talking "apparent" clarity partially produced by emphasized treble, there are several headphones that are better, for example DT-880 and K712. Instrument separation is harder to judge from my memory, I'd say both the HE-400 and K712 are good in that regard, can't say which is better.

 

Soundstage is pretty much equal between Q701 and K712. Haven't heard AD700.



I haven't heard the K712 but I owned the Q701 for a while. IMO, the HE-400 has much better instrument separation, more 3D. 

post #17942 of 20630

I actually disagree with the majority here, I find the bass on the 400i not far behind at all in terms of slam, and the texture is so pronounced that I actually pick up on the bass in the track better

post #17943 of 20630

So, I'm guessing the quality of the bass on the 400i is better, but the 400 is still one of the best open basshead cans there is, and yeah I know there isn't a true open basshead can, but its about as close as we can get.

post #17944 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

So, I'm guessing the quality of the bass on the 400i is better, but the 400 is still one of the best open basshead cans there is, and yeah I know there isn't a true open basshead can, but its about as close as we can get.
Fidelio x1 is a true bass head can.
post #17945 of 20630

I haven't gotten a chance to hear the X1, how is it's base compared to the HE400?

post #17946 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

I haven't gotten a chance to hear the X1, how is it's base compared to the HE400?

Wooly, thick. Lots of quantity. Doesn't go quite as low.
post #17947 of 20630

H-400 vs. AKG K712

 

Preface: You could love either one of these..both are really good.  Its more apples and oranges here based on preference.  These are stock versions of both.  Both are brand new out of the box.

 

Call this a very unscientific review and please feel free to bash me.  I broke a bunch of rules here... I did not have time to burn in the headphones...  I am using 1 amp that is 10 years old (Musical Fidelity X-Can v2) and an amp I just got yesterday with only 4 hours on it (Schiit Asgard 2.. which I now have properly working and will be keeping although its really running hot!)

 

Playing all downloaded movies and 2 songs from outofyourhead.net (songs were Money by Pink Floyd and Hotel California, Eagles.)

Total listening time: 11 hours

Amps: The MF X-Can v2 was simply better, played louder and tighter, made both sound better.  Made the HE-400 sound better than it made the AKG but both were better.  Could be the Schiit needs more time to break in.

 

So I took a different approach... I just listened to different material..did an A-B comparison and wrote down my emotion, or an adjective or just a thought.  Like I said, very unscientific....

 

K712

Clear vocals

Deeper Soundstage

Tight bass

Controlled bass not muddy

Not as deep bass as 400

Voices sometimes sounded like in a closet

Less fatiguing at higher volumes

Sometimes scientific sounding, sometimes a little hollow but getting better over time.

Lively

Open

 

 

H-400

Deeper bass but muddy sounding sometimes

Voices more in foreground, but not as clear

Bass is overwhelming mids and maybe highs..distracting

Mids can be muddy (maybe because of overwhelming bass?)

Subdued .. melo sounding compared to K712

Sounded like a veil over some sections vs. K712

Warmer overall sound.

Not as balanced.

"Attacking" personality: dynamic

 

For me, my choice is the K712 for how I am using it... its more balanced.    It took me a long while to decide this..I really wanted to like the 400....   Not sure if Focuspads would solve some of the issues above for the 400?

 

Unfortunately, the HE-4 did not show up today!  Ughhhhh.  I am wondering if the HE-4 might be something in the middle which might be what I am looking for.

 

 

My thoughts so far..still listening.....

post #17948 of 20630

I've been playing elite dangerous with my he400s, using my ican nano amp for the last week.  I didn't think these would have sufficient bass to be a gamers headphone.  But was I wrong, it was a little too much sometimes...and I'm a big bass head.  It's really detailed and immersive when you got vr on.  EXTREMELY satisfying thud when you blow up a ship, or your own blows up.

post #17949 of 20630

For me right now:

HE-400 w/ FocusPads > HE-400i > HE-400 w/ velour pads


The HE-400i does so much right but the bass simply doesn't match the HE-400. The Focuspads bring the HE-400 halfway to the HE-400i whilst retaining the bass. 


I also just got my leather headband add-on and it makes the cans so much more comfortable (esp with the focuspads)

post #17950 of 20630
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Originally Posted by chengsta View Post
 

I've been playing elite dangerous with my he400s, using my ican nano amp for the last week.  I didn't think these would have sufficient bass to be a gamers headphone.  But was I wrong, it was a little too much sometimes...and I'm a big bass head.  It's really detailed and immersive when you got vr on.  EXTREMELY satisfying thud when you blow up a ship, or your own blows up.


Bass boost on or off... ? I've been looking at the iCan stuff and PB2 amp for a while now...flip-flopping between 3 portable amps.

post #17951 of 20630
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Originally Posted by Lohb View Post
 


Bass boost on or off... ? I've been looking at the iCan stuff and PB2 amp for a while now...flip-flopping between 3 portable amps.


bass boost on.  I would advise against the 'nano' version of the ican since those who own both don't like the nano but love the micro.

post #17952 of 20630

When i get back home next year i need to replace my HE400s pads and cable as both have deteriorated

 

I love bass, so the focus pads and balanced cable worth it? Source will be centrance hifi-m8

post #17953 of 20630

I have a HE400 and it is awesome!!

post #17954 of 20630

Also an HE-400 owner, and it's a great set of headphones in my opinion. Clear, detailed, yet musical and delivering across the entire frequency band. I have quite a large head, and the fit was almost perfect right out of the box. It just needed an ever so little adjustment of the head band.

 

Powering them through a Schiit Asgard 2, they provide musical joy in spades.

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Is anyone using the Focuspads or Focuspads-a?  Do they open up the soundstage at all?

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