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post #17911 of 20642
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Originally Posted by MichaelJames99 View Post

 

I would assume I would not use a DAC right? (since the RECON unit is already doing the D to A conversion?) and just need to get an amp?

 

I've been looking at Schit Magni or Vali  but never heard any amps at all.. suggestions for amps with movie watching?

Yep, just the amp. IDK what makes something sound better for movies or not... are you looking for more theatric bass? Clearer mids? Less fatiguing sound? More volume (be careful!) You won't mess up with a Schiit amp. What didn't you like about the one you tried for movies?

post #17912 of 20642
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Originally Posted by jasonite View Post
 


Is sonic isolation that important then? Do you have any recommendations? I've considered all these other cans:  Audio Technica ATH-AD900X, NVX Audio XPT100, KRK KNS6400, AKG K612PRO, Audio-Technica ATH-M50S, Sennheiser HD 558, and the KAM HP1. Some are open, some are closed.

 

My budget is $200 and under, and I got a deal where I could get the 400's for $200, which is why I was considering them. Any advice is welcome, my big considerations are imaging, soundstage and bass, primarily for gaming. I'm not a basshead though.

 

J

I think a lot of people here would say AKG Q701 would do a good job with gaming (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

I believe there are open box deals for $170. Check Amazon


Edited by coletrain104 - 8/21/14 at 9:12pm
post #17913 of 20642
I use my He 400 for gaming, and I really like it, before I was using some sennheiser 595, being lighter the comfort was better but
I still prefer the Hifiman anyway : better sound, bass

For the price you can get the HE 400 it's really hard to beat
200 $ is an awesome price, get it and enjoy !!!

It's right the Hifiman is leaking sound and you hear what's happening around you but for the rest it's so perfect wink.gif
Edited by TontonJoK - 8/22/14 at 12:34am
post #17914 of 20642
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Originally Posted by MichaelJames99 View Post

I purchased the HE-400.... I watch 90% movies.  I am going from DirectTV or Laptop via SPIDF  or USB to a RECON 3D (which does the 5.1/7.1 Surround processing).  RECON 3D to HE-400.  ***But I want to add an amp in between the RECON3D and the HE-400



 



I would assume I would not use a DAC right? (since the RECON unit is already doing the D to A conversion?) and just need to get an amp?



 



I've been looking at Schit Magni or Vali  but never heard any amps at all.. suggestions for amps with movie watching?



I also don't need a portable amp.  A non portable amp is fine.  I was able to get ahold of a Musical Fidelity X-Can 2 v2 yesterday to try out.  Its a Class A tube amp.  I am using the original tubes, non modified.  Compared to going directly from the Recon 3D, its obviously a huge jump up.  The treble highs are not as harsh any more..more smooth.  And I got a lot more bass.  I find it interesting that I can turn this unit up and although there is some increase in db output, the HE-400's seem to be taking a lot more in and not outputting as much volume. (Compared to other headphones you hook up to this unit).  Which is OK, there is really no reason to jack it up...its plenty loud!  I'm not sure this is the best amp for watching movies though.




The Musical Fidelity X-Can 2 v2 should be a very nice amp to pair with HE 400's, in my V3 the stock tubes was from Phillips the 6922 and I was really satisfied with the result.
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Its interesting.. with the Musical Fideilty X-Can v2 I have....I seem to be turning it up from 11 to 5oclock..all the way up without much increase in output.

I'm looking for an amp that has a good amount of power for the lows and can tame the highs some and strong output.. because the highs can get "tinny" or screetch sometimes.  I tested it against the Kef M500 last night.  The Kef is much easier to drive and I have to change volume output to 60% on my laptop vs. 100% with the HE-400 unit  (Using Razer Surround program I downloaded to simulate surround).  Using my Musical Fidelity it was more like 40% output on the Kef vs. 80% output on the HE-400 (using RECON3D for surround).  The result was obvious....  When I used numerous tests from Dolby, tests from youtube, that were a wide variety of tests from different manufacturers),  the HE-400 had a much larger soundstage and depth.  For example, on the helicopter going around your head:

 

Kef sounded like the helicopter was literally a foot from you going around your head, except the rear pan.. that sounded like rear right, then it hit my head, then rear left.

HE-400: Sounded like helicopter was maybe 10-15 feet all the way around me.  The rear pan was much more realistic..not perfect.. there was a small hole right behind me, but much better.

 

The Kef is a much different design.  Both sound great on music, but I am using these for movie watching only

post #17916 of 20642

My older Audio-gd NFB-12 (now NFB-15) drives these very well and I don't hear the sharp highs others mention. 50% volume is about max I can tolerate and lows are tight and deep.

post #17917 of 20642

Thanks for the responses. Does anything think there will be a problem using the 400's with a Sound Blaster Z card?

 

 

J

post #17918 of 20642
Well how is the he400against akg k712 pro.... Any one owning both...
post #17919 of 20642
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Originally Posted by gab840 View Post

Well how is the he400against akg k712 pro.... Any one owning both...

 

I compared them in this review: http://www.head-fi.org/products/akg-k712-pro/reviews/9953

 

Quote from it:

 

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Comparison to the HE-400

When you compare these two headphones, the weird V-shaped frequency response of the HE-400 is very noticeable. The HE-400 has a great bass presentation in my opinion, and the texture on drums is brilliant. On the same time, this combined with the rather small soundstage gives you this very intimate and warm sound that can be a bit too much. Vocals also sound a bit strange on the HE-400 when compared to the K712, this is probably related to the dip between 5-6 KHz. HE-400 also has slightly more emphasis on treble, especially sparkling sounds like cymbals, sometimes this works out great, sometimes less so. HE-400 definitely has a higher fun factor, so this does boil down to taste. I would still say though that the rock solid performance of the K712 makes it better overall. There is slightly more sibilance on the HE-400.

 

AKG K712: Is more neutral, has a larger soundstage, is an more even performer.

HE-400: More bass impact, slightly more treble, does some material very well while falling short on other, more forgiving with bad recordings

 

I have actually compared them again after writing that, all impressions stay but vocals sound even weirder on HE-400 when you've gotten really used to K712. In some ways I feel like the Sennheiser HD-650 is the perfect compromise between the two, getting a sweet "fun" sound while fixing that weird midrange.

post #17920 of 20642

Just wanted to thank all of you for your reviews and suggestions regarding the HE-400. "Thank you!"

 

I bought the HE-400 on Amazon for $299, the Velour pads as suggested by one member from moon-audio for $10, and the head band pad as suggested by another member from ebay for $17. The final price with taxes and shipping was $343.

 

Only had them for two days, but the sound is awesome and excellent for $299 headphones, I can wear them for two or more hours without discomfort. I do take them off after a couple hours to let me ears breathe for they get a bit soggy (my ears not the headphones). I am very happy.

 

Again, Thank you all.

post #17921 of 20642
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Originally Posted by jasonite View Post

Thanks for the responses. Does anything think there will be a problem using the 400's with a Sound Blaster Z card?


J

Never heard the Z card but when checking the web about that pairing people are complaining about the lack of juice
The card could be a fair base to use the pc as a source so you just need to add a little amp into the chain

Welcome to headfi wink.gif
post #17922 of 20642
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Originally Posted by spittis View Post

I compared them in this review: http://www.head-fi.org/products/akg-k712-pro/reviews/9953

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I have actually compared them again after writing that, all impressions stay but vocals sound even weirder on HE-400 when you've gotten really used to K712. In some ways I feel like the Sennheiser HD-650 is the perfect compromise between the two, getting a sweet "fun" sound while fixing that weird midrange.

Its good to see this,, just read it all..
Some questions though:-
People say that he400 is the best in sound clarity in 400-500$ price range also has the best instrument separation though small soundstage ...how does akg 712 compares to these points of he400
Also is the soundstage of k712 one is airy and soundstage is lesser than q701 and equal to ad700 ?????
post #17923 of 20642
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Originally Posted by gab840 View Post


Its good to see this,, just read it all..
Some questions though:-
People say that he400 is the best in sound clarity in 400-500$ price range also has the best instrument separation though small soundstage ...how does akg 712 compares to these points of he400
Also is the soundstage of k712 one is airy and soundstage is lesser than q701 and equal to ad700 ?????

 

I cannot agree with that HE-400 would have the best clarity in that price range. At least if we are talking "apparent" clarity partially produced by emphasized treble, there are several headphones that are better, for example DT-880 and K712. Instrument separation is harder to judge from my memory, I'd say both the HE-400 and K712 are good in that regard, can't say which is better.

 

Soundstage is pretty much equal between Q701 and K712. Haven't heard AD700.

post #17924 of 20642
If someone have replaced the stock cable with a new one and want to sell the stock one to me wink.gif
I'm looking for a cheap solution being tired of re plugging the connector all the time
Thanks all
post #17925 of 20642
If I get the connector only, is it easy to replace ? Do I have to solder ?
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