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Originally Posted by Hansotek View Post


The thin side should be facing the front and the thick side should be facing the back.

This positioning emulates two stereo speakers positioned very wide out in front of you (as opposed to 90 degrees directly to your left and right). It improves stereo imaging.

 

Thanks for the advise, I will give this a try and see what the results are! Thanks.

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How do I mount the pads (pleather) onto the mounting rings? Infuriating.

post #17823 of 18332

so apparently I'm a dummy who can't connect both the amp and DAC to my computer. Help?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/729723/please-help-need-to-connect-amp#post_10777555

Edit: I got it :)


Edited by coletrain104 - 8/7/14 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by Alexein Aner View Post
 

How do I mount the pads (pleather) onto the mounting rings? Infuriating.

I had to use a little shim to get the last clip in. I agree they are infuriating.

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Oh my gosh, these are just awesome! I just got the them in the mail, and I cant take them off. This is it, till next year atleast. Out of the box, from just my Iphone 5, They sound just like my amperior, but more open and airy obviously. However not as open as the hd600, but I like that, It wouldnt be as aggressive if It was any more airy.. The punch, and PRaT is crazyyyy for an open headphone, holy cow. There is some sibilance, same with the amperior/hd25, but I am a treble lover so nothing I cant handle. Its probably just my ears too. I have been finding my amperiors and ksc 75s to be more "zippy" in the highs lately, I had a neck injury a month in a half ago and my hearing is changing.. Itll heal. 2 months ago, I would have found the treble to be absolutely perfect. Bass is perfect, better than I could have imagined from a open headphone. It has the hit of my amperior, which is one of the punchiest cleanest (not overbearing) low end out of closed cans, nvm open.

 

At $300 on sale, these HE-400s are about 2x as good as my previous cans,which In my book is very worth it. The koss ksc75 already sounds so good to my ears, I thought Id have to spend $1000 to get any significant different. Im very pleased. So extremely pleased. I have heard an HD600, at Headroom (headphone dot com)in Bozeman, MT from a Fiio E11 w/ line out to Iphone 4s, and These sound better to me, from just my Iphone 5, no amp yet. I cant even imagine what these sound like out of a powerful amp. For anyone looking to buy a new headphone for home listening, under $400, I dont know if these can be beat for "Fun Listening". Rather than "accurate listening", but hey I like to jam, not look at my music with a microscope. 

 

As for comfort, I dont see what people are complaining about. These are much more comfortable than V moda M100s, and I dont notice much of a difference in weight between those either. I have long, thick curly hair that acts as cushion though, maybe that helps. I have had them on for an hour, and I would have already been bleeding from the M100s lol. I think I could handle these for 3 hours, which is about the max I ever want headphones on anyways. The build is great, and I kinda like the screw on cables, it feels secure. I dont think theyd handle too many drops from over 3 feet though, but they do feel like a $400 headphone quality wise. One thing that was wierd was one of my cups had a little rattling piece inside, before I first put it on to listen, then as I started playing it, the rattle went away. Wierd, hopefully it doesnt mean anything bad. 


Edited by Tetonpowskier - 8/7/14 at 3:36pm
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The HE-400 + Focuspads + Vali + Modi sound really good. I'm really curious how the 400i I get for the touring event will compare

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Well, I just ordered a Schiit modi (optical version). I'll report back after I have that in hand.

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What would a e12 do to these? I dont need it any louder.. I dont listen to my hp's loud. Will it bring a fuller sound, at the same volume?

The bass is actually better than the amperior, it sounds tighter and goes deeper, almost as deep as the vmoda m100, but its not painful. Quality and quantity. Mids arent as bad as i thought they would be either.
post #17829 of 18332
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Originally Posted by Tetonpowskier View Post
 

Oh my gosh, these are just awesome! I just got the them in the mail, and I cant take them off. This is it, till next year atleast. Out of the box, from just my Iphone 5, They sound just like my amperior, but more open and airy obviously. However not as open as the hd600, but I like that, It wouldnt be as aggressive if It was any more airy.. The punch, and PRaT is crazyyyy for an open headphone, holy cow. There is some sibilance, same with the amperior/hd25, but I am a treble lover so nothing I cant handle. Its probably just my ears too. I have been finding my amperiors and ksc 75s to be more "zippy" in the highs lately, I had a neck injury a month in a half ago and my hearing is changing.. Itll heal. 2 months ago, I would have found the treble to be absolutely perfect. Bass is perfect, better than I could have imagined from a open headphone. It has the hit of my amperior, which is one of the punchiest cleanest (not overbearing) low end out of closed cans, nvm open.

 

At $300 on sale, these HE-400s are about 2x as good as my previous cans,which In my book is very worth it. The koss ksc75 already sounds so good to my ears, I thought Id have to spend $1000 to get any significant different. Im very pleased. So extremely pleased. I have heard an HD600, at Headroom (headphone dot com)in Bozeman, MT from a Fiio E11 w/ line out to Iphone 4s, and These sound better to me, from just my Iphone 5, no amp yet. I cant even imagine what these sound like out of a powerful amp. For anyone looking to buy a new headphone for home listening, under $400, I dont know if these can be beat for "Fun Listening". Rather than "accurate listening", but hey I like to jam, not look at my music with a microscope. 

 

As for comfort, I dont see what people are complaining about. These are much more comfortable than V moda M100s, and I dont notice much of a difference in weight between those either. I have long, thick curly hair that acts as cushion though, maybe that helps. I have had them on for an hour, and I would have already been bleeding from the M100s lol. I think I could handle these for 3 hours, which is about the max I ever want headphones on anyways. The build is great, and I kinda like the screw on cables, it feels secure. I dont think theyd handle too many drops from over 3 feet though, but they do feel like a $400 headphone quality wise. One thing that was wierd was one of my cups had a little rattling piece inside, before I first put it on to listen, then as I started playing it, the rattle went away. Wierd, hopefully it doesnt mean anything bad. 

 

I don't think I can say enough how surprised I was (and still am) by the bass coming from a pair of open headphones. And I don't mean that as an audiophile, I mean that as a basshead. I mean that as the guy at the red light with 2 12's in his trunk annoying everyone next to him. EQ a couple db in 60hz and they defy all logic. 


Edited by HesterDW - 8/8/14 at 12:47am
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Originally Posted by Tetonpowskier View Post

What would a e12 do to these? I dont need it any louder.. I dont listen to my hp's loud. Will it bring a fuller sound, at the same volume?

The bass is actually better than the amperior, it sounds tighter and goes deeper, almost as deep as the vmoda m100, but its not painful. Quality and quantity. Mids arent as bad as i thought they would be either.

What are you using now?

post #17831 of 18332
Just my iphone 5. I noticed better SQ out of a vmoda m100, from a fiio e11. Will i get an even more dramatic effect from an e12 powering a he 400?
Edited by Tetonpowskier - 8/8/14 at 1:01am
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Originally Posted by Tetonpowskier View Post

Just my iphone 5. I noticed better SQ out of a vmoda m100, from a fiio e11. Will i get an even more dramatic effect from an e12 powering a he 400?

I just tested "Ab-Soul - Showin' Love". I listened to it from my Droid 4 first then listened from my Icon HDP. It's probably not a completely fair comparison though because the Icon HDP is also a dac, but it's all I have. I wouldn't say the difference was 'knock your socks off' dramatic, but it was a very noticeable difference. Highs are smoother, bass is tighter, but it's also faster. When these are amped the planar magnetics start to show off the speed they're known for. The most notable difference was separation. When amped the trumpets, high hats, bassline, and voice all become separate entities, it feels like I can pinpoint each of their locations in space.

 

I also tested "Regis Chillbin" and the bass speed difference was even more noticeable. Where the bass notes begin and end are much clearer and controlled. Separation that I elaborated on earlier is present here as well. All those weird sounds are completely separated. Sound stage much bigger. Sounds in the background go farther back, but at the same time become more present. (Does that make sense?) What I mean is I'm noticing sounds that I barely heard or were muffled on my Droid 4, but the space has also widened between them.

 

I'm really horrible at doing these audiophile type impressions, sorry. But I'd say It's definitely worth it to amp these. You get cleaner highs, more controlled and faster attacking bass, and a wider spacial presence. That being said if I didn't have an amp I'd still enjoy these cans.


Edited by HesterDW - 8/8/14 at 1:56am
post #17833 of 18332
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Originally Posted by Tetonpowskier View Post

What would a e12 do to these? I dont need it any louder.. I dont listen to my hp's loud. Will it bring a fuller sound, at the same volume?

The bass is actually better than the amperior, it sounds tighter and goes deeper, almost as deep as the vmoda m100, but its not painful. Quality and quantity. Mids arent as bad as i thought they would be either.

 

The E17 is pretty nice with the He-400's, they respond well to EQ so having the bass and treble adjustment is nice.

I'd imagine they sound pretty good with the E12 as well although I haven't heard this one.

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Awesome. I have decide between e12 n e17 now..
post #17835 of 18332

I wanted to buy some new pads, and I'm curious which ones you guys would recommend. Also, if someone could link me to a reliable site to buy them from, that'd be much appreciated.

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