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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

I've been considering that route, Vibro as well. Then again I'd love to try Ultrasone PRO 900 as well. There's also the Denon dX000 line. I love the bass on the he400 quite a bit either way.

I think the Denon D2000, D600 both would fit the bill for you. I have all and love the HE-400 bass as you do and the Denons satisfy me easily.
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Are you looking for more quality of bass or more quantity?  You said you were looking for around the same level but you also said you were looking for an 'upgrade.'  It seems as though you're looking for a sidegrade of the sorts.

 

Getting more quantity of bass out of most closed cans will be really easy.  Getting more quality out of any headphone open or closed sub 1000 dollars will be nigh impossible.

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Frankly, I'd just EQ some more bass in. I know that's not an option in every case but I've found the HE-400 is extremely responsive to EQ. I don't use it much because the HE-400 is extremely satisfying in the bass department already. :L3000:

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For current and former owners of the HE400 what would be an upgrade from these cans? I am starting to get the upgrade bug and trying to determine what to move up to. Would an HD650 be an upgrade or should I just move the HE560?

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Are you looking for more quality of bass or more quantity?  You said you were looking for around the same level but you also said you were looking for an 'upgrade.'  It seems as though you're looking for a sidegrade of the sorts.

Getting more quantity of bass out of most closed cans will be really easy.  Getting more quality out of any headphone open or closed sub 1000 dollars will be nigh impossible.

Probably aiming for side grade on quality with an increase on quantity, but I'm utterly inexperienced with closed cans, so I really don't know what to expect. The two best closed I have are the Momentum on ear and Onkyo FC300. I'm also not bothered by the trade off in soundstage.

What I'm really trying to do right now is figure out my next upgrade for my setup. I'm keeping an eye out for a vintage receiver I like the look of that isn't all that powerful because I don't need TOTL for my purpose, I really need to get off my butt and buy 2 DACs that are good (one of which has an optical input for TV) as well as debating if I want to replace the he400.
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Originally Posted by gahung View Post

But isn't the Q701 a downgrade in this case? I am looking for one that is in par with HE 400 while shines in mids and probably the soundstage. How is the K712 compared to Q701?

 



The Q701 is a much more versatile and natural sounding headphone that doesn't have any major weaknesses like the HE400 has. I sold my HE400 after getting a Q701 for less than half of what I paid for the HE400.
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about to buy the velour pads... is the price difference of the focuspad and focuspad-a worth it?

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Originally Posted by TheGame21x View Post
 

Frankly, I'd just EQ some more bass in. I know that's not an option in every case but I've found the HE-400 is extremely responsive to EQ. I don't use it much because the HE-400 is extremely satisfying in the bass department already. :L3000:

 

That's been my experience, as well. I used to use a plugin for JRiver (I'm sure it would work in any other media playback program that supports VST plugins) that was pretty great. It was a parametric EQ that was easy to use and produced great results. The neat thing about it was that I could boost whatever I wanted and then, with the click of a button, it would set the highest boost point to 0db, effectively translating my desired curve so that it was all cuts instead of boosts. From what I've gathered, that is the desired way of handling EQ shifts. I was happy with the results and I didn't make any drastic changes so there wasn't much loss of volume (at least nothing that my amp couldn't compensate for with a tiny extra twist of the dial).

 

I'm not using it anymore but I do use the generic 10 band EQ in JRiver to create the a similar effect. The HE-400s sound great on their own but I get way more enjoyment out of them by making the bass a bit more apparent and pulling back on some of those harsher high frequencies. They really turn into a fun headphone once you get that slightly colored sound but I haven't really noticed a major loss of clarity. But I am a sucker for nice bass so a lot of people may disagree with that assessment.

 

I might have to dig that up and get it configured again because it was a pretty powerful tool to have.

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Originally Posted by Mani ATH 87 View Post
 



Indeed! It's nice that they work with the other headphones in the series, though I have no plans on upgrading from the HE 400's at the moment :)

I went ahead and ordered the focus pads (the stock pads that ship with the 560)

I'll leave some impressions once they arrive.

 

Happy to see that these pads shipped so quickly from Head Direct, to bad they provided me with an inaccurate tracking number. When tracking the order it shows as having already been delivered back in March, to Portugal....I live in Canada, lol

This is why I dislike buying things online...

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Happy to see that these pads shipped so quickly from Head Direct, to bad they provided me with an inaccurate tracking number. When tracking the order it shows as having already been delivered back in March, to Portugal....I live in Canada, lol

This is why I dislike buying things online...

how much was shipping to canada?

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Originally Posted by canuckavelli View Post
 

how much was shipping to canada?


$10

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Originally Posted by gahung View Post

But isn't the Q701 a downgrade in this case? I am looking for one that is in par with HE 400 while shines in mids and probably the soundstage. How is the K712 compared to Q701?

 



The Q701 is a much more versatile and natural sounding headphone that doesn't have any major weaknesses like the HE400 has. I sold my HE400 after getting a Q701 for less than half of what I paid for the HE400.
Hi, I end up getting a dt990 250 ohm because from DavidMahler's post he thinks that he400 is dt 990's complement. Hope I can keep these two for a long time. My next phone will be a high end so maybe the HE6 if I have enough money for an expensive amp, but I guess he400 is good enough for now.
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Originally Posted by Mani ATH 87 View Post
 



Indeed! It's nice that they work with the other headphones in the series, though I have no plans on upgrading from the HE 400's at the moment :)

I went ahead and ordered the focus pads (the stock pads that ship with the 560)

I'll leave some impressions once they arrive.


I don't have any immediate upgrade plans either, although a lighter HE-400 would be welcome (400i?). Had to stretch to get the 400s at $299 late last year (my introduction to the HFM PM sound), so a jump to a full price upgrade will have to be carefully considered, as will any high-end phone.

 

Hope the focus pads work for you. I find them relatively comfortable with the velour just slightly scratchy.

 

In the meantime my HD600 provides a counterpoint to the high end prominence of the 400s. That's probably another reason I preferred the focus over the focus-a. Focus-a smooths out the 400s almost to the point of emulating the 600 and I don't need two mid-tier HPs with a similar sound signature.

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Still rocking my 400s out of my Demon avr-1613 and am using the creative eq for my auzen forte sound card...still amazed. Shatter Me by Halestorm and Lindsey is amazing. New Mushroom head is awesom. I broke in my pleather pads and now prefer them. My velour pads are crap...softer but stiffer foam and seams coming apart. Anyone not using their pleathers wanna sell em to me cheap?
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