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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post
 

One thing I should remember is for awhile I was under the impression, couldn't begin to tell you where I heard/read it, that current receivers generally have horrid headphone capabilities, at least compared to vintage receivers.  Doing some reading just now, and it turns out there's a chance my stereo might actually be an exception.  Going to do some more reading first, but when I get home I'll have to test out my HK 3480 and really put it to work.


I'm thinking that is based on the vintage amps/receivers headphone out doing direct off the amplifier via a resistor network while the newer units have Opamps. 

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I think I read it's feeding off the amp, yes
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First impressions are very promising. I absolutely adore Wicked on these babies.

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Originally Posted by canuckavelli View Post


I'm buying them used from someone. And they said the plastic ring in the cup which the pad/ring hooks on to came off.

He said he just hooks it to the lip inside the cup now.


You can contact HiFiMan and buy new earpad lock-in rings and ask for slower postage for a cheaper total price or ask user Modulor on here (search his name with @ in front on the search bar up top) if he has spare rings....he made custom earpads so may have some lying around.

He is in USA and I'm guessing you are in Canada...but from China may be fastest.

 

Regarding vintage amps, you may lose on dynamics if the capacitors have dried out over time. My vintage stuff local place advised me against one of his amps due to lack of dynamics as there were very old caps inside.

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My HE-400s arrived earlier this evening and it sure does feel good to add them back to my collection. The memories of getting my first pair came flooding back as soon as I hooked them up and hit play. The shock of going from the Ultrasone Pro 900s to the HE-400s is incredible. They sound so different (not necessarily better or worse and, if I'm being honest, they sounded pretty bad during that stage of readjustment). Thankfully, it didn't take long at all to get right back into them and remember exactly what I loved about them before. They're a great set of headphones. :) The Pro 900s are excellent, too, but it is nice to have something with a different flavor.

 

It was weird because I had the same reaction when I was caught off guard by the seemingly weak bass. It's exactly what I went through on my first pair. I can't remember if I had done something wrong, if they were faulty, or if I just had to adjust to the different bass quality/quantity. All I know is that, after a short amount of time, I was thoroughly impressed by the HE-400's bass performance. I'm going to stay away from the Pro 900s for a while so I can get fully indulge in these new babies. They sound so freaking nice as they are and I haven't even swapped the pads to the velours that were included, done the grill mod, or set up any EQ in JRiver Media Center.

 

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Edit: I just installed JRiver Media Center on my desktop (I forgot that I never reinstalled it after reinstalling Windows 8.1 when I set up my RAID0 for the boot drive) and imported my music. After a couple of strategic cuts in the EQ, the HE-400s are back on top and rocking my socks off. My goodness, they're phenomenal! I listened to Beck's Morning three or four times and loved every second of it. I want to be listening to them right now but I've got to pretend to go to bed so I can get up for work in the morning. :p

 

I did some quick comparisons before I put them away for the night between the Schiit Magni and the FiiO E09K with the Modi as the DAC and I was surprised at how much I prefer the Magni. I love the E09K on my Pro 900s but the Magni seems to play nicer with the HE-400s. I did this before installing JRiver and adjusting the EQ, though. Either way, I'm really starting to like the Schiit stack and I love how responsive the HE-400s are to EQ tweaks. What a great combo!


Edited by LarryKingsShoes - 7/16/14 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by Lohb View Post


You can contact HiFiMan and buy new earpad lock-in rings and ask for slower postage for a cheaper total price or ask user Modulor on here (search his name with @ in front on the search bar up top) if he has spare rings....he made custom earpads so may have some lying around.
He is in USA and I'm guessing you are in Canada...but from China may be fastest.

Regarding vintage amps, you may lose on dynamics if the capacitors have dried out over time. My vintage stuff local place advised me against one of his amps due to lack of dynamics as there were very old caps inside.

You're taking about the lock ring inside the cup right? Not the one with the pad. How would I attach it once I get it? Superglue?
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Originally Posted by canuckavelli View Post


You're taking about the lock ring inside the cup right? Not the one with the pad. How would I attach it once I get it? Superglue?


Sent you info on repair....Modulor would not have spare locking rings. My mistake.

What I mean by buying from China is I read US to Canada post can be super slow sometimes.

Send HFM a photo of what you need as there is no published terminology for some HFM internal spare parts I think...


Edited by Lohb - 7/16/14 at 7:43pm
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Received my hybrid and velour pads today. Haven't had the chance to A-B them but I really like the feel of the hybrid pads. I don't know if the sound has changed, but I certainly don't think it's gotten any worse.

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compared to my x5, the modi has slightly rolled off treble which is great for the he400.  And just got my focus pad A today.  They are super comfortable, more so than the velors!

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Hello HE-400 gurus! :)

 

I'm new to the forum and was asking opinions in the "Help and Getting Started" thread when it was suggested I visit you all here. I haven't had the opportunity to listen to a pair of HE-400s, but, according to my searches, they should fit the bill for a pair of headphones for what I listen to (metal, EDM) and are in my budget (under $400).

 

To not completely repost my initial post, I'll cut to the chase:

 

I NEED my new headphones to be able to play the bass lines in Marilyn Manson's Spade without making Metallica's Ride the Lightning album sound like I'm hearing it through a sea of cotton balls. Skull liquifying bass during Gemini's Blue is something that would be "really-awesomely-bad-ass-and-I'm-willing-to-pay-extra-for-it-if-it-doesn't-subtract-from-my-other-needs," but is not a requirement. How do the HE-400s do with those specific songs?

 

Any and all help is appreciated, thanks guys!

 

P.S. If anyone in the Las Vegas area has HE-400s I can listen to, I'll buy lunch!

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Out of the original HE-400 pleather, current HFM velour, focus, and focus-a pads, am leaning to the focus pads after listening and comparing for a few hours this morning. Equipment is an Uber Bifrost DAC and Vali amp. The sound stage seems widest and the bass seems most prominent (nice bass join-in slam on Led Zep's Bron-Y-Aur Stomp for instance) with the focus pads. Vocals are a little more sibilant with focus but nothing really objectionable.

 

The seams on both the focus and focus-a line up at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock facing the pad openings on the left and right cups, respectively, with the thickest part of the pads to the back.

 

Still working on the rank order of the other pads but none sounded totally awful making discriminating difficult overall.

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I've been using the HE400 for about a month, but they are IMO not a versatile phone. I mainly listen to pop and classical and I feel like HE400 does pretty bad in this area. So I wonder if I need to get another headphone that can beat the 400 in these two genres. At the same time, I bought a Lyr to see if it works better than Asgard with the 400. I may end up getting HD650 but I heard from people that these two phones are similar. Any one have any idea?

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Originally Posted by gahung View Post
 

I've been using the HE400 for about a month, but they are IMO not a versatile phone. I mainly listen to pop and classical and I feel like HE400 does pretty bad in this area. So I wonder if I need to get another headphone that can beat the 400 in these two genres. At the same time, I bought a Lyr to see if it works better than Asgard with the 400. I may end up getting HD650 but I heard from people that these two phones are similar. Any one have any idea?

I would be curious about this as well. I would eventually like to get another set of open cans and have been thinking of trying either the HD600 or the Q701 to see if they complement the HE400.

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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post
 

I would be curious about this as well. I would eventually like to get another set of open cans and have been thinking of trying either the HD600 or the Q701 to see if they complement the HE400.

But isn't the Q701 a downgrade in this case? I am looking for one that is in par with HE 400 while shines in mids and probably the soundstage. How is the K712 compared to Q701?

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Originally Posted by BBCInc View Post
 

Out of the original HE-400 pleather, current HFM velour, focus, and focus-a pads, am leaning to the focus pads after listening and comparing for a few hours this morning. Equipment is an Uber Bifrost DAC and Vali amp. The sound stage seems widest and the bass seems most prominent (nice bass join-in slam on Led Zep's Bron-Y-Aur Stomp for instance) with the focus pads. Vocals are a little more sibilant with focus but nothing really objectionable.

 

The seams on both the focus and focus-a line up at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock facing the pad openings on the left and right cups, respectively, with the thickest part of the pads to the back.

 

Still working on the rank order of the other pads but none sounded totally awful making discriminating difficult overall.

 

Great feedback on the pads! I'm trying to decide which to get myself.

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