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post #17506 of 18149

Yes they are, from Head-Direct for $39.

 

http://head-direct.com/Products/

 

top left item.


Edited by BBCInc - 6/30/14 at 1:15am
post #17507 of 18149

What are these? A commercial Jergpad version? :)

post #17508 of 18149

Honestly the main issue I had with pleathers were that they get hot as hell. Velours were also uncomfortable for me since the foam was hard, but I do believe I preferred the velours over the pleathers. Have been using Alpha Pads for awhile now though so don't exactly recall what the differences were.

 

Does anyone know whether I'd hear a huge difference connecting an amp to my current DragonFly v1.2? Like the Asgard 2 or something. Thinking of getting an amp for when I do eventually get better headphones so I can reap the benefits now in the meantime. Looking to upgrade to the 400i actually since it apparently improves on pretty much everything I wanted improved as far as I'm reading, esp. comfort and treble. Waiting for more reviews though.

 

On another note, I did demo the HD 650s and the main strength of that headphone compared to the HE-400 were largely its comfort and the beauuuuuutiful female vocals. Didn't like it for much else though; expected to love it considering I like more rolled off treble generally, but I was quite wrong, especially after EQing the HE-400 extensively. Granted, I did listen to it out of the DF connected to my Note 3 and the environment wasn't as quiet as it could have been (BestBuy Magnolia area). May be entirely different when amped, but I don't know because BB has yet to install a headphone amp section (though I've gotten reports from the employees that they will be doing that in some areas soon, e.g. the one I went to). Sounded weird as hell though for Eminem.


Edited by AyeVeeN - 6/29/14 at 6:52am
post #17509 of 18149
Hmm... I must admit, those earpads look nice
post #17510 of 18149

Anyone try the HE400 with those 560 hybrid pads?

post #17511 of 18149

I will do so when I get my 560s back.

post #17512 of 18149
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Originally Posted by AyeVeeN View Post
 

 

On another note, I did demo the HD 650s and the main strength of that headphone compared to the HE-400 were largely its comfort and the beauuuuuutiful female vocals. Didn't like it for much else though; expected to love it considering I like more rolled off treble generally, but I was quite wrong, especially after EQing the HE-400 extensively. Granted, I did listen to it out of the DF connected to my Note 3 and the environment wasn't as quiet as it could have been (BestBuy Magnolia area). May be entirely different when amped, but I don't know because BB has yet to install a headphone amp section (though I've gotten reports from the employees that they will be doing that in some areas soon, e.g. the one I went to). Sounded weird as hell though for Eminem.

I own both HE400 and later bought HD650 and I love them both. Not only HD650 is more comfy for long period of listening but they also sound thicker and fuller than HE400. When I listen to HE400 I tend to raise the vol to louder to get the full sounding music in my head while with HD650 I don't have to. HE400 has bigger sound stage and of course crystal clear quality which everyone loves. On both instrument separation are about equally good. Another plus for HD650 for me is they don't leak sound out as much and are able to produce bass quantity that you can hear and feel even at a noisy/ outdoor environment, almost as if they were close cans. With HE400 I have to be in a super quiet room to get the most out of it. And I like the pleather better coz it's softer on your cheek and they sound warmer and more intimate. Also, the vocals sound more natural less sibiliant.

 

Btw, I'm surprise you can actually get to demo headphones at Magnolia. There are three stores around where I live and they all suck! None of them work and the staff couldn't care less.

post #17513 of 18149

got mine in... made mistake of listening to chemical brothers first with C&C BH.. was worried till I put something  more musical on and then was much happier... just saving up for a proper amp now (schiit)

post #17514 of 18149

I think I'll go ahead and order those hybrid pads and give them a try. I like the velour but if those hybrids are similar to the jergpads then they should help a bit with the harsh treble. Not bad for the price either.

post #17515 of 18149
Does anyone know where to buy those pads in Europe?
post #17516 of 18149
Just got an email from Hifiman -- hybrid 560 earpads are on 2-3 day backorder.
post #17517 of 18149

Interested in the people getting the new pads what they think? I think the velour pads are ok, but interested in additional comfort.

post #17518 of 18149

Hi,

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post #17519 of 18149
Thread Starter 
Thank you sir!
post #17520 of 18149

I've been reading so many replies and reviews how the O2, Magni and Vali sound the same. After weeks of listening to all of them, (yes I have them all) they are all not exactly the same . I've been using the same music with the HE-400 and all else in the system is the same and have only changed the amps. Started with O2, then went to Magni. Yes the Magni and O2 sound very close. The Magni does sound a tad processed and thin compared to O2 but the Magni does have more authority as it is more powerful in comparison even though they all seem to struggle reproducing the source with the HE-400.

Then I went to the Vali. The Vali sounds nothing like the others. It's slightly more smoother and warmer, more of a natural sound but ever so slightly, and more realistic sounding. I was enjoying it very much for weeks. Then I decided to get the Asgard 2. Why? I read so much about it I just had to try it. The Vali also seem to struggle reproducing the source which makes sense as it's less powerful of the bunch.

I have to say the Asgard 2 is is not like any of the others. Why have some said there is no difference? I'm suspecting what is happening is that people are not using high resolution (or not high enough resolution) tracks or can distinguish the difference OR they just don't hear the difference due to their hearing biology. As a side note: I also did an electronic spectrum hearing test to verify my hearing at different frequencies to eliminate that factor, and I passed 100%.

The Asgard 2 with the HE-400 sound way more detailed, realistic, bassier, deeper, smoother and wider is the best way to explain it with all else in the system being the same.

So for anyone that is thinking about the Asgard 2 with the HE-400, YES it's worth it. The others are a good start, but You WILL hear a difference with respect to what was mentioned above about headphones, music quality rate and biology with better amps. This combo, sounds like an actual amp, it sounds "real" while the others mentioned sound like they're struggling to making an effort to process the sound.

I hope this helps anyone who maybe interested in how the HE-400 responds to different amps.

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