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post #17386 of 18082
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 3) If you listen only to classical, I do not think you will find them "ideal".

 

MrMateoHead,

 

...in terms of excessive treble?

post #17387 of 18082
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post

MrMateoHead,

...in terms of excessive treble?

You ask if I was sensitive to peaks.....I am sensitive to sibilance and shrillness. I have not ever felt negative effects to the treble on the HE-400. I do not have jergmod pads, only have velour and stock. When the new hifiman pads come out but I am good.
post #17388 of 18082

subguy812,

 

Thank you.

Are you using any dedicated amplifier for your HE-400?

post #17389 of 18082
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post

subguy812,

Thank you.
Are you using any dedicated amplifier for your HE-400?

I only have a portable setup. I have used my X3 alone, I have used my FiiO E11 with the X3. I have also used my X5 alone and with the E11. The X5 and E11 are my favorite. The X3 powers the HE-400 better than the X5 when using either dap alone, but it clearly benefits from the amp.
Edited by subguy812 - 5/26/14 at 6:37pm
post #17390 of 18082
 

 

amigomatt,

 

Before you started to use EQ, have you had a wish to take the headphones off your head or turn the volume down when brass instruments or female soprano start their part?

 

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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post


I listen mainly to large scale orchestral music and am a semi pro trumpeter. I can confirm your suspicions about the tizzy presentation of brass through the HE400s, but it's very recording dependent. That upper sheen can also affect string tones as well, but having EQd them, the problem no longer exists for me and the advantages of these amazing headphones do outweigh the treble issues for me. I wasn't happy with me HE400s for a while until I started using EQ.

 

Unless listening to a particularly bright recording at higher volumes, I never quite felt the need to take them off or drastically lower the volume, it was just an added sheen to the tones of certain timbres that gave them a unnatural edge.  Exactly like turning 7-10khz right up on an EQ.  The core, fundamental sounds were great, but the treble spiked enhanced what shoudl've been natural overtones that go unnoticed usually into a noticeably audible glare.  On older recordings with no so much upper frequency resolution or detail, brasses sounded fine, like on old soul funk records.  It's more often modern, wider frequency ranged recordings that suffered.  Along with modded jergpads, I have the EQ on my Asus Xonar Essence looking something like this and they sound amazing on just about anything and everything now - so textured and vivid:

 


Edited by amigomatt - 5/27/14 at 2:27pm
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Has anyone tried the silver replacement cables from China. I was wondering if they improve the sound from the original cable.
Are there any reasonably priced cables that help with the sibilance?
post #17392 of 18082
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Originally Posted by underwoodken123 View Post

Has anyone tried the silver replacement cables from China. I was wondering if they improve the sound from the original cable.
Are there any reasonably priced cables that help with the sibilance?

 

Coat-hangers dipped in mayonnaise.

post #17393 of 18082
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Originally Posted by underwoodken123 View Post

Has anyone tried the silver replacement cables from China. I was wondering if they improve the sound from the original cable.
Are there any reasonably priced cables that help with the sibilance?


There are faster easier ways to deal with 400's "issues". Check out post 1 and EQ settings in the thread.

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Really not comfortable @@@@@@@@
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zbdajj View Post

Really not comfortable @@@@@@@@

Do you mean the clamp, the weight or the pads? 

 

*The clamp is easily adjusted by carefully bending/reshaping the metal headband. 

 

*The weight is something that most people get used to after a few days (if I can do it anyone can)

 

*Some people find the velour pads itchy. If so, then switch to the pleather. 

 

Matt

post #17396 of 18082
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

 

MrMateoHead,

 

...in terms of excessive treble?


In terms of them not being neutral.

post #17397 of 18082
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post


In terms of them not being neutral.

 

MrMateoHead,

 

Maybe it depends on the amplification?

Although the impedance of HE-400 is constant, the amplifier which emphasizes the treble could help, don't you think so?

 

Would you call then HD650 more neutral-sounding headphones?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lohb View Post


There are faster easier ways to deal with 400's "issues". Check out post 1 and EQ settings in the thread.

 

Lohb,

 

Could you give some advice to people using CDP as their source on the "ways to deal with 400's "issues""?

(When applying EQ is not possible)

post #17398 of 18082
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

 

MrMateoHead,

 

Maybe it depends on the amplification?

Although the impedance of HE-400 is constant, the amplifier which emphasizes the treble could help, don't you think so?

 

Would you call then HD650 more neutral-sounding headphones?

It does not.

 

And, I do not know about the 650s.

post #17399 of 18082

Yes I would call HD650 more neutral.

post #17400 of 18082
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

 

MrMateoHead,

 

Maybe it depends on the amplification?

Although the impedance of HE-400 is constant, the amplifier which emphasizes the treble could help, don't you think so?

 

Would you call then HD650 more neutral-sounding headphones?

 

 

 

Lohb,

 

Could you give some advice to people using CDP as their source on the "ways to deal with 400's "issues""?

(When applying EQ is not possible)


In your set-up, it comes down to CBA....cost benefits analysis....there is a thing I call "The box" it is a small 2 inch by one inch or so hardware EQ that was open sourced on another forum which is basically like a small hardware equivalent of a parametric equalisers but then you have to weigh up the total cost vs just buying a used pair of 500's and be done with it.It never really gained traction as I have only seen one guy pairing it to lower end Superlux on this forum...the designer says he made it because he always felt parametric EQ introduced artifacts into the background.

There are guys who build "The box" but because they are one-off made for your cans specific sound curve problems, it might be $80+ postage.

 

 

P.S Anyone looking to take their 400's the low-powered speaker amp route (25-40 watts @ 8 ohms) and release the bass beast.... I have a set of my 3 cables up for sale next 4 weeks.

Litz type 2 cryo-occ copper

SMC to 4-XLR

XLR to speaker taps

XLR to sensible nickel plated (vs fast wearing pretty gold plate) 3'5" SE plug

The conversion kit will be about a hard 50% off the retail price of the cable company's ready-made stuff. PM for details.


Edited by Lohb - 5/29/14 at 8:37pm
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