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Go for the modi vali combo

 

Thanks :) Buying it now.

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Originally Posted by xenaxance View Post
i asked for the best way to smoothen those spikes.. i dont think EQs are the best way.. well i haven't tried them either :D

If you are not going to EQ for the 400 spikes, then the best way is to buy 500's that will smooth them out 4sure......

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Or be like me where the spoke doesn't bother you biggrin.gif
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Or be like me where the spoke doesn't bother you biggrin.gif

 

I've never been bothered by spokes. 

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Originally Posted by xenaxance View Post
 

 

i asked for the best way to smoothen those spikes.. i dont think EQs are the best way.. well i haven't tried them either :D

 

EQ is most definitely the best way (most accurate) to smooth out the peaks. It allows you more precision to flatten the specific areas you find bothersome. 

 

Sure there are people, like myself originally, who aren't/weren't too fond of using EQ but I quickly realized that I can get the sound exactly how I like it, so I went for it and couldn't be any happier.

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^^ Props to you Beaver for your EQ work on this thread. 

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Or be like me where the spoke doesn't bother you biggrin.gif


I used to put cards in my spokes when I was young I thought they made a cool sound when I rode my bike....:wink_face:

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I could get HE400s for 270 euros new. Will E10 do well enough with these phones? I see 700 mW-1000 mW output power recommendations and E10 can do only 150 mW...

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Thread Starter 

It will sound pretty decent. You can always upgrade to a better amp later. 

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^^ Props to you Beaver for your EQ work on this thread. 

 

Most praise should go towards nicholars, he imo created the best treble fix eq setting, mine is just a slight alteration to his.

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TMRaven,

MattTCG, 

subguy812,

 

Are you sensitive to treble peaks?

 

nicholars,

TontonJoK,

 

I wouldn't like to use analog EQ to be honest, while it is impossible to use digital one as the source I am using is CDP. It's not an option for me.

So I would like to understand whether HE-400 would be a waste of money for a treble-sensitive person who's not using EQ.

I also wouldn't like to mod the brand new (and my first ones) HiFi headphones - I'd like to enjoy them out of the box.

 

I start to feel HD6xx is a lower risk..

 

amigomatt,

 

Before you started to use EQ, have you had a wish to take the headphones off your head or turn the volume down when brass instruments or female soprano start their part?

 

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I listen mainly to large scale orchestral music and am a semi pro trumpeter. I can confirm your suspicions about the tizzy presentation of brass through the HE400s, but it's very recording dependent. That upper sheen can also affect string tones as well, but having EQd them, the problem no longer exists for me and the advantages of these amazing headphones do outweigh the treble issues for me. I wasn't happy with me HE400s for a while until I started using EQ.

 

Sasasd,

 

I am not sure I have the right to say that, as I don't own HE-400, but from technical point of view that's bullsh*t.

Sensitivity of HE-400 is 92dB/mW, meaning 1mW into 35 Ohm will grant you 92 dB of SPL.

 

And to reach 100dB you will only need 6,3mW, which makes amplification levels of 700-1000mW (120,4 and 122dB) useless, unless, of course, you wich to use them as speakers.

 

Here, to my mind, there is a different problem - not to buy an amp which will give you too much amplification for your headphones, otherwise you'll end up having problems while trying to adjust the volume, as there will be a HUGE difference between, say, 5o and 6o of the volume knob position.

 

But again, it just my technical opinion. I haven't had such problems and I don't own HiFiMAN yet.

 

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Gain (dB) = 10*log(power supplied/1mW)
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Power required (mW) = 1 (mW) * 10^((desired SPL - sensitivity)/10)

 

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Originally Posted by Sasasd View Post
 

I could get HE400s for 270 euros new. Will E10 do well enough with these phones? I see 700 mW-1000 mW output power recommendations and E10 can do only 150 mW...


Edited by U6astik - 5/25/14 at 9:39am
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Will the dacmagic xs drive the he-400 decently? Will it provide a loud sound?
Does anyone know?
Or can anyone even guess?
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It claims to put out 150mW, but doesn't specify into how many ohms. I'm curious if you're after it because of its portable size, if so I imagine there are better options for the $190 it costs.
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I already bought it and cant return it. I am trying to get the most out of it. Plugging my ath-m50 to it and to a laptop's onboard audio produces the same sound quality, which is a let-down.
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Well, it does seem to be able to do 24/192 at least. I'd worry that it'd produce an underwhelming sound with the he-400, but then again I've liked it using a Fiio E6.
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