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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

The HE-400 has quite a bit of energy in the upper treble region of 10-14khz.  It can get very problematic for a lot of pop and hot recordings and vocals, bit's it's not a huge deal at all for classical/orchestral.  The small 1khz hump in the HE-400 doesn't affect its overall sound too much at all.  However the bite of brass instrumetns and female opera might seem a little subdued because it's colored to have a recessed upper midrange/lower treble in the area of 3-5khz.  This makes a lot of orchestral music sound like you're sitting far away in the back rows.

 

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TMRaven,

 

Thank you for your answer.

To be honest, I have no experience with headphones having recessed treble, I usually had the contrary problems.

It is pleasant to know the 1kHz peak does not affect the sound of HE-400 badly.

 

So, would you personally rate them as good headphones for classical? Or headphones like HE-300, HD600 or HD650 will be a better choice for that type of music?

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Instrumental and orchestral is one of my favorite genres for HE-400, that's just me though.

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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

TMRaven,

 

Thank you for your answer.

To be honest, I have no experience with headphones having recessed treble, I usually had the contrary problems.

It is pleasant to know the 1kHz peak does not affect the sound of HE-400 badly.

 

So, would you personally rate them as good headphones for classical? Or headphones like HE-300, HD600 or HD650 will be a better choice for that type of music?

 

I have had the hd650 for two years and many other hp's. Unless you want to spend large money, the he400 is very good with classical. 

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TMRaven,

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

MattTCG,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

By talking about spending large amount of money, do you refer to HD6xx?

And, if I get it right, especially to the amplification costs?

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It might sound funny, but I intended to connect HD6xx (in case I go for them) to my CDP headphone output (Onkyo agents told me the voltage output of my player is 2V into 600 Ohm).

 

Sorry for being blunt, but have you heard HE-400 with classical music yourself or it is an opinion of other people?

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^^ I owned the he400 for two years. While I would not say that classical is my primary genre, I do enjoy it quite a bit.  I usually listen to the Brahms Symphonies, Ann Akkiko Myers, YoYo Ma, Haydn and others. 

 

The only hp that I owned personally or auditioned that I liked better with classical is the hd800 which was clearly better in every regard. 

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MattTCG,

 

Thank you.

I am happy to know people like the sound of HE-400 with classical music.

 

However, for me personally, it is still difficult to make a decision between HD6xx and HE400.

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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

MattTCG,

 

Thank you.

I am happy to know people like the sound of HE-400 with classical music.

 

However, for me personally, it is still difficult to make a decision between HD6xx and HE400.

 

No need for that, just get both. :D  Seriously, at the current price point of the $299, truly peanuts for this kind of performance, you should have both. Or get one first and then add the other later. 

 

I'm listening to Chloe Hanslip with the London Symphony Orchestra as I type this. The real key is the Crack amp for this chain. And OMG is it good. 

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MattTCG,

 

I agree with you :wink_face:

The only question is which to get first :D

 

Anyway, soon I'll be able to visit a HiFi shop in London to audition HD6xx and make a decision based on my impressions.

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^^ Perfect. Let me know how it turns out. 

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I can't say I enjoy classical on my 400, love it on the hd700 tho.
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

I can't say I enjoy classical on my 400, love it on the hd700 tho.

 

Saoshyant,

 

Oh, pity.

Any sertain reasons you feel they don't excel at classics?

post #17353 of 17943
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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

TMRaven,

 

Thank you for your answer.

To be honest, I have no experience with headphones having recessed treble, I usually had the contrary problems.

It is pleasant to know the 1kHz peak does not affect the sound of HE-400 badly.

 

So, would you personally rate them as good headphones for classical? Or headphones like HE-300, HD600 or HD650 will be a better choice for that type of music?

 

The peak does affect the sound of the HE400, it also has some ringing in that area, you can fix the problem with pad mods and EQ.

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I find it amazing that this thread is so active for 2 years. There are not many other threads that have sustained like this. I think it is a testament to a great hp.

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Originally Posted by U6astik View Post
 

 

Saoshyant,

 

Oh, pity.

Any sertain reasons you feel they don't excel at classics?


I am listening to classical as I type....certainly no issues here with it.

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