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post #17266 of 18322
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Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

I  have to disagree:

my LG G2, or my Laptop also can drive the HE400 loud enough, the iBasso DX90 also can. But they don't drive these cans with enough authority. Loudness is not everything. Orthos love power, the more they get the better.

 

But LG g2 and laptop are not even as good as a sansa clip+ probably, the HE400 are designed for low power use, look on the hifiman website if you don't believe me, everything you said there are generalisations which do not really apply to the HE400.


Edited by nicholars - 5/13/14 at 8:24am
post #17267 of 18322
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Originally Posted by TontonJoK View Post

My xonar essence st is capable to drive my He 400 with authority but my other amp are doing a better job beyersmile.png

 

You are probably right but I doubt it is a massive difference with the HE400 like it would be with some headphones.

post #17268 of 18322
that's right, before getting a better amp for the Hifiman I was using the amplified ouput of the xonar, and the sound was good enough

In sound it's rare to get massive differences with an amp as long as it is able to handle the phones
post #17269 of 18322
My fostex t50rp also makes noise when I plug it into an iPod also. But it's less impressive than with an amp much like the he400
post #17270 of 18322

The T50RP really needs amped to get their full potential. And Speaking of T50RP, I just got mine put back together this morning after being disassembled for a couple weeks for a makeover :D

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I love showing off my mods. Oh, and I can use my Hifiman cables with them now too! I guess I'll include that last bit to make it relevant to this thread. Haha

post #17271 of 18322

Anyone else find the soundstage to be noticeably smaller on velour pads? Maybe its because mids have a lot more body to them and overall sound is smoother and dare i say darker. Thats weird though, that i find pleather to have brighter sound with a larger soundstage right? I could almost swear that bass is much fuller too, i havent done any excessive A/B testing yet cause im still adjusting to the he-400s sound signature. These are brand new and seen around 20hours of music as of now. Do the highs tame during burn in? These are a bit too sibilant to my taste, less than dt990/250 though.

 

I may need better amp too, broke my o2 and running them out of udac3 now.

post #17272 of 18322

Try the jerg pads mod if you are confident enough to do some modding. For me it helped tame the treble and brought out the upper mids. Still have sibilance but it is a lot better than in the past when with plain velours. Otherwise maybe try some eq.

post #17273 of 18322
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

I  have to disagree:

my LG G2, or my Laptop also can drive the HE400 loud enough, the iBasso DX90 also can. But they don't drive these cans with enough authority. Loudness is not everything. Orthos love power, the more they get the better.

 

But LG g2 and laptop are not even as good as a sansa clip+ probably, the HE400 are designed for low power use, look on the hifiman website if you don't believe me, everything you said there are generalisations which do not really apply to the HE400.


In aware of what they say on their site, and still. They exaggerate saying that an ipod can drive these cans. I mean, they can, you will hear music that's for sure but only amped they will come to their full potential. That's the nature of planars. The NAD VISO HP50 for example had almost similar specs and doesn't profit at all from amazing. I trust my ears on this, unamped the HE400 just doesn't sound this good. You don't need an good amp, but you definitely need one

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post #17274 of 18322

I got my pair yesterday, for 150€ used they seemed like a real bargain for me so I jumped into them. Currently enjoying the sound a lot, I was leaning towards a more bright signature, but this cans have the detail and the clarity also adding some fun to the overall sound.

post #17275 of 18322
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Originally Posted by newskin View Post
 

I got my pair yesterday, for 150€ used they seemed like a real bargain for me so I jumped into them. Currently enjoying the sound a lot, I was leaning towards a more bright signature, but this cans have the detail and the clarity also adding some fun to the overall sound.

 

150 euros is crazy low. Nice find.

post #17276 of 18322
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Originally Posted by Netforce View Post
 

Try the jerg pads mod if you are confident enough to do some modding. For me it helped tame the treble and brought out the upper mids. Still have sibilance but it is a lot better than in the past when with plain velours. Otherwise maybe try some eq.

I looked into that and i might give it a shot. How far did you mod yours, im wondering if its enough just to make those extra holes and trim the rubber flaps without going further? I dont want to sacrifice my velours, they are darn expensive in here(eu), 35 bucks shipped. eq is the last resort i suppose.

post #17277 of 18322

hello....

 

i need some advice from hifiman he-400 users...

i've been using grado sr60 for many many years now... i'm going to upgrade, and my clear choice goes to shure 940 initially. but after reading some more and found out that everybody and their dogs and their dog's friends have issues about the headbands... i'm starting to look at other options as well...

 

for many reasons, my current situations will only allow me to have 1 pair of headphones for the foreseeable future (3 to 4 years time). and this headphone will most likely be my only source of entertainment for that period of time (there will be no TV no Games no Bluray for me, just this future headphone / my old grado SR60 / and an audio player).

 

the headphones will be used specifically for these genres... (female vocals / indie folk / jazz / accoustics / strings).

 

so my consideration only comes to 2 things,

A) it has to be an upgrade in sound compared to my grado sr60

B) it have to last long (which i initially thought was a non-issue because of my daily-beaten yet still very much alive grado)

 

compare to other brands... hifiman he-400 is very nicely priced here, i can get it for ~$370, is it a good headphone to consider as my alternative of shure 940...?

from reading the reviews i've heard that he-400 must be driven with an amp. is that true?

i think i can set aside ~$130~$150 for an amp... the only option available for that price here is JDSLabs Objective2 and Fiio E12, will this be sufficient?

i won't buy DAC for at least a year or two though... so will the amp be enough to drive he-400 and is it a good option for me to consider?

 

ps: i can't audition the he-400 so i'm asking here... :)

 

 

cheers...

post #17278 of 18322

I have the 80i and the 400's- the HE-400 is much better IMO- better bass, air, soundstage especially for the genres you listen to which are mainly mine as well. Grado's are great but sound so small compared to the HE-400.

Buy one used for under $250 that way if you disagree you can resell for little loss.

post #17279 of 18322
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Originally Posted by sammy123 View Post
 

I looked into that and i might give it a shot. How far did you mod yours, im wondering if its enough just to make those extra holes and trim the rubber flaps without going further? I dont want to sacrifice my velours, they are darn expensive in here(eu), 35 bucks shipped. eq is the last resort i suppose.

Yeah I pretty much made some holes, trimmed some excess (accidentally trimmed a bit too much on one side), added some double sided tape to the vents, and spacers in the back. The last two parts really came down to preference and took a bit of extra work so may not be for everyone. And ouch sounds a bit pricey in the eu lol

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Originally Posted by rovopio View Post
 

hello....

 

i need some advice from hifiman he-400 users...

i've been using grado sr60 for many many years now... i'm going to upgrade, and my clear choice goes to shure 940 initially. but after reading some more and found out that everybody and their dogs and their dog's friends have issues about the headbands... i'm starting to look at other options as well...

 

for many reasons, my current situations will only allow me to have 1 pair of headphones for the foreseeable future (3 to 4 years time). and this headphone will most likely be my only source of entertainment for that period of time (there will be no TV no Games no Bluray for me, just this future headphone / my old grado SR60 / and an audio player).

 

the headphones will be used specifically for these genres... (female vocals / indie folk / jazz / accoustics / strings).

 

so my consideration only comes to 2 things,

A) it has to be an upgrade in sound compared to my grado sr60

B) it have to last long (which i initially thought was a non-issue because of my daily-beaten yet still very much alive grado)

 

compare to other brands... hifiman he-400 is very nicely priced here, i can get it for ~$370, is it a good headphone to consider as my alternative of shure 940...?

from reading the reviews i've heard that he-400 must be driven with an amp. is that true?

i think i can set aside ~$130~$150 for an amp... the only option available for that price here is JDSLabs Objective2 and Fiio E12, will this be sufficient?

i won't buy DAC for at least a year or two though... so will the amp be enough to drive he-400 and is it a good option for me to consider?

 

ps: i can't audition the he-400 so i'm asking here... :)

 

 

cheers...

The he-400 really benefit from an amp but for me my other devices like my phone, 3ds, vita I can get to decent volumes without maxing out. If you can I would recommend it, if you really need the money for the future you will be fine without one. If you are used to the treble on the grados I would say the he-400 would work very well for you. Haven't heard/read much about the shures so couldn't comment on the difference between the two.

post #17280 of 18322
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
 

I have the 80i and the 400's- the HE-400 is much better IMO- better bass, air, soundstage especially for the genres you listen to which are mainly mine as well. Grado's are great but sound so small compared to the HE-400.

Buy one used for under $250 that way if you disagree you can resell for little loss.


i dont live in the US or Europe so selling is a bit problematic. i mostly listen to local japanese jazz / japanese folk. but some western musics i listened to are slow club / ani di franco / frightened rabbit / rachael yamagata / mumford & sons (only the sigh no more song at 2:23), i think it's good for reference...

 

do you listen to any of those...?

 

how about the amps...?

i think i can get schiit magni directly from schiit, but customs and shipping will make me in the end have to pay double. so i wont have budget for DAC. is it sufficient to just run he-400 and amp without DAC?

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