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post #17251 of 17748

You mean you took off the ear pads and removed the thin acoustic transparent material that covers the planar elements? Aren't you worried you'll damage the drivers? I think that at the very least would void the HiFiMAN warranty. Listening to Blood on the Tracks...

post #17252 of 17748

Who are you directing that towards? If it's me, I bought my pair off someone and they didn't include the black cloths in the sale. I just emailed Hifiman about ordering some and the left side blue headband piece that is damaged. Waiting on a response.

post #17253 of 17748
Oh, no just the fabric on the outer grill, Spoke to hifiman In regards to that, no voided warrantee as long as the drivers are not removed from the cups, the outer grills and earpads are user serviceable parts so it's ok
post #17254 of 17748

Nope, not you my man.

post #17255 of 17748

I don't know, man. I think I'll let discretion be the better part of valor. I don't see how that mod would improve soundstage. Get an amp with a crossfeed circuit or some software that offers it like JRiver.

post #17256 of 17748
If anything there's more clarity , if that's at all possible
post #17257 of 17748

I removed my fabric on one on the grills and didn't notice too much of a difference if any personally and was generally worried about dust so I kept the fabric on.

post #17258 of 17748
I'm far too much a pansy to mod mine... I should really reconsider
post #17259 of 17748
Dust really is not much of a factor unless you use your cans in a crazy dusty environment lol. Mechanical damage (like something poking the diaphragm) is another story I would say
post #17260 of 17748

It's not like removing grills off of loudspeakers. Your ears are inches away and that fabric is acoustically transparent. One thing I''ve never been able to use and that's ear buds and in-ear devices. I was on a commuter train and I counted 23 people mostly with iPods and those wonderful $5 ear buds that come stock. I put on a pair of Sennheiser PX-100's and people actually complained to the point the conductor told me to turn 'em down or off. HE-400's would give people a stroke they're so loud. I imagine any planar or electrostatic would do the same since basically they're dipoles that send sound in both directions equally. Magnaplanar and electrostatic speakers like Martin Logan's and Magnepan's have to have some serious acoustic treatment employed in their sound rooms. ASC Tube Traps and the like which ain't cheap. You can drop 5 large easily. That's why the vast majority of super high-end loudspeakers like Wilson and Rockport are dynamic. Us headphone users avoid that, but it's really almost impossible to re-create a live performance with headphones, but there are advantages. Like cost, space (you need a dedicated sound room. I had a friend who's wife insisted on placing a flower pot on his Phase Tech. speakers.) .

 

Hey has anybody heard the $12,000 Sennheiser Electrostatics that came out years ago. With the built in tube DAC?.

post #17261 of 17748
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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post
 

My point is relevant, given that I was commenting about a very specific thing you mentioned..  You said you need at least 700mW to get your money's worth with the HE-400.  The X3 puts out 270mw at 32ohm, and the HE-400 is more demanding than that.  I know I enjoy the HE-400 given this combo, and I seriously doubt I'm the only one either.  My point was that I disagree with your assessment of needing 700mW minimum.

 

Xonar STX drives them well enough and is about 650mw into the HE400, even my sansa clip+ sounds alright with them, the HE400 were designed to be usable with low power.

post #17262 of 17748
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Xonar STX drives them well enough and is about 650mw into the HE400, even my sansa clip+ sounds alright with them, the HE400 were designed to be usable with low power.

I  have to disagree:

my LG G2, or my Laptop also can drive the HE400 loud enough, the iBasso DX90 also can. But they don't drive these cans with enough authority. Loudness is not everything. Orthos love power, the more they get the better.

post #17263 of 17748
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Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

I  have to disagree:

my LG G2, or my Laptop also can drive the HE400 loud enough, the iBasso DX90 also can. But they don't drive these cans with enough authority. Loudness is not everything. Orthos love power, the more they get the better.

He only said they were designed to be USABLE with low power, not that they were optimized for use without an amp. Any headphone should sound better with amplification, but it isn't always necessary. 

post #17264 of 17748
^
Thank you x2 post up
Also LOUD ENOUGH IS A MATTER OF OPINION!
the number one rule of audio,
Crap in crap out
post #17265 of 17748
My xonar essence st is capable to drive my He 400 with authority but my other amp are doing a better job beyersmile.png
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