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post #16981 of 18107

http://bottlehead.com/?product=crack-otl-headphone-amplifier-kit

A lovely tube amp.

post #16982 of 18107

Really? A $200 amp would not only adequately drive a pair of headphones with a reputation of being notoriously hard to drive and sound good? If that's the case, why doesn't everyone have one? I've never heard of it. I have to admit I'm getting weary of this thread.

post #16983 of 18107

Believe Nimzerz was referring to the he-400 rather than the he-6 if that is what I think you're talking about. Think he is suggesting instead of getting a new aftermarket cable for the he-400 then one could spend a bit more to go and get the bottlehead crack. And yeah it probably won't drive the he-6 though I haven't looked at its specs but it will drive the other hifiman cans fine.

post #16984 of 18107
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post
 

Are you saying the audiophiles who have been purchasing expensive high-end cables for years are all being bamboozed and ripped off? Look man, I going with what my ears tell me. Of course there are a lot of solder joints. It comes down to the quality of the solder and the skill of the technician. As far as boards are concerned it comes down to the materials and the quality of the components. Pass Audio Labs reject the vast amount of output transistors. Their circuit boards have to the best quality available. This process is very painstaking and expensive which I why their amps cost thousands of dollars. And that's why they sound so incredible. Boulder amps cost over $100,000 and the build and sound quality are nothing short of amazing. If you have a high-end audio shop, put on some nice clothes and audition some of these products.


I'm sure that companies like Pass Labs do use excellent components throughout. But a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In a super high end system using Pass Labs, Wilson Audio, DCS DAC, perhaps there are no weak links and expensive cables are justified. Or perhaps someone who can spend all that money on components has money coming out the ears and buys expensive cables simply because he or she might as well go all in.

That's completely different from Head-Fi. We aren't running $40K amps with $100K speakers and gold-plated binding posts that cost $3K each. I just don't see the point of connecting a $100+ piece of wire to a $3 SMC connector. But that's just me. I'm not denying what you hear (though I do actually think a great many audiophiles have been ripped off over the years). If the cables are worth it to you, then enjoy and don't listen to naysayers like me. 

If I'm looking to subjectively improve my listening experience, however, I'd rather just drink a beer. Improves the sound way more than cables, IMO :beerchug: 


Edited by manbear - 4/13/14 at 3:26pm
post #16985 of 18107

BTW I've been using HeadRoom's Micro Amp and it's crossfeed circuit I've found to be invaluable for the music I listen to which is mostly rock which has been heavily panned during the engineering and production phases. For instance I'm listening to Pink Floyd's Shine on You Crazy Diamond. When I shut off the crossfeed there is a huge difference in the overall presentation of the music. It staggers me why almost every headphone amp manufacture ignores this issue. Meier Audio in Germany is the only other company that includes this feature in it's amp and DAC's. And I believe Grace does this on some of it's units that are very pricey.

post #16986 of 18107

Everything sounds better after a few beers!

post #16987 of 18107
Rofl no body understood my pun I guess.
post #16988 of 18107

It slipped through the cracks

post #16989 of 18107
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It slipped through the cracks

:beerchug:

post #16990 of 18107
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 


 

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I'm sure that companies like Pass Labs do use excellent components throughout. But a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. In a super high end system using Pass Labs, Wilson Audio, DCS DAC, perhaps there are no weak links and expensive cables are justified. Or perhaps someone who can spend all that money on components has money coming out the ears and buys expensive cables simply because he or she might as well go all in.

That's completely different from Head-Fi. We aren't running $40K amps with $100K speakers and gold-plated binding posts that cost $3K each. I just don't see the point of connecting a $100+ piece of wire to a $3 SMC connector. But that's just me. I'm not denying what you hear (though I do actually think a great many audiophiles have been ripped off over the years). If the cables are worth it to you, then enjoy and don't listen to naysayers like me. 

If I'm looking to subjectively improve my listening experience, however, I'd rather just drink a beer. Improves the sound way more than cables, IMO :beerchug: 

 


I think in the same way as you...for now.

post #16991 of 18107

I thought it was some vague dig towards me regarding crack cocaine. look it's been fun but maybe it's time for this thread to end. I'm happy and enjoy my system and that's what this hobby/obsession is all about.

post #16992 of 18107

One tip I wanted to add for all HiFiMAN owners is to get some Caig DeoxtIT ProGold liquid contact enhancer. It comes is a small bottle with a brush applicator. It work as both a contact enhancer and lubricant to prevent wear from plugging and unplugging both plugs and jacks. This product work perfectly on the threads and tiny nuts on the HiFiMAN connectors. I bought a bottle of this stuff for $30 3 years and I still have almost a half a bottle. Music Direct, an online audio store has it for $33. I don't know if this OK but here's the link:

 

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-6785-caig-deoxit-gold-g100l-treatment.aspx?source=igodigital&

post #16993 of 18107
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post
 

One tip I wanted to add for all HiFiMAN owners is to get some Caig DeoxtIT ProGold liquid contact enhancer. It comes is a small bottle with a brush applicator. It work as both a contact enhancer and lubricant to prevent wear from plugging and unplugging both plugs and jacks. This product work perfectly on the threads and tiny nuts on the HiFiMAN connectors. I bought a bottle of this stuff for $30 3 years and I still have almost a half a bottle. Music Direct, an online audio store has it for $33. I don't know if this OK but here's the link:

 

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-6785-caig-deoxit-gold-g100l-treatment.aspx?source=igodigital&


Are you a product sales troll? Or just a troll? I am just wondering.

 

Also I think a couple Colt 45's are the cheapest audio upgrade I am aware of. There is another substance that can be magical but I am not sure I should name it here . . . lol


Edited by MrMateoHead - 4/13/14 at 5:17pm
post #16994 of 18107

Nope. Just trying to be helpful. I have no connection to Music Direct. I did a google and it popped up. If what I did was improper I won't do it again. That being said, if you own HiFiMAN 'phones, this stuff really works, I'm sure there are many online Hifi dealers that sell it and I'm sure there are many High-end audio stores that do as well. BTW, being new to this, what is a "troll"?

post #16995 of 18107
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post
 

BTW I've been using HeadRoom's Micro Amp and it's crossfeed circuit I've found to be invaluable for the music I listen to which is mostly rock which has been heavily panned during the engineering and production phases. For instance I'm listening to Pink Floyd's Shine on You Crazy Diamond. When I shut off the crossfeed there is a huge difference in the overall presentation of the music. It staggers me why almost every headphone amp manufacture ignores this issue. Meier Audio in Germany is the only other company that includes this feature in it's amp and DAC's. And I believe Grace does this on some of it's units that are very pricey.


I have a HUDA and a Fosgate signature amp both with crossfeed, I notice a slight difference at best with older recordings, I think you are overselling it a bit.

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