Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › **Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread**
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

**Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread** - Page 1127

post #16891 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caessa View Post
 

I purchased these headphones a little over a year ago (alongside a Schiit Magni), and I have to say that I have trouble imagining a better purchase for the money.  I'm still blown away by the sheer clarity of everything that I hear, from all genres of music, at all sound levels.  I put the velours in over the stock pads after about 2 days, and never looked back. 

 

My biggest complaint comes from the build quality.  The screws that attach the cables to the ear pieces are now chronically loose, and I find myself having to fiddle with them almost every time I put the headphones on to get a solid connection.  The screws attaching the headband to the ear pieces have also come loose on several occasions, and when they pop out it kind of freaks me out because it feels like I just broke my $400 (now $300) piece of equipment.  I'd be obliged if anyone has any suggestions concerning the loose screws, because they are the only thing that interrupt me from having a near-perfect experience.


Cables - unscrew both cables out of the headphones and turn each cable in the opposite direction you are going to screw them in (several times)....so there is a bit of tension in them once you insert into the screw hole. The tension should disappear as you screw them fully into the 400's as you are winding back the opposite way.

 

Gimbal screws - epoxy them in or use a dab of a medium glue. You don't want to lose those small screws whatever you do. Make sure your screwdriver fills the entire phillips cross style screw hole as various smaller screwdrivers can fit in the hole but it can shred the thread if you do.

post #16892 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 


Cables - unscrew both cables out of the headphones and turn each cable in the opposite direction you are going to screw them in (several times)....so there is a bit of tension in them once you insert into the screw hole. The tension should disappear as you screw them fully into the 400's as you are winding back the opposite way.

 

Gimbal screws - epoxy them in or use a dab of a medium glue. You don't want to lose those small screws whatever you do. Make sure your screwdriver fills the entire phillips cross style screw hole as various smaller screwdrivers can fit in the hole but it can shred the thread if you do.


I appreciate the comment.  I already do that trick with the cables, since it's the only way to get them to stay put, and yeah I do have a nice set of jewelry screwdrivers for the small screws.  I hadn't considered epoxy before.  Is there some sort of adhesive I could use on the cable nuts to get them to stay, but wouldn't be too hard to get off if I needed a different cable down the road?

post #16893 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caessa View Post
 


I appreciate the comment.  I already do that trick with the cables, since it's the only way to get them to stay put, and yeah I do have a nice set of jewelry screwdrivers for the small screws.  I hadn't considered epoxy before.  Is there some sort of adhesive I could use on the cable nuts to get them to stay, but wouldn't be too hard to get off if I needed a different cable down the road?

There is a way to lock in the cables tighter by hand but I forgot as my ones are directly terminated to the planars.

I'm sure someone will tell you how to do it when they read your post......


Edited by Lohb - 4/6/14 at 5:35am
post #16894 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by chrismini View Post
 

I agree with the second part of your post. However a quality amp and\or DAC will greatly improve the sound of every audiophile grade headphones and the HE-400s are no exception. Of course it depends on what you consider to be too much money. My DAC/Amp combo was about $650.(HeadRoom Micro Amp and DAC) which have been discontinued.

 

You might be right, I have only used the HE400 on a few DAC/AMPS so I do not have the experience to say, but in terms of power they definitely do not need a lot to sound good, and out of the DAC's I have tried the differences are minimal, Xonar STX does a decent job with the HE400 but you are probably right that a nicer amp will give some improvements to sound quality, but I would not expect any massive differences, like with some headphones where NEED a expensive / powerful amp to sound good. Probably the HE400 paired with a smooth sounding amp would make them sound better.

post #16895 of 17711

Not sure it is a good idea to glue the cables, because although they are annoying, if you snag the cable it will just come out of the connector, if you GLUE them in place and then snag the cable, it might damage the headphones / cable.

post #16896 of 17711

i think that one of the reasons why the HE 400s sound so much better for me then my sennheiser 598s is the earpads, i think they better frame my ears and lets me hear a lot more detail in most music along with making music sound much fuller.

post #16897 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atavax View Post
 

i think that one of the reasons why the HE 400s sound so much better for me then my sennheiser 598s is the earpads, i think they better frame my ears and lets me hear a lot more detail in most music along with making music sound much fuller.

 

Mod them and they will be twice as good.

post #16898 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

You might be right, I have only used the HE400 on a few DAC/AMPS so I do not have the experience to say, but in terms of power they definitely do not need a lot to sound good, and out of the DAC's I have tried the differences are minimal, Xonar STX does a decent job with the HE400 but you are probably right that a nicer amp will give some improvements to sound quality, but I would not expect any massive differences, like with some headphones where NEED a expensive / powerful amp to sound good. Probably the HE400 paired with a smooth sounding amp would make them sound better.

 



IMO, YMMV, etc.

In terms of power, the HE-400 doesn't need much. My laptop and iPad can both drive them louder than I want to listen to without distorting, and my Clip can drive them to a decent volume without distorting. Out of the headphones I've owned, (DT-990 250 ohm, Q701), I'd say the HE-400 needs the least power.

In terms of sound quality, the HE-400 benefits greatly from a nice amp (as well as DAC). Bass extension, soundstage width and depth, and image separation all improve greatly on my main rig vs headphone jacks of various devices. Perhaps not massive differences, but very clearly noticeable. Out of the headphones I've owned, the HE-400 shows differences in amp/DAC quality the most.
post #16899 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Mod them and they will be twice as good.

 

aren't new pads being released by hifiman soon if not already?

post #16900 of 17711
It's right the HE 400's don't need a lot of power but a nice little tube amp make them sing, correct the highs and make you smile
post #16901 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Mod them and they will be twice as good.

 

Mods sure make them better, but twice as good? A little bit of an exaggeration. They are very decent in stock form, just the treble is really bothersome.

 

As for the amping discussion, in my experience they come alive with a good source and amp. Straight from my phone they sound lifeless, totally vieled with no bass presence. With the ODAC/M-stage they're a totally different beast.

post #16902 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post
 

 

Mods sure make them better, but twice as good? A little bit of an exaggeration. They are very decent in stock form, just the treble is really bothersome.

 

As for the amping discussion, in my experience they come alive with a good source and amp. Straight from my phone they sound lifeless, totally vieled with no bass presence. With the ODAC/M-stage they're a totally different beast.

 

No, with pad mods and EQ I would say twice as good as stock pads / no EQ.


Edited by nicholars - 4/6/14 at 9:53am
post #16903 of 17711

i'm not comfortable in my ability to mod the earpads, i would probably buy reasonably priced modded earpads though.

post #16904 of 17711
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atavax View Post
 

i'm not comfortable in my ability to mod the earpads, i would probably buy reasonably priced modded earpads though.


If you looked at the Jergpad thread and are intimidated by all the sewing and whatnot, consider that the meat of the mod is cutting the holes in the pads. This is all I've done to make my pads, and it's super easy. All you do is take the pads off the plastic mounting rings, turn them inside out, and cut as many big holes as you can fit. You just need some sharp scissors or an xacto knife. I used scissors from a sewing kit, but (clean!) fingernail type scissors would work too. They just need a sharp tip. 

post #16905 of 17711

The connectors on HiFiMAM can be problematic. I find myself constantly checking to make sure the cables haven't come loose. It's a inconvenience I can live with. These connectors are still superior to the push on connectors on the Sennheisers HD600/650's which have to be constantly checked for loose connections.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Headphones (full-size)
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › **Hifiman HE-400 Impressions and Discussion Thread**