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post #16891 of 20629
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

You might be right, I have only used the HE400 on a few DAC/AMPS so I do not have the experience to say, but in terms of power they definitely do not need a lot to sound good, and out of the DAC's I have tried the differences are minimal, Xonar STX does a decent job with the HE400 but you are probably right that a nicer amp will give some improvements to sound quality, but I would not expect any massive differences, like with some headphones where NEED a expensive / powerful amp to sound good. Probably the HE400 paired with a smooth sounding amp would make them sound better.

 



IMO, YMMV, etc.

In terms of power, the HE-400 doesn't need much. My laptop and iPad can both drive them louder than I want to listen to without distorting, and my Clip can drive them to a decent volume without distorting. Out of the headphones I've owned, (DT-990 250 ohm, Q701), I'd say the HE-400 needs the least power.

In terms of sound quality, the HE-400 benefits greatly from a nice amp (as well as DAC). Bass extension, soundstage width and depth, and image separation all improve greatly on my main rig vs headphone jacks of various devices. Perhaps not massive differences, but very clearly noticeable. Out of the headphones I've owned, the HE-400 shows differences in amp/DAC quality the most.
post #16892 of 20629
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Mod them and they will be twice as good.

 

aren't new pads being released by hifiman soon if not already?

post #16893 of 20629
It's right the HE 400's don't need a lot of power but a nice little tube amp make them sing, correct the highs and make you smile
post #16894 of 20629
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Mod them and they will be twice as good.

 

Mods sure make them better, but twice as good? A little bit of an exaggeration. They are very decent in stock form, just the treble is really bothersome.

 

As for the amping discussion, in my experience they come alive with a good source and amp. Straight from my phone they sound lifeless, totally vieled with no bass presence. With the ODAC/M-stage they're a totally different beast.

post #16895 of 20629
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post
 

 

Mods sure make them better, but twice as good? A little bit of an exaggeration. They are very decent in stock form, just the treble is really bothersome.

 

As for the amping discussion, in my experience they come alive with a good source and amp. Straight from my phone they sound lifeless, totally vieled with no bass presence. With the ODAC/M-stage they're a totally different beast.

 

No, with pad mods and EQ I would say twice as good as stock pads / no EQ.


Edited by nicholars - 4/6/14 at 9:53am
post #16896 of 20629

i'm not comfortable in my ability to mod the earpads, i would probably buy reasonably priced modded earpads though.

post #16897 of 20629
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Originally Posted by Atavax View Post
 

i'm not comfortable in my ability to mod the earpads, i would probably buy reasonably priced modded earpads though.


If you looked at the Jergpad thread and are intimidated by all the sewing and whatnot, consider that the meat of the mod is cutting the holes in the pads. This is all I've done to make my pads, and it's super easy. All you do is take the pads off the plastic mounting rings, turn them inside out, and cut as many big holes as you can fit. You just need some sharp scissors or an xacto knife. I used scissors from a sewing kit, but (clean!) fingernail type scissors would work too. They just need a sharp tip. 

post #16898 of 20629

The connectors on HiFiMAM can be problematic. I find myself constantly checking to make sure the cables haven't come loose. It's a inconvenience I can live with. These connectors are still superior to the push on connectors on the Sennheisers HD600/650's which have to be constantly checked for loose connections.

post #16899 of 20629

I think HiFiMAN advertising the HE-400's can be driven by iPods and iPads and other low powered devices was a bit of a stretch. Yeah they may "work" on these devices, but a quality amp is needed to get them to sound their best. In the middle of May HiFiMAN will be releasing the HE-400i's which are supposed to even more efficient and weigh less, etc. They will also be $500.

post #16900 of 20629

Hey all, long time lurker and first time poster here.  I first found the site a couple years back and it helped me decide on my first decent setup, a pair of ATH-M50's and an E17.  I've been enjoying them immensely while focusing on expanding my music collection but now I've got the itch for an upgrade.  Turns out I didn't really need a portable (or closed-back) setup so I'm looking for something more substantial this time around.

 

I'm considering the HE-400 with velour earpads, Bifrost, and Asgard 2.  Ultimately, I want a big sound quality upgrade at a great value.  Am I on the right track?

 

I don't hang out in any one genre so I need a good all-rounder.  I generally listen from a mac through toslink.  I plan on adding BitPerfect when I get the new setup.

post #16901 of 20629
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Originally Posted by kito109654 View Post
 

Hey all, long time lurker and first time poster here.  I first found the site a couple years back and it helped me decide on my first decent setup, a pair of ATH-M50's and an E17.  I've been enjoying them immensely while focusing on expanding my music collection but now I've got the itch for an upgrade.  Turns out I didn't really need a portable (or closed-back) setup so I'm looking for something more substantial this time around.

 

I'm considering the HE-400 with velour earpads, Bifrost, and Asgard 2.  Ultimately, I want a big sound quality upgrade at a great value.  Am I on the right track?

 

I don't hang out in any one genre so I need a good all-rounder.  I generally listen from a mac through toslink.  I plan on adding BitPerfect when I get the new setup.


Audirvana + also a great player, it can bypass OS X codecs entirely in settings in integer mode. Everything seems to scale up in size/detail and separation with A+ vs the standards OS X free players.


Edited by Lohb - 4/7/14 at 9:54am
post #16902 of 20629

You might want to hold out for the new upgrade to the HE-400s; the HE-400i coming out mid May. They will be $499. My humble advice would be to do some research first.

post #16903 of 20629

the new earpads that are going to come out for the 400i and 560 is going to be compatible with the 400 and 500, right?

post #16904 of 20629

Is anyone on here getting an advance pair of 400i for review ? 560's getting all the focus right now but just a month away for the 400i vs 400's shoot out....

post #16905 of 20629

So far all HiFiMAN ear pads are interchangeable so it's reasonable to assume the new models will work as well.

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