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post #16846 of 18442
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Do they do soldering and things like that? I would prefer to get it repaired because £80 for a cable from hifiman is a rip off. I have seen some for £30 on ebay but they look a bit short.


I think this specific cable connector is the same as used by TV shops in some cases....so they should know its style on showing them. So if they do repair then sure they will be able to solder. Honestly I don't see how they could charge more than 5 quid....

 

I made my cables from plussoundaudio DIY kits and that guys stuff is very competitively priced. I think in your case you might get a reasonable cable price off the BTG audio guy on here or whatever his name is. If you get your cable fixed locally, it will go fast on ebay if you want something more flexible and "pretty", you'll just be out of a cable for 10 days or so during switch over. Good luck.


Edited by Lohb - 4/2/14 at 12:44pm
post #16847 of 18442

Not really bothered about flexible or pretty, I like the length and thickness of the standard cable, its just that the connectors are a bad design, they come loose so you twist them back to tighten them, over time the cable has got a twist / split in it, and sometimes when I move it, it cuts out, no chance would I ever spend more than £30 on a cable, because I do not believe that they make any difference to sound quality. The stock cable seems like a good cable, just a poor design on the connectors. Thanks for the tip I will take them down to my local TV store and see if they will fix it for me.

post #16848 of 18442

anyone has Portaphile 627x amp i wonder how mix with he-400. i know that people recomended

Schiit Magani+modi or JDS O2+ODAC but i heard that Portaphile 627 is one of the  best portable amps out there 

anybody heard them toghter to get an opinion and comprasion beetween Schitt and JDS labs?

post #16849 of 18442

I have HE-400 that I paid $300 for. Then I had CablePro build me a 2 meter custom cable that with shipping set me back $140. The difference in the sound quality was apparent even before this cable was broken in. People may react with shock that I bought a cable that cost 50% of what the headphones cost. I've been doing high end audio for 35 years so I'm not some newbie being swindled by a predatory cable builder. High quality cables make a huge difference, depending on the design and materials. Otherwise I along with many audiophiles wouldn't waste our money on them. The stock cable on the HE-400's is pretty good for a stock cable. In fact better than most. However I'm going to be using these headphones hopefully for many years to come. So I decided to upgrade right away and be done with it. I'm using a Headroom Micro DAC and matching amp. And it sounds pretty good! 

post #16850 of 18442

About to order the HE-400s once I get home from work. Any ideas on what amp/dac combo I should go with? ($400 budget)

Or if it's even worth upgrading from a E12 Mont Blanc, that I usually use when I'm out but have been using until I upgrade and a Xonar STX.

post #16851 of 18442

I just got my own pair of HE-400's and they are awesome! Glad others here seem to agree.

Cheers :beyersmile:

post #16852 of 18442
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post
 

I have HE-400 that I paid $300 for. Then I had CablePro build me a 2 meter custom cable that with shipping set me back $140. The difference in the sound quality was apparent even before this cable was broken in. People may react with shock that I bought a cable that cost 50% of what the headphones cost. I've been doing high end audio for 35 years so I'm not some newbie being swindled by a predatory cable builder. High quality cables make a huge difference, depending on the design and materials. Otherwise I along with many audiophiles wouldn't waste our money on them. The stock cable on the HE-400's is pretty good for a stock cable. In fact better than most. However I'm going to be using these headphones hopefully for many years to come. So I decided to upgrade right away and be done with it. I'm using a Headroom Micro DAC and matching amp. And it sounds pretty good! 

 

I am not going to argue about cable and sound quality, but when I did some reading about it, every objective test found zero difference in sound quality, as long as the cable is good enough to not degrade the sound quality. Maybe it does sound better, I have not personally had the chance to test cables from £10-£1000 on the same system, but from everything I have read and my personal experience, as long as the cable is decent then there is no sound quality to be gained from expensive cables and it is more likely to be "psychocacoustic", but if it works / looks / sounds better to you and you have the money  then its worth it, so I do not mean to sound offensive, but I am not going to spend large amounts of money on a cable until a see some objective evidence (blind A/B, or measurements) that they make a difference.


Edited by nicholars - 4/3/14 at 1:57am
post #16853 of 18442

Hi Guys,

 

I only have one pair of headphones the Denon D7000. But I really want an open style to compliment the D7000. Would the 400 suffice?

I have a Little Dot + hybrid. A Matrix amp 1st revision. And a old school 1977 Marantz 2220 Receiver. I Do like a V shapped signature. I am afraid that the energetic 7000 with its hyped treble and sub bass may make the 400 sound too calm in comparison. But I am aching for some air and more clarity. By the way if I order through Amazon. How long does the shipping take?


Edited by henree - 4/3/14 at 3:09am
post #16854 of 18442
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Originally Posted by henree View Post
 

Hi Guys,

 

I only have one pair of headphones the Denon D7000. But I really want an open style to compliment the D7000. Would the 400 suffice?

I have a Little Dot + hybrid. A Matrix amp 1st revision. And a old school 1977 Marantz 2220 Receiver. I Do like a V shapped signature. I am afraid that the energetic 7000 with its hyped treble and sub bass may make the 400 sound too calm in comparison. But I am aching for some air and more clarity. By the way if I order through Amazon. How long does the shipping take?

 

The HE400 have more agressive treble than the D7000.

post #16855 of 18442

what do you guys think about these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2m-HIFIMAN-HE-5-HE-6-HE-400-HE-500-Headphone-Cable-Furutech-Upgrade-Cable-/111179732394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2d415aa

 

or other cables from the same seller?

post #16856 of 18442

I don't see a reason to upgrade the HE-400 cable.

post #16857 of 18442
I would not buy a new HE-400 cable unless the stock one broke.
post #16858 of 18442

If the treble on these bothers you, even with various mods, If you have a spare pair of pads and don't mind breaking them, try doing the jergmod but making it so that it is as much foam exposed as possible, mine have split now to the point that everything except the top part that touches your head is the exposed yellow foam, the treble is smooth as butter (with a bit of EQ). Just saying if you STILL find the treble / hollow sound / glare in midrange a problem even with jergmods, this does actually completely remove ALL sibilance and tizz from the treble, hollow sound and midrange glare, its funny how I broke the pads, but now I do not have any urge to upgrade the headphones, the proper jergpads with the velour mods are probably similar I have not tried them, but if you are bored and have a pair of spare pleathers / do not mind breaking, I would be interested to hear what people think of it. Doesn't look pretty, but who cares as you cannot see them when they are on your head anyway, I was going to buy some new pads but I will just stick with my broken pads because with the EQ and "jergmod extreme broken pads mod" they sort of remind me of HD650, but better. Some people asked me for an EQ file, this is what I use most of the time, your preferences might be different (I like bass and warm sound, hate bright treble and sibilance) but this will give you an idea of the shape to bring the upper mids up and sort out the treble, I also use "warm" filters on the treble area because it seems to smooth it out a bit. I don't really feel any need to upgrade them anymore as I like them with all genres. They sound smooth and natural now, but still have bass, speed and a bit of sparkle in the treble.

 


Edited by nicholars - 4/3/14 at 11:26am
post #16859 of 18442
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Originally Posted by Dadbeh View Post
 

what do you guys think about these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2m-HIFIMAN-HE-5-HE-6-HE-400-HE-500-Headphone-Cable-Furutech-Upgrade-Cable-/111179732394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2d415aa

 

or other cables from the same seller?

Search in this thread for pictures. One member bought those few weeks back. 

post #16860 of 18442

Fair enough. Cables have always been a point of contention. I use my ears to lead me down whatever path this hobby has to offer. Transparent Audio has speaker cables that go for around $40,000. They sell more than you'd think. If you have Rockport Arakis speakers go for $300,000. Top of the line Boulder power amps go for about the some. So if you're filthy rich and have over a half a million dollars just in power amp and speakers, what kind of cables are you going to use in a system that goes for close to a million dollars? That's just for the gear. That's not including that work on the room. That's all I've got to say...

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