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post #16846 of 21617

Hi Guys,

 

I only have one pair of headphones the Denon D7000. But I really want an open style to compliment the D7000. Would the 400 suffice?

I have a Little Dot + hybrid. A Matrix amp 1st revision. And a old school 1977 Marantz 2220 Receiver. I Do like a V shapped signature. I am afraid that the energetic 7000 with its hyped treble and sub bass may make the 400 sound too calm in comparison. But I am aching for some air and more clarity. By the way if I order through Amazon. How long does the shipping take?


Edited by henree - 4/3/14 at 3:09am
post #16847 of 21617
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Originally Posted by henree View Post
 

Hi Guys,

 

I only have one pair of headphones the Denon D7000. But I really want an open style to compliment the D7000. Would the 400 suffice?

I have a Little Dot + hybrid. A Matrix amp 1st revision. And a old school 1977 Marantz 2220 Receiver. I Do like a V shapped signature. I am afraid that the energetic 7000 with its hyped treble and sub bass may make the 400 sound too calm in comparison. But I am aching for some air and more clarity. By the way if I order through Amazon. How long does the shipping take?

 

The HE400 have more agressive treble than the D7000.

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post #16849 of 21617

I don't see a reason to upgrade the HE-400 cable.

post #16850 of 21617
I would not buy a new HE-400 cable unless the stock one broke.
post #16851 of 21617

If the treble on these bothers you, even with various mods, If you have a spare pair of pads and don't mind breaking them, try doing the jergmod but making it so that it is as much foam exposed as possible, mine have split now to the point that everything except the top part that touches your head is the exposed yellow foam, the treble is smooth as butter (with a bit of EQ). Just saying if you STILL find the treble / hollow sound / glare in midrange a problem even with jergmods, this does actually completely remove ALL sibilance and tizz from the treble, hollow sound and midrange glare, its funny how I broke the pads, but now I do not have any urge to upgrade the headphones, the proper jergpads with the velour mods are probably similar I have not tried them, but if you are bored and have a pair of spare pleathers / do not mind breaking, I would be interested to hear what people think of it. Doesn't look pretty, but who cares as you cannot see them when they are on your head anyway, I was going to buy some new pads but I will just stick with my broken pads because with the EQ and "jergmod extreme broken pads mod" they sort of remind me of HD650, but better. Some people asked me for an EQ file, this is what I use most of the time, your preferences might be different (I like bass and warm sound, hate bright treble and sibilance) but this will give you an idea of the shape to bring the upper mids up and sort out the treble, I also use "warm" filters on the treble area because it seems to smooth it out a bit. I don't really feel any need to upgrade them anymore as I like them with all genres. They sound smooth and natural now, but still have bass, speed and a bit of sparkle in the treble.

 


Edited by nicholars - 4/3/14 at 11:26am
post #16852 of 21617
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Originally Posted by Dadbeh View Post
 

what do you guys think about these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2m-HIFIMAN-HE-5-HE-6-HE-400-HE-500-Headphone-Cable-Furutech-Upgrade-Cable-/111179732394?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2d415aa

 

or other cables from the same seller?

Search in this thread for pictures. One member bought those few weeks back. 

post #16853 of 21617

Fair enough. Cables have always been a point of contention. I use my ears to lead me down whatever path this hobby has to offer. Transparent Audio has speaker cables that go for around $40,000. They sell more than you'd think. If you have Rockport Arakis speakers go for $300,000. Top of the line Boulder power amps go for about the some. So if you're filthy rich and have over a half a million dollars just in power amp and speakers, what kind of cables are you going to use in a system that goes for close to a million dollars? That's just for the gear. That's not including that work on the room. That's all I've got to say...

post #16854 of 21617
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post

Fair enough. Cables have always been a point of contention. I use my ears to lead me down whatever path this hobby has to offer. Transparent Audio has speaker cables that go for around $40,000. They sell more than you'd think. If you have Rockport Arakis speakers go for $300,000. Top of the line Boulder power amps go for about the some. So if you're filthy rich and have over a half a million dollars just in power amp and speakers, what kind of cables are you going to use in a system that goes for close to a million dollars? That's just for the gear. That's not including that work on the room. That's all I've got to say...


 



LOL

http://www.stereophile.com/cables/805harm

Read the measurements section, then the enraged letters.

An entertaining piece of hifi history...
post #16855 of 21617

That's pretty amazing. And the price is very reasonable for high end audio. I wonder what a headphone cable with that technology would sound on high end headphones like HD800's or HE-6's. 

post #16856 of 21617

That was an interesting read.

 

Reviewer- "The CyberLights represent one of the greatest technological breakthroughs in high-performance audio that I have experienced in my audiophile lifetime."

 

Measurement guy- "If this review were of a conventional product, I would dismiss it as being broken."

 

Didn't the same thing happen with the infamous "Playstation 1 makes an amazing CD player" thing?  Some people were going crazy over the sound quality, then they measured it and the measurements were terrible.

post #16857 of 21617
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post

That's pretty amazing. And the price is very reasonable for high end audio. I wonder what a headphone cable with that technology would sound on high end headphones like HD800's or HE-6's. 


 



It would probably sound like it has audible distortion. You read the measurements section, right?

If you're just trying to get my goat, that's ok too. I think everyone should be aware of this cable review, as the whole thing is quite interesting.
post #16858 of 21617

It's not my intention to get anyone's goat. I'm a peaceful man enjoying his hobby and listening to great music with amazing headphones that only coat $300. I've been using AKG K702's for 4 years. I don't want make anyone angry, but these HE-400's blow them out of the water..

post #16859 of 21617
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post

It's not my intention to get anyone's goat. I'm a peaceful man enjoying his hobby and listening to great music with amazing headphones that only coat $300. I've been using AKG K702's for 4 years. I don't want make anyone angry, but these HE-400's blow them out of the water..


 



Yeah, I used to have a Q701 and I think the HE-400 is way better.
post #16860 of 21617

Not sure how the HE-400's midrange and treble are better than the Q701.  The only area I prefer the HE-400 over the Q701 is the bass and imaging.

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