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post #16831 of 20397
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Originally Posted by Dadbeh View Post
 

i'm looking for an aftermarket cable for He400 ... on the cheap .... any recommendations?

E-Mail Ted from Headphone lounge, he has great deals

post #16832 of 20397

Does anyone know where to get a pair of HE-400s in the UK, without paying the ridiculous rates that 'certain' dealers are charging? Buying direct is not an option either, as they are 'temporarily unable' to send items to the UK. They responded to me with:

 

'Because of the customs duty,our dealer in UK does not prefer us to sell to UK directly from our official web store.Because of the customs duty,our dealer in UK does not prefer us to sell to UK directly from our official web store.'

 

This didn't answer the question I asked them (that I would pay customs charges, not the dealer, since I'd be buying direct from them), and despite the fact they wish to shaft customers in the UK, I would still like to buy a pair. If I can't get a pair here, I'll just ask my uncle to bring a pair back from America. 

 

I'm not intending to rant about Head-Direct or Hi-fi man, they make great products. Just not a fan of this approach.

post #16833 of 20397
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Originally Posted by Hobgoblinpie View Post
 

Does anyone know where to get a pair of HE-400s in the UK, without paying the ridiculous rates that 'certain' dealers are charging? Buying direct is not an option either, as they are 'temporarily unable' to send items to the UK. They responded to me with:

 

'Because of the customs duty,our dealer in UK does not prefer us to sell to UK directly from our official web store.Because of the customs duty,our dealer in UK does not prefer us to sell to UK directly from our official web store.'

 

This didn't answer the question I asked them (that I would pay customs charges, not the dealer, since I'd be buying direct from them), and despite the fact they wish to shaft customers in the UK, I would still like to buy a pair. If I can't get a pair here, I'll just ask my uncle to bring a pair back from America. 

 

I'm not intending to rant about Head-Direct or Hi-fi man, they make great products. Just not a fan of this approach.

Yep, I know that pain.

I paid around 630 dollars for my HE-400 due to customs in Poland (yep, the price of a HE-500 for a HE-400).

This problem comes from our governments, not stores.

post #16834 of 20397
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Originally Posted by Hobgoblinpie View Post
 

Does anyone know where to get a pair of HE-400s in the UK, without paying the ridiculous rates that 'certain' dealers are charging? Buying direct is not an option either, as they are 'temporarily unable' to send items to the UK. They responded to me with:

 

'Because of the customs duty,our dealer in UK does not prefer us to sell to UK directly from our official web store.Because of the customs duty,our dealer in UK does not prefer us to sell to UK directly from our official web store.'

 

This didn't answer the question I asked them (that I would pay customs charges, not the dealer, since I'd be buying direct from them), and despite the fact they wish to shaft customers in the UK, I would still like to buy a pair. If I can't get a pair here, I'll just ask my uncle to bring a pair back from America. 

 

I'm not intending to rant about Head-Direct or Hi-fi man, they make great products. Just not a fan of this approach.


I'd hold off and see how the 400i fair in the critical reviews.....if you can get the US price on them vs UK price on 400's I'd go for it.They may be a big leap up fixing various issues.... Good old UK famously matching pounds to dollars for imports...eh ?

post #16835 of 20397
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 


I'd hold off and see how the 400i fair in the critical reviews.....if you can get the US price on them vs UK price on 400's I'd go for it.They may be a big leap up fixing various issues.... Good old UK famously matching pounds to dollars for imports...eh ?

 

I had a person offer me a deal on the he-400s imported, and I'm taking it. I would wait for the 400i, but it'll likely be around £500 here or more. The He-400s can be bought now for $300 in the US, and Head-direct have confirmed that they have exclusivity deals with dealers in the UK (i.e. no direct importing for people in the UK), who sell the HE-400s for £400. That's $65 more than double the US price. In this case I would even have been happy to pay £300 - but I'm not going to pay double the price for the rest of the world, when there is a new model coming out soon. I get that things are generally more expensive in the UK - but to be forced to pay double the price is pretty insulting (which is why I'm not buying from a dealer in the UK - I'm happy to pay the customs and duty on a pair).

 

Anyway, I'm buying a used pair, and look forward to them. 


Edited by Hobgoblinpie - 4/2/14 at 2:36am
post #16836 of 20397

Good for you. Enjoy ! Welcome to the planars tribe.

post #16837 of 20397
Sorry a little too late
An option in a French shop you get it for 345e + 18e delivery to England EU no duty wink.gif

Next time or for somebody else...

http://www.audiophonics.fr/hifiman-he400-casque-audiophile-haute-sensibilite-925-p-6901.html

More expensive than from head direct (got mine from and no taxes)
post #16838 of 20397
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 


TV repair place locally a good bet as they will be familiar with the SMC-type cable...

 

Do they do soldering and things like that? I would prefer to get it repaired because £80 for a cable from hifiman is a rip off. I have seen some for £30 on ebay but they look a bit short.

post #16839 of 20397
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Do they do soldering and things like that? I would prefer to get it repaired because £80 for a cable from hifiman is a rip off. I have seen some for £30 on ebay but they look a bit short.


I think this specific cable connector is the same as used by TV shops in some cases....so they should know its style on showing them. So if they do repair then sure they will be able to solder. Honestly I don't see how they could charge more than 5 quid....

 

I made my cables from plussoundaudio DIY kits and that guys stuff is very competitively priced. I think in your case you might get a reasonable cable price off the BTG audio guy on here or whatever his name is. If you get your cable fixed locally, it will go fast on ebay if you want something more flexible and "pretty", you'll just be out of a cable for 10 days or so during switch over. Good luck.


Edited by Lohb - 4/2/14 at 12:44pm
post #16840 of 20397

Not really bothered about flexible or pretty, I like the length and thickness of the standard cable, its just that the connectors are a bad design, they come loose so you twist them back to tighten them, over time the cable has got a twist / split in it, and sometimes when I move it, it cuts out, no chance would I ever spend more than £30 on a cable, because I do not believe that they make any difference to sound quality. The stock cable seems like a good cable, just a poor design on the connectors. Thanks for the tip I will take them down to my local TV store and see if they will fix it for me.

post #16841 of 20397

anyone has Portaphile 627x amp i wonder how mix with he-400. i know that people recomended

Schiit Magani+modi or JDS O2+ODAC but i heard that Portaphile 627 is one of the  best portable amps out there 

anybody heard them toghter to get an opinion and comprasion beetween Schitt and JDS labs?

post #16842 of 20397

I have HE-400 that I paid $300 for. Then I had CablePro build me a 2 meter custom cable that with shipping set me back $140. The difference in the sound quality was apparent even before this cable was broken in. People may react with shock that I bought a cable that cost 50% of what the headphones cost. I've been doing high end audio for 35 years so I'm not some newbie being swindled by a predatory cable builder. High quality cables make a huge difference, depending on the design and materials. Otherwise I along with many audiophiles wouldn't waste our money on them. The stock cable on the HE-400's is pretty good for a stock cable. In fact better than most. However I'm going to be using these headphones hopefully for many years to come. So I decided to upgrade right away and be done with it. I'm using a Headroom Micro DAC and matching amp. And it sounds pretty good! 

post #16843 of 20397

About to order the HE-400s once I get home from work. Any ideas on what amp/dac combo I should go with? ($400 budget)

Or if it's even worth upgrading from a E12 Mont Blanc, that I usually use when I'm out but have been using until I upgrade and a Xonar STX.

post #16844 of 20397

I just got my own pair of HE-400's and they are awesome! Glad others here seem to agree.

Cheers :beyersmile:

post #16845 of 20397
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Originally Posted by chrismini View Post
 

I have HE-400 that I paid $300 for. Then I had CablePro build me a 2 meter custom cable that with shipping set me back $140. The difference in the sound quality was apparent even before this cable was broken in. People may react with shock that I bought a cable that cost 50% of what the headphones cost. I've been doing high end audio for 35 years so I'm not some newbie being swindled by a predatory cable builder. High quality cables make a huge difference, depending on the design and materials. Otherwise I along with many audiophiles wouldn't waste our money on them. The stock cable on the HE-400's is pretty good for a stock cable. In fact better than most. However I'm going to be using these headphones hopefully for many years to come. So I decided to upgrade right away and be done with it. I'm using a Headroom Micro DAC and matching amp. And it sounds pretty good! 

 

I am not going to argue about cable and sound quality, but when I did some reading about it, every objective test found zero difference in sound quality, as long as the cable is good enough to not degrade the sound quality. Maybe it does sound better, I have not personally had the chance to test cables from £10-£1000 on the same system, but from everything I have read and my personal experience, as long as the cable is decent then there is no sound quality to be gained from expensive cables and it is more likely to be "psychocacoustic", but if it works / looks / sounds better to you and you have the money  then its worth it, so I do not mean to sound offensive, but I am not going to spend large amounts of money on a cable until a see some objective evidence (blind A/B, or measurements) that they make a difference.


Edited by nicholars - 4/3/14 at 1:57am
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