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post #16816 of 19810

I find the HE-400 a bit faster sounding than DT880 IMO

post #16817 of 19810

Funny thing I found with my HE-400.....

 

I modded to pads with jergmods about 6 months ago, few months later they have both split, exposing the foam underneath between the drivers and your ears, (most of it).....

 

Since this has happened these headphones have literally almost no sibilance or tizz, combined with EQ they are almost HD650 smooth and natural in the treble but they still have the exciting treble, excellent bass and mids (with some EQ).

 

I can't say they sound much worse in other ways (maybe a bit), I actually prefer the sound of them now, they still sound good and the treble is not a problem at all anymore, I was going to sell them as I could not hack the treble and sibilance even with jergmods but now it does not bother me at all.... So by unintentionally breaking the pads, I have fixed the treble.


Edited by nicholars - 3/31/14 at 7:25am
post #16818 of 19810
When i made my jergpads following modulars instructions, i made my damping holes very large, to the point that there is more foam surface than pleather, and i've heard similar results.
post #16819 of 19810

Does anyone here know anything about the updated 400s, like the price and potential performance and what not?

post #16820 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Funny thing I found with my HE-400.....

 

I modded to pads with jergmods about 6 months ago, few months later they have both split, exposing the foam underneath between the drivers and your ears, (most of it).....

 

Since this has happened these headphones have literally almost no sibilance or tizz, combined with EQ they are almost HD650 smooth and natural in the treble but they still have the exciting treble, excellent bass and mids (with some EQ).

 

I can't say they sound much worse in other ways (maybe a bit), I actually prefer the sound of them now, they still sound good and the treble is not a problem at all anymore, I was going to sell them as I could not hack the treble and sibilance even with jergmods but now it does not bother me at all.... So by unintentionally breaking the pads, I have fixed the treble.


"650 smooth".....If only they had split right when the 400's came out..... :basshead: 

post #16821 of 19810
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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

Does anyone here know anything about the updated 400s, like the price and potential performance and what not?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698831/fresh-outta-ces-the-hifiman-he-400i-and-he-560

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698974/hifiman-he-400i-impressions-and-discussion

 

You might want to take a look at those threads. Price will be 499$, performance not a lot is known yet.

post #16822 of 19810
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 


"650 smooth".....If only they had split right when the 400's came out..... :basshead: 

 

Well not HD650 smooth, HD650 are boringly smooth, but with EQ and the "jergmod extreme, broken pads mod" I have not actually noticed any sibilance since it happened, I used to listen to them for an hour or two and then take them off because they were hurting my ears, also only used them for some genres as vocals sounded bad most of the time, now I have an EQ for metal and that sort of music (with a bump around 1.2 > 5khz) and an EQ for electronic music (less upper midrange and more bass), and I like them for all genres as they do not sound "tizzy" or sibilant at all, whereas before at anything other than low/med volume they basically destroyed my eardrums after an hour and did not sound good with anything except electronic music. Now I can use them for hours with no problems. The Jergmod's and EQ made a big difference, but now the pads split on the sides the treble does not bother me at all, also there is no hollow sound to them or the glare in the midrange, probably some areas are worse slightly such as soundstage and imaging / clarity, but I do not notice much difference and actually prefer them with the split/broken pads!

post #16823 of 19810
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Originally Posted by kernel8888 View Post

When i made my jergpads following modulars instructions, i made my damping holes very large, to the point that there is more foam surface than pleather, and i've heard similar results.

 

Mine have split up the insides (the bit you can see between the top / bottom of pads) where your ears fit (does not look good but I don't care), the sound is probably slightly worse technically but to me it sounds better as the only problem I had with the HE400 was the treble sibilance and "tizzy" sound. I think HIFIMAN made some excellent planar drivers etc. but did not put much effort into the pads, to be honest when I first tried the HE400 with stock pleather / velour pads, I was very disappointed and was going to return them, but now i like them a lot, except for the stupid cable which needs replacing but I am not spending £80 on a HIFIMAN cable. Stock HE400 = hollow, harsh, sibilant etc. HE400 + EQ = Big improvement but still have the same problems, HE400 + most of the inner foam exposed on the pads = Not hollow, not harsh at all. The proper jergpads with velour and damping probably even better but I am poor so I am currently happy with my broken pads  :biggrin:


Edited by nicholars - 4/1/14 at 3:29am
post #16824 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

....., now I have an EQ for metal and that sort of music (with a bump around 1.2 > 5khz) and an EQ for electronic music (less upper midrange and more bass), and I like them for all genres .....

Mind sharing your presets?

 

Thanks

post #16825 of 19810
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Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

Mind sharing your presets?

 

Thanks

 

Get "sinegen" and measure it to your own preferences, because everyones ears / hearing / drivers will be different....  ~1.2khz > 6khz need a boost for vocals and guitars and ~7.5khz and ~12.5khz need dips to remove the treble problems. Electronic music = more bass and less upper midrange, guitars / vocals etc. 2-3db boost at ~1.2>6khz, you really need to measure your own headphones / hearing using Sinegen as your hearing / headphones are probably different to mine.

post #16826 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Get "sinegen" and measure it to your own preferences, because everyones ears / hearing / drivers will be different....  ~1.2khz > 6khz need a boost for vocals and guitars and ~7.5khz and ~12.5khz need dips to remove the treble problems. Electronic music = more bass and less upper midrange, guitars / vocals etc. 2-3db boost at ~1.2>6khz, you really need to measure your own headphones / hearing using Sinegen as your hearing / headphones are probably different to mine.


Nicholars were you going to move on to 400i or Nad HP50's ?

post #16827 of 19810
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 


Nicholars were you going to move on to 400i or Nad HP50's ?

 

No because I have no job / money at the moment, except for the cable I am happy with the HE400 now, might upgrade at some point when I have more money but with mods and EQ I do not think there is a better pair of headphones I can get for what I paid for these, NAD HP50 look interesting and I might try them when I have some more money.. DOn't know if they would be an upgrade to the modded / EQ HE400.

post #16828 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

No because I have no job / money at the moment, except for the cable I am happy with the HE400 now, might upgrade at some point when I have more money but with mods and EQ I do not think there is a better pair of headphones I can get for what I paid for these, NAD HP50 look interesting and I might try them when I have some more money.. DOn't know if they would be an upgrade to the modded / EQ HE400.


AmigoMatt did a nice comparison on the HP50 thread...never harsh is one thing for them....forgiving of bad mastering is another.

Shame about the cable. Even a DIY thin Mogami is a step up from those thick black stock cables.

post #16829 of 19810
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AmigoMatt did a nice comparison on the HP50 thread...never harsh is one thing for them....forgiving of bad mastering is another.

Shame about the cable. Even a DIY thin Mogami is a step up from those thick black stock cables.

 

Its not the size of it, its the connectors and the right one cuts out sometimes when I move it, I might try and re-terminate them but I don't know how to solder so I am not sure where I could get someone to do that?

post #16830 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Its not the size of it, its the connectors and the right one cuts out sometimes when I move it, I might try and re-terminate them but I don't know how to solder so I am not sure where I could get someone to do that?


TV repair place locally a good bet as they will be familiar with the SMC-type cable...

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