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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The xc is a really fine hp, BUT IMO the lcd-x is appreciably better across the signature, lighter and more comfortable. And $100 cheaper...

 

I'm sure the X is a great headphone, however it's not closed.  Also with that said, I wonder if it'd provide the kind of closed pressure-oriented bass the XC has which LCD2 lacked.  Also looking at the Innerfidelity measurements of the X and the XC, the XC looks to be the more neutral of the two throughout the upper midrange/lower treble.  I wonder if Tyll will include the XC for comparison sakes when he posts his LCD-X review this friday, which I heard also takes into consideration the revised LCD2?

 

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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post

Same amount of detail between the x and xc? The xc didn't have the amount of detail as the 3 which sucks.

 

I'll parrot Purrin's remarks on the LCD series in saying that the LCD-3 is the most detailed out of all the Audeze cans.


Edited by TMRaven - 3/26/14 at 1:53pm
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Thread Starter 

I spent a weekend with both headphones. The bass is there on the lcd-x...believe me. The lcd-x is special and for me, beat the xc on everything except isolation. 

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Well...  first time I've heard the HE-400 with more amping than a Fiio E6.  Got in my Fiio X3 today, and I have to admit this headphone certainly feel like a new beast, and beast is right.  It feels quite a bit more aggressive in its sound than before!  I'm realizing just how much I was missing before...  almost makes me want to get a Dac/Amp combo for my comp, but I listen almost exclusively with portable devices, so might not be worth it.

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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post
 

Well...  first time I've heard the HE-400 with more amping than a Fiio E6.  Got in my Fiio X3 today, and I have to admit this headphone certainly feel like a new beast, and beast is right.  It feels quite a bit more aggressive in its sound than before!  I'm realizing just how much I was missing before...  almost makes me want to get a Dac/Amp combo for my comp, but I listen almost exclusively with portable devices, so might not be worth it.

The source components used (plus the quality of the source files) make a BIG difference in the sound you'll get from either the HE-400 or 500's. I've had a lot of fun with my X3 once I figured out how it wanted/need things tagged and I'm surprised by the level of sound quality its capable of. It's an amazing little device (in my opinion) for very little money and it provides a ton of flexibility. If you lack a DAC/amp combo for your computer you may want to consider the very popular and very inexpensive Magni/Modi stack...that's a lot of performance for the same price as the X3. Good luck!


Edited by KLJTech - 3/27/14 at 6:00pm
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For my computer I've been using a sound blaster x-fi hd, but so little of my listening actually requires a computer, I haven't seen a point in upgrading past it.  I'd prefer to spend money on a setup that I can listen to outside on the porch, in bed, at the computer, lounging while reading, etc... you get the point :)

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I find the HE-400 a bit faster sounding than DT880 IMO

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Funny thing I found with my HE-400.....

 

I modded to pads with jergmods about 6 months ago, few months later they have both split, exposing the foam underneath between the drivers and your ears, (most of it).....

 

Since this has happened these headphones have literally almost no sibilance or tizz, combined with EQ they are almost HD650 smooth and natural in the treble but they still have the exciting treble, excellent bass and mids (with some EQ).

 

I can't say they sound much worse in other ways (maybe a bit), I actually prefer the sound of them now, they still sound good and the treble is not a problem at all anymore, I was going to sell them as I could not hack the treble and sibilance even with jergmods but now it does not bother me at all.... So by unintentionally breaking the pads, I have fixed the treble.


Edited by nicholars - 3/31/14 at 7:25am
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When i made my jergpads following modulars instructions, i made my damping holes very large, to the point that there is more foam surface than pleather, and i've heard similar results.
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Does anyone here know anything about the updated 400s, like the price and potential performance and what not?

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Funny thing I found with my HE-400.....

 

I modded to pads with jergmods about 6 months ago, few months later they have both split, exposing the foam underneath between the drivers and your ears, (most of it).....

 

Since this has happened these headphones have literally almost no sibilance or tizz, combined with EQ they are almost HD650 smooth and natural in the treble but they still have the exciting treble, excellent bass and mids (with some EQ).

 

I can't say they sound much worse in other ways (maybe a bit), I actually prefer the sound of them now, they still sound good and the treble is not a problem at all anymore, I was going to sell them as I could not hack the treble and sibilance even with jergmods but now it does not bother me at all.... So by unintentionally breaking the pads, I have fixed the treble.


"650 smooth".....If only they had split right when the 400's came out..... :basshead: 

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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

Does anyone here know anything about the updated 400s, like the price and potential performance and what not?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698831/fresh-outta-ces-the-hifiman-he-400i-and-he-560

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/698974/hifiman-he-400i-impressions-and-discussion

 

You might want to take a look at those threads. Price will be 499$, performance not a lot is known yet.

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"650 smooth".....If only they had split right when the 400's came out..... :basshead: 

 

Well not HD650 smooth, HD650 are boringly smooth, but with EQ and the "jergmod extreme, broken pads mod" I have not actually noticed any sibilance since it happened, I used to listen to them for an hour or two and then take them off because they were hurting my ears, also only used them for some genres as vocals sounded bad most of the time, now I have an EQ for metal and that sort of music (with a bump around 1.2 > 5khz) and an EQ for electronic music (less upper midrange and more bass), and I like them for all genres as they do not sound "tizzy" or sibilant at all, whereas before at anything other than low/med volume they basically destroyed my eardrums after an hour and did not sound good with anything except electronic music. Now I can use them for hours with no problems. The Jergmod's and EQ made a big difference, but now the pads split on the sides the treble does not bother me at all, also there is no hollow sound to them or the glare in the midrange, probably some areas are worse slightly such as soundstage and imaging / clarity, but I do not notice much difference and actually prefer them with the split/broken pads!

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Originally Posted by kernel8888 View Post

When i made my jergpads following modulars instructions, i made my damping holes very large, to the point that there is more foam surface than pleather, and i've heard similar results.

 

Mine have split up the insides (the bit you can see between the top / bottom of pads) where your ears fit (does not look good but I don't care), the sound is probably slightly worse technically but to me it sounds better as the only problem I had with the HE400 was the treble sibilance and "tizzy" sound. I think HIFIMAN made some excellent planar drivers etc. but did not put much effort into the pads, to be honest when I first tried the HE400 with stock pleather / velour pads, I was very disappointed and was going to return them, but now i like them a lot, except for the stupid cable which needs replacing but I am not spending £80 on a HIFIMAN cable. Stock HE400 = hollow, harsh, sibilant etc. HE400 + EQ = Big improvement but still have the same problems, HE400 + most of the inner foam exposed on the pads = Not hollow, not harsh at all. The proper jergpads with velour and damping probably even better but I am poor so I am currently happy with my broken pads  :biggrin:


Edited by nicholars - 4/1/14 at 3:29am
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

....., now I have an EQ for metal and that sort of music (with a bump around 1.2 > 5khz) and an EQ for electronic music (less upper midrange and more bass), and I like them for all genres .....

Mind sharing your presets?

 

Thanks

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Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

Mind sharing your presets?

 

Thanks

 

Get "sinegen" and measure it to your own preferences, because everyones ears / hearing / drivers will be different....  ~1.2khz > 6khz need a boost for vocals and guitars and ~7.5khz and ~12.5khz need dips to remove the treble problems. Electronic music = more bass and less upper midrange, guitars / vocals etc. 2-3db boost at ~1.2>6khz, you really need to measure your own headphones / hearing using Sinegen as your hearing / headphones are probably different to mine.

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