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Originally Posted by rodweb View Post


I think you get used to the weight, the main problem to me is the side pressure (with stock pads).

 

Do you mean the clamp is tight?  If that's the case, that would be great for me

post #16802 of 18153
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Originally Posted by countolaf View Post
 

I'm sort of looking at this headphone really closely and my other option is the Beyerdynamic DT 880 (250 ohm). I read that the DT880 is a fast-sounding headphone which I like but I'm quite worried about it overly lacking warmth on the midrange/upper bass. On the other hand, the HE-400 I heard is dark-sounding which makes me worry a bit. I understand that the description of dark could be relative to Hifiman's other higher-end products but I'm interested to hear an opinion from someone who has experience on both of them. Would you consider HE-400 detailed-sounding compared to the DT 880?

 

I have not ventured that much into open headphones (other than owning Grado and Superlux) so I'm quite interested into moving into this area.

 

Tl;dr Which is one more airy and open-sounding? How does the strength of one compares to the other headphone?

Both are great and have their place ...,880s (250) are more natural and have plenty of bass but they are a bit on the bright side -it all depends from the recording and source,-they really shine when paired with OTL 
400s on the other hand are a lot of fun when listening to electronic,dubstep,etc ,I think most are misinterpreting the bass when it comes to 400s->..for me this cans have fairly large soundstage with "slam" type of bass and yes they are a bit on the dark side ,both cans especially 400s(they will sound very dark at the beginning ) need to burn in 

Bottom line is source ..if you going to pair it with high Impedant OTL I would recommend 880s if not it's pretty much about the music you listening to

P.S. both will probably require ear pad change-880s have very soft valuer-might be touching your ears and 400s leather and can get uncomfortable after a while

both can be replaced for abour $10+ shipping (black velour )  


Edited by spacequeen7 - 3/23/14 at 11:44am
post #16803 of 18153
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Originally Posted by aural bliss View Post

Do you mean the clamp is tight?  If that's the case, that would be great for me
Exactly. And you can bend the headband a bit to loose it and also swap to velour pads for better comfort.
post #16804 of 18153

For any Alt/Indie fans...  IAMX does amazingly with these headphones.  I'm sure I've said it before, but this can compliments this band quite well.

post #16805 of 18153
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Originally Posted by spacequeen7 View Post
 

Both are great and have their place ...,880s (250) are more natural and have plenty of bass but they are a bit on the bright side -it all depends from the recording and source,-they really shine when paired with OTL 
400s on the other hand are a lot of fun when listening to electronic,dubstep,etc ,I think most are misinterpreting the bass when it comes to 400s->..for me this cans have fairly large soundstage with "slam" type of bass and yes they are a bit on the dark side ,both cans especially 400s(they will sound very dark at the beginning ) need to burn in 

Bottom line is source ..if you going to pair it with high Impedant OTL I would recommend 880s if not it's pretty much about the music you listening to

P.S. both will probably require ear pad change-880s have very soft valuer-might be touching your ears and 400s leather and can get uncomfortable after a while

both can be replaced for abour $10+ shipping (black velour )  


Thanks. I have a JDS Labs O2 to power but I'm also getting a Hifiman EF-2A tube amp.

 

I like a fast-sounding headphone and while DT 880 seems to fit that description more, I'm worried that the midrange might sound cold or not resolving. I also don't like it to sound too thin and lean but if a tube amp helps on that, then I'm fine. But then again I like Etymotic iems and didn't find them too lean so maybe I would like it as well.

 

As for the HE-400, I don't mind it being dark as long as it's not hindering detail retrieval and the midrange is a bit warm. I should add that I'm also interested in general with planar cans and what they bring differently from dynamic driver headphones.

post #16806 of 18153
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Originally Posted by countolaf View Post
 


Thanks. I have a JDS Labs O2 to power but I'm also getting a Hifiman EF-2A tube amp.

 

I like a fast-sounding headphone and while DT 880 seems to fit that description more, I'm worried that the midrange might sound cold or not resolving. I also don't like it to sound too thin and lean but if a tube amp helps on that, then I'm fine. But then again I like Etymotic iems and didn't find them too lean so maybe I would like it as well.

 

As for the HE-400, I don't mind it being dark as long as it's not hindering detail retrieval and the midrange is a bit warm. I should add that I'm also interested in general with planar cans and what they bring differently from dynamic driver headphones.


To be short, then, you are going to love the HE-400. Not exactly what I consider "warm" (more like "neutral" unless with modded pleathers), the speed is awesome. Very detailed and punchy with the O2. Upper mid-range "suckout" actually tams a lot grating frequencies IMHO.

 

But I think others here would argue that the HE-500 are the place to go if you want the lushest midrange.

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It looks like my HE400's left and right channel are reversed. I m wearing them as per L and R indication on headphone. With my onboard Realtek sound card, using Configure, when i click on left speaker, sound plays in right channel and similarly the right plays on left.

 

Is this a problem with headphones? Shud i get it exchanged?


Edited by maheeinfy - 3/24/14 at 7:55pm
post #16808 of 18153
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Originally Posted by maheeinfy View Post

It looks like my HE400's left and right channel are reversed. I m wearing them as per L and R indication on headphone. With my onboard Realtek sound card, using Configure, when i click on left speaker, sound plays in right channel and similarly the right plays on left.



 



Is this a problem with headphones? Shud i get it exchanged?


 



Switch the cable connectors. Problem solved.
post #16809 of 18153
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by maheeinfy View Post
 

It looks like my HE400's left and right channel are reversed. I m wearing them as per L and R indication on headphone. With my onboard Realtek sound card, using Configure, when i click on left speaker, sound plays in right channel and similarly the right plays on left.

 

Is this a problem with headphones? Shud i get it exchanged?

 

Is it possible that you have your IC's reversed?

post #16810 of 18153
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Originally Posted by bleudeciel16 View Post
 

 

I had the same issue.  Highs were harsh, sounded like I was in a tunnel, and there was no soundstage, and bass was actually deeper but lower in intensity than the 650's, so I returned them.  I was told mods can fix some of those issues but I couldn't be bothered to cut apart my brand new headphones.  If you like the sennheiser sound (open, airy, warm, COMFORTABLE, LIGHT, with a huge soundstage), it's hard to warm up to cans like these he-400's.  For the price, they're by no means bad cans.  Great cans actually.  The sound just doesn't suit my taste.

I just picked up some used HD650's and have to say I see what all the hype is about with these classic cans. They are FAR more comfortable for long hours of use (did a 5 hour session when I got home) and no fatigue. They also keep up and pass the HE-400's in many of my recordings from different genre (omg Jazz <3). But when it comes to my EDM I start missing me HE-400's again. I'll keep listening to both cans and probably end up keeping both for when I want to switch.


Edited by DwayneBT - 3/26/14 at 1:16pm
post #16811 of 18153
Thread Starter 

^^ If you want to feel your jaw hit the floor, get the Bottlehead Crack to amp the 650's. :eek:

post #16812 of 18153

I will be skipping the upcoming 400i/560 release.  The LCD-XC is everything I've wanted in a headphone.  Now time to save up.

post #16813 of 18153
Thread Starter 

The xc is a really fine hp, BUT IMO the lcd-x is appreciably better across the signature, lighter and more comfortable. And $100 cheaper...


Edited by MattTCG - 3/26/14 at 12:49pm
post #16814 of 18153
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Originally Posted by DwayneBT View Post
 

I'm fortunate like yourself to

I just picked up some used HD650's and have to say I see what all the hype is about with these classic cans. They are FAR more comfortable for long hours of use (did a 5 hour session when I got home) and no fatigue. They also keep up and pass the HE-400's in many of my recordings from different genre (omg Jazz <3). But when it comes to my EDM I start missing me HE-400's again. I'll keep listening to both cans and probably end up keeping both for when I want to switch.

 

 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

^^ If you want to feel your jaw hit the floor, get the Bottlehead Crack to amp the 650's. :eek:


Yep and yep. The HE-400's dont even come close to the HD-650 and Id imagine the HD-600. Though to be fair, they are very different cans for enjoying different kinds of music. You wont get the bass you get out of the HE-400 in the HD-650, and you wont get everything else thats better in the HD-650 from the HE-400. The HD-650 is really a kind of in between the HE-400 and the HE-500. I have both the HE-500 and the HD-650 with proper amps and they each shine with certain types of music.

post #16815 of 18153
Same amount of detail between the x and xc? The xc didn't have the amount of detail as the 3 which sucks.
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