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post #16786 of 18135

I have ATH-M50s that I use at work and those were the first real cans that I ever owned. I then bought the HE-400 for use at home and I really enjoy listening to music on those. As others as have said the treble can be a bit harsh and I have noticed this as well compared to the M50. That is the only real downside I have noticed so far. However I do find myself just sitting in my desk chair and enjoying the music from my HE400. I did EQ them a bit to tone down the treble (6k-10k) range and they sound great. I listen to rock (classic, alt, indie) and R&B and they do well. 

 

I have my HE400 being driving by the Schiit Magni/Modi stack.

post #16787 of 18135
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

I have ATH-M50s that I use at work and those were the first real cans that I ever owned. I then bought the HE-400 for use at home and I really enjoy listening to music on those. As others as have said the treble can be a bit harsh and I have noticed this as well compared to the M50. That is the only real downside I have noticed so far. However I do find myself just sitting in my desk chair and enjoying the music from my HE400. I did EQ them a bit to tone down the treble (6k-10k) range and they sound great. I listen to rock (classic, alt, indie) and R&B and they do well. 

 

I have my HE400 being driving by the Schiit Magni/Modi stack.


How do You find the Schiit stack with He-400? I'm interested in purchasing an amp For my Hifiman :-)


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post #16788 of 18135

I like it so far. The only other dac/amp that I have used is the E17 for my M50 so may be hard for me to give a proper comparison. I mainly got the Schiit stack on recommendations from others on this thread.. It was either the Schiit stack or the O2+Odac..

post #16789 of 18135
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Originally Posted by teohouse88 View Post

How do You find the Schiit stack with He-400? I'm interested in purchasing an amp For my Hifiman :-)


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To jump in here, I find the magni to do well with the HE400. However when it's combined with the modi the treble becomes a bit harsh. It also seems to close down the sound stage as well.

But then, that's just my opinion and I'll admit I'm a bit treble sensitive. My step up schiit stack (uber bifrost and lyr) is great with these but that's also a substantial step up in cost as well. The magni is a surprising amp for the cost, I just didn't find the modi to offer the same bang per buck.
post #16790 of 18135

Does anyone know if this site is off a lot on measurements ?

I was surprised where the 400's sat in bass measurements vs the other cans....

 

post #16791 of 18135

Interesting that you say that the modi adds more treble. I am not sure if I noticed it more with or without the modi in-line. I think the harsh treble was always there. I do find that I have to EQ to tone it down but they sound great once I do that. 

post #16792 of 18135
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post
 

Does anyone know if this site is off a lot on measurements ?

I was surprised where the 400's sat in bass measurements vs the other cans....

 

 

 

The HE-400 is not level matched there to take into consideration an entire DB reading.  All the graphs are level matched based off a 1khz signal.  If you raise the HE-400 measurement up so that its bass aligns with the LCD2 you'll get a better idea of what it looks like.

post #16793 of 18135
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Originally Posted by utee05 View Post

Interesting that you say that the modi adds more treble. I am not sure if I noticed it more with or without the modi in-line. I think the harsh treble was always there. I do find that I have to EQ to tone it down but they sound great once I do that. 

Yeah, that was just my experience that with the modi the treble seemed to be bumped up a bit compared to other sources. Admittedly I haven't used the modi in some time as I did not particularly enjoy the sound and quickly rushed out to find a source that was closer to my preferences. But I can say nothing but good things about the magni at its price. To each their own.
post #16794 of 18135
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post

Does anyone know if this site is off a lot on measurements ?
I was surprised where the 400's sat in bass measurements vs the other cans....


My HP50s certainly have more bass presence than my HE400s.
post #16795 of 18135

What revisions are these headphones at now? Haven't been on here in a long time, are they still using the revision 2's as the prime he-400?

post #16796 of 18135

I'm sort of looking at this headphone really closely and my other option is the Beyerdynamic DT 880 (250 ohm). I read that the DT880 is a fast-sounding headphone which I like but I'm quite worried about it overly lacking warmth on the midrange/upper bass. On the other hand, the HE-400 I heard is dark-sounding which makes me worry a bit. I understand that the description of dark could be relative to Hifiman's other higher-end products but I'm interested to hear an opinion from someone who has experience on both of them. Would you consider HE-400 detailed-sounding compared to the DT 880?

 

I have not ventured that much into open headphones (other than owning Grado and Superlux) so I'm quite interested into moving into this area.

 

Tl;dr Which is one more airy and open-sounding? How does the strength of one compares to the other headphone?

post #16797 of 18135
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Originally Posted by countolaf View Post

I'm sort of looking at this headphone really closely and my other option is the Beyerdynamic DT 880 (250 ohm). I read that the DT880 is a fast-sounding headphone which I like but I'm quite worried about it overly lacking warmth on the midrange/upper bass. On the other hand, the HE-400 I heard is dark-sounding which makes me worry a bit. I understand that the description of dark could be relative to Hifiman's other higher-end products but I'm interested to hear an opinion from someone who has experience on both of them. Would you consider HE-400 detailed-sounding compared to the DT 880?

I have not ventured that much into open headphones (other than owning Grado and Superlux) so I'm quite interested into moving into this area.

Tl;dr Which is one more airy and open-sounding? How does the strength of one compares to the other headphone?
I got my DT880 @600 Ohms this week and they actually have a little more bass than the HE-400. Both have a good level of detail, at least with the songs I listened to, I could not find anything missing with the DT880, and they are fast enough for me (pop, rock, acoustic, not extremely fast metal).

The DT880 definitely don't lack on the midrange, but they are bright where the HE-400 is warm with a treble peak.

Because of that, I find the DT880 better balanced overall, not linear neutral bass and without that treble peak the HE-400 have.

The HE-400 sounds dark and a little distant to me, so they are more airy and give the impression of being more open too.

Also consider that I don't have a good amp for the DT880 yet, so my impressions may change when I do.
post #16798 of 18135

Hi all,

 

I'm interested in these headphones.  On paper, they seem heavy though: 440g.  How is this after 1+hours

post #16799 of 18135

I personally don't find it too bad weight-wise, but I must admit after wearing 'em awhile, switching to lighter headphones does feel pretty good.

post #16800 of 18135
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Originally Posted by aural bliss View Post

Hi all,

I'm interested in these headphones.  On paper, they seem heavy though: 440g.  How is this after 1+hours
I think you get used to the weight, the main problem to me is the side pressure (with stock pads).
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