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I used to like the D2000's low bass distortion but not after I switched over to HE-400.  It's a very sloppy bass presentation.

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Reverb then... some subwoofers or closed headphones I think the reverb can sound good. Technically it is distortion, but if done well then it can sound good, for example Denon D2000.


Well the thing is, if music has good DR and the passages aren't too complicated, the decay of the HE500 makes it sound godly. But it also can be bad for some poor recorded material and very complicated passages as IMO it tends to make things feel too closed in, and keeps it from feeling nice and open.

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I do like the HE400 in almost every way, except the treble. If they had better treble they would be perfect, but with my recent tweakidge with the EQ and filters the treble sounds alright now. Did anyone try the filters on ElectriQ they do seem to make the treble sound more natural, I am sure I am not imagining it!


Which pads are you using right now, with that EQ BTW?

 

I figured out how to justify new phones also. I've never had a good pair of closed headphones before . . . :D


Edited by MrMateoHead - 3/5/14 at 11:19am
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Which pads are you using right now, with that EQ BTW?

 

I figured out how to justify new phones also. I've never had a good pair of closed headphones before . . . :D

 

I am using my DIY modded jergpads, but one pad has a split in it, although for some reason this does not make that much difference to the SQ. Need to get some new pads for them really and a new cable but I do not want to spend any more money on them so I will have to live with a split pad and adjusting the cable until I can afford something else, it seems nobody wants to buy my HE400 at a price I am happy with, anything under £199 delivered is not worth it for me. Are there new hifiman pads out now for the H400i? Might try some of those..

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Have you tried 70% of the retail value shipped?  That's the rule of thumb I go by for well-used products and it's worked out good.  Things get sold within a couple of hours.

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I am using my DIY modded jergpads, but one pad has a split in it, although for some reason this does not make that much difference to the SQ. Need to get some new pads for them really and a new cable but I do not want to spend any more money on them so I will have to live with a split pad and adjusting the cable until I can afford something else, it seems nobody wants to buy my HE400 at a price I am happy with, anything under £199 delivered is not worth it for me. Are there new hifiman pads out now for the H400i? Might try some of those..


You really should try switching to the velours after fussing with the pleathers so long. For $10, EQ or not, they are the most balanced, the least "ringy", and the treble is less "peaky". You lose that touch of "warmth" that the pleathers seem to give, but its worth it, IMO. I'm done with the pleathers modded or not - they are just sub-optimal.

 

199 pounds is what, $260 USD? That's pushing it considering brand new is now $300. I'd think it'd be lucky to see $200. I'm not sinking any more into mine either (though I would go for a new cable). But if I could sell them + my Senns for about $200-$300 I suppose that would be good enough despite the heavy losses I'd be taking. It isn't clear I could stick with Hifiman at this point - they've sketched me out with the short warranty and somewhat obvious shortcomings (cables coming apart, and lousy SMC connectors that are an unnecessary PITA). Unclear if any of that is going away with the new generation.

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I used to like the D2000's low bass distortion but not after I switched over to HE-400.  It's a very sloppy bass presentation.

 

I got a chance to pick up the d7k for a nice price several months ago. It was a big letdown for me especially with regard to the bass presentation after spending so much time with planar magnetics. 

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You really should try switching to the velours after fussing with the pleathers so long. For $10, EQ or not, they are the most balanced, the least "ringy", and the treble is less "peaky". You lose that touch of "warmth" that the pleathers seem to give, but its worth it, IMO. I'm done with the pleathers modded or not - they are just sub-optimal.

 

199 pounds is what, $260 USD? That's pushing it considering brand new is now $300. I'd think it'd be lucky to see $200. I'm not sinking any more into mine either (though I would go for a new cable). But if I could sell them + my Senns for about $200-$300 I suppose that would be good enough despite the heavy losses I'd be taking. It isn't clear I could stick with Hifiman at this point - they've sketched me out with the short warranty and somewhat obvious shortcomings (cables coming apart, and lousy SMC connectors that are an unnecessary PITA). Unclear if any of that is going away with the new generation.

 

$$$ compared to £££ is not really relevant in the UK because you cannot import things without paying postage, tax and duty, so £199 is about the same as $199 dollars US.

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I do like the HE400 in almost every way, except the treble. If they had better treble they would be perfect, but with my recent tweakidge with the EQ and filters the treble sounds alright now. Did anyone try the filters on ElectriQ they do seem to make the treble sound more natural, I am sure I am not imagining it!


Which pads are you using right now, with that EQ BTW?

I figured out how to justify new phones also. I've never had a good pair of closed headphones before . . . biggrin.gif
You MUST try the NAD HP50s then. I implore you (and everyone else who reads this!).
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You MUST try the NAD HP50s then. I implore you (and everyone else who reads this!).

 

Yes I want to try the HP50 as I am a massive fan of NAD, But I am poor ATM and cannot afford them unless someone wants to buy my HE400.

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Download the install file at the end of the article here:

 

http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/vst-plugins/eqs-filters/electri-q/

 

Install it and navigate to "C:\Program Files (x86)\VstPlugins" or "C:\Program Files\VstPlugins" (depending on what Windows you have). Here is the posihfopit dll you need. Drop this file into your VST directory which you specified when you installed George Yohng's VST wrapper. Mine is at "C:\Program Files (x86)\foobar2000\VST" btw. I specified this location when I installed VST. You should now be able to launch it from the system tray the next time you launch foobar.

 

If anyone has further problems PM me. I don't want to stray too far off HE-400 discussion.

That worked.  Thanks a lot!  

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You MUST try the NAD HP50s then. I implore you (and everyone else who reads this!).

Yes I want to try the HP50 as I am a massive fan of NAD, But I am poor ATM and cannot afford them unless someone wants to buy my HE400.
I know is not easy with this place, but just sit it out and save for a while. Enjoy what you already have whilst bearing in mind that 99% of the population won't even hear a pair of cans the quality of the HE400s during their lifetime.
post #16648 of 18084
The NADs will still be around by the time you get to them. They'll probably be cheaper as well. They've ended my search for a closed can.
post #16649 of 18084

I doubt the HP50 will be better than the HE400 for electronic anyway? but I want a pair that are better for other genres, vocals, guitars etc. when I have some more money I may end up keeping the HE400 for electronic and getting another pair for other genres. Every NAD product I have owned has been extremely good, I had the NAD 3020a, 315bee and now the 326bee which is a beast of an amplifier. I tried other amps, cambridge audio, Marantz etc. but the NAD's are always better.


Edited by nicholars - 3/5/14 at 6:45pm
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The cables I ordered on ebay came.  It's much much more ergonomic than the stock cable, also much more attractive.

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