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That's an interesting review, perhaps the most revealing part is the new headphones are designed to address the fatigue people reported. Is this the fatigue from wearing them (weight) or the fatigue from the frequency response- the treble spike of the HE400? If the 400i are designed specifically to address the treble fatigue, it seems like there would be a very noticeable change in sound quality.
Edited by Zuckfun - 1/15/14 at 6:58pm
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That's an interesting review, perhaps the most revealing part is the new headphones are designed to address the fatigue people reported. Is this the fatigue from wearing them (weight) or the fatigue from the frequency response- the treble spike of the HE400? If the 400i are designed specifically to address the treble fatigue, it seems like there would be a very noticeable change in sound quality.


Review?! NO NO NO there was no review there! That was one of my POINTS! I wasnt going to try and "review" the headphones in anyway, just tell you guys what I saw, what the HiFiMan people told me and what I thought about the whole thing. I really didnt say anything about the sound or much that should be taken as reviewing anything. I specifically did NOT want to do that.

post #16038 of 18084
Well I just ordered a Schiit M&M stack. Can't wait to pair it with my he 400s.

I would have liked to get a more extravagant amp/dac combo but the budget just wouldn't stretch. From what I've read, they will pair qute well with the he 400s. And that's good enough for me, nothing an eq can't fix eh. wink.gif
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That's an interesting review, perhaps the most revealing part is the new headphones are designed to address the fatigue people reported. Is this the fatigue from wearing them (weight) or the fatigue from the frequency response- the treble spike of the HE400? If the 400i are designed specifically to address the treble fatigue, it seems like there would be a very noticeable change in sound quality.
 

Review?! NO NO NO there was no review there! That was one of my POINTS! I wasnt going to try and "review" the headphones in anyway, just tell you guys what I saw, what the HiFiMan people told me and what I thought about the whole thing. I really didnt say anything about the sound or much that should be taken as reviewing anything. I specifically did NOT want to do that.

 

hahaah!!!! rotfl. :D heh

post #16040 of 18084

switching from my momentum on ear to he400 gives me more space, more separation, more depth... lifelike sound... very much satisfied

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Thanks jshaffe and jerg  for the dimensions of the grill. Bought myself a little mesh box and cut out the circles. Glued on some nylon for hair/air crap lol. I think it looks fantastic apart from the fact that I just noticed it is not sitting at the right angle. haha, my OCD will have to fix that! 

 

I think it's a success though :) 

 

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Thanks jshaffe and jerg  for the dimensions of the grill. Bought myself a little mesh box and cut out the circles. Glued on some nylon for hair/air crap lol. I think it looks fantastic apart from the fact that I just noticed it is not sitting at the right angle. haha, my OCD will have to fix that! 

 

I think it's a success though :) 

 

 

Those look sweet. Other than the SQ improvement, my favorite thing about the grill mod is being able to see the magnets an drivers because they're so unique looking.

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Those look sweet. Other than the SQ improvement, my favorite thing about the grill mod is being able to see the magnets an drivers because they're so unique looking.

Spent the week at my parent's place. My mom says they look much better... almost steam punk. Not sure about the steampunk but they deffinately do look better :D. The nyl;on makes me feel better lol.

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Does it void the warranty by modding the grill?
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So what are the trade-offs of going with a Single-Sided Planar design?

 

You have half the magnet, presumably half the X-Max, but way less obstructed sound leaving the diaphragm.

 

And as far as fatigue is concerned, I think that is one part comfort, and one part sound. The resonance or "ringing" has been a lot more problematic for me than the treble / overall frequency response. So, hopefully, they got better damping results.

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Does it void the warranty by modding the grill?

Nope. Well it's very easily reversed :-)
post #16047 of 18084
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Does it void the warranty by modding the grill?

Not unless you throw away the original grills. Even if that happens, just contact em and buy a pair of replacement grills for pretty cheap.

 

HFM is VERY accommodating with regards to warranty legitimacy, heck they can even accommodate you if you are out of warranty.

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Not unless you throw away the original grills. Even if that happens, just contact em and buy a pair of replacement grills for pretty cheap.

 

HFM is VERY accommodating with regards to warranty legitimacy, heck they can even accommodate you if you are out of warranty.

YUP my hm801 died they sold me anotehr warrenty for $100 then replaced the Hm801 xD

 

also... i go tmy D2k's [finally]

 

and I have to say I like em over the HE 400. not as fast but... even un modded they have a touch more thump. THe HE 400 I had to eq for EDM, the D2k thus far needs no such eq

 

mine is atm Wood Back D7k cabled. It's going to be Mark L Modded, Alpha Padded and Balanced Recabled evetually... at which point I think it'll surpass the HE 400  imo

 

it's not as clear but it's... more to my tastes 

post #16049 of 18084
Well I may consider modding the grills and ear pads, but I haven't had a proper listen to them yet, my replacement cable hasn't arrived and my amp won't arrive till next Thursday.
post #16050 of 18084
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Not unless you throw away the original grills. Even if that happens, just contact em and buy a pair of replacement grills for pretty cheap.

 

HFM is VERY accommodating with regards to warranty legitimacy, heck they can even accommodate you if you are out of warranty.


That is not true. I was only about 1-2 months out of warranty, and they wouldn't replace my cable which is slowly shedding its jacket in the L and R channels.

 

They would "accommodate me" by letting me blow $100 bucks on a new cable. Ya, right.

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