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post #15976 of 20023

funny you mentioned noise gates as it has been used in producing for a long time and sometimes i swear there are producers that don't know what it is. Been an issue of mine for a while

post #15977 of 20023

Any folk/rock/etc (i.e. not rap/metal) songs that show off these guys?

post #15978 of 20023
Well, for the first time ever, I decided to listen to a tv show through headphones as supposed to the soundbar I've been using for years... It is a bit shocking just how much doing this brings the background music forward. I'm really quite impressed, and at the same time it just feels so strange! The only comparison I can make to a similar experience would be the first time wearing glasses 10 or so years ago, which was the first time my poor depth perception has been corrected, so everything just felt so much more real than before.
post #15979 of 20023
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Any folk/rock/etc (i.e. not rap/metal) songs that show off these guys?


Virtually anything by Steven Wilson / Porcupine Tree. I also really enjoyed Jack White's album. Lord Huron. Susan Tedeschi. The Black Crowes Croweolegy is an excellent recording if you like the band. The Lumineers. I actually really like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on these phones - particularly the newer albums.

 

But lately I've been on Pandora and just can't tell you what I'm listening to - a lot of it is just weird. Meaning, I am weird.

post #15980 of 20023
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A bit OT...

Oh and some of you were asking about headphone tracks, heres another..."Lenny" by SRV.  Some of that hum and background buzz you hear on this tune (as well as Little Wing) is the hum of his guitar amps, and its in the recording.  IMHO its one of the characteristics of SRV and I think adds to the charm of his music.  he didn't use noise gates or anything like that in either his signal chain or studio processing... just pure tones, AC buzz and all.  It wouldn't surprise me if the reverberation in this track is the natural room acoustics and not post-processing effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLTcxM6XoMA

 

Conversely... someone was mentioning distortions and poorly recorded tracks.  Heres my personal worst offender, from one of my favorite bands sadly.  You can hear it in the intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kJWkmtjoX4

I don't really hear distortion with Rush - I mean, it sounds intentional. But I didn't really like the effect, either.

post #15981 of 20023

Hey,

 

Can any of you guys chime in on this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/698898/upgrade-from-schiit-magni#post_10166172

 

I'm trying to figure out if there is much of an improvement to be had with the HE-400 by upgrading from a Magni to a more expensive amp.

 

Thanks. 

post #15982 of 20023

I can't say for the vali, but from going from Magni to Asgard2 there isn't much improvement.  With the Uber Bifrost feeding the Asgard2 there's a more noticeable improvement, but it's not like the HE-400s become transformed.

post #15983 of 20023
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

I can't say for the vali, but from going from Magni to Asgard2 there isn't much improvement.  With the Uber Bifrost feeding the Asgard2 there's a more noticeable improvement, but it's not like the HE-400s become transformed.

so you think going from the Modi to the Bifrost (with Uber) would be a bigger improvement than going from a Magni to something like the Asgard2?

post #15984 of 20023

Yes, but only if your amp is capable of scaling with the dac change... and likewise headphones.  HE-400 doesn't have the highest ceiling around.

post #15985 of 20023

and you think the Magni won't be good enough to scale with the Bifrost?

 

if so then in order to get a decent upgrade in the SQ of the Headphones i will need a new amp and DAC, and you say the the HE-400 doesn't scale too much with better equipment so it would probably be somewhat pointless to invest another chunk of money in a new amp and DAC without going to a higher end headphone.

 

is that about right?  

post #15986 of 20023

Real talk:

 

Unless you reaaally like the sound signature of the HE-400, your money is best spent in getting a new headphone if you're looking fora chunk in sound quality increase.

post #15987 of 20023
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Originally Posted by Ginron View Post
 

and you think the Magni won't be good enough to scale with the Bifrost?

 

if so then in order to get a decent upgrade in the SQ of the Headphones i will need a new amp and DAC, and you say the the HE-400 doesn't scale too much with better equipment so it would probably be somewhat pointless to invest another chunk of money in a new amp and DAC without going to a higher end headphone.

 

is that about right?  

Its the law of diminishing returns. To get great sound you generally need all three pieces of the puzzle. Each improvement gets smaller when you upgrade.

post #15988 of 20023
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Real talk:

 

Unless you reaaally like the sound signature of the HE-400, your money is best spent in getting a new headphone if you're looking fora chunk in sound quality increase.

Real talk is good thanks. :D

post #15989 of 20023
So if there isn't much benefit going from the Magni to the Asgard 2 what about from going to the Lyr?
post #15990 of 20023
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Originally Posted by jshaffe View Post
 

Its the law of diminishing returns. To get great sound you generally need all three pieces of the puzzle. Each improvement gets smaller when you upgrade.


yea, you'll get most sound quality improvement upgrading headphones. then dac/amp.

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