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post #15646 of 17922

Huh, Ill order the Velour pads when I order the connectors to make a new cable. If they tame the highs a bit that might make these cans less fatiguing depending on what Im listening to through them.

post #15647 of 17922
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Originally Posted by Za Warudo View Post
 

Switched from pleather to velour.  Initial impressions is that it seemed to tame the treble slightly.  'Kangaroo' by Big Star sounds slightly less harsh and piercing.  Similarly the fuzz and noise in 'Before We Begin' by Broadcast doesn't irritate my ears as much.  I might have to do the Jergpad mod to reduce the harshness further.  

 

Btw the plastic tabs on the pads look really flimsy.  I can't imagine them lasting if I swap them a few more times.

I wouldn't worry too much about the tabs. I have swapped pads about 4 times already and not broken anything. But then again, it always pays to be careful. Worst case scenario, you lose $10-$20 bucks depending on which pad you break.

 

The major difference in velour, to me, is that it is more comfortable, doesn't sweat in the summer or "stick" in the winter. Resonance seems to be the main issue with the pleathers, probably a result of the less porous fabric and denser memory foam. I too find the velours to be, probably, smoother overall and less fatiguing. But the modded pleathers have a slight warmth and richness which is hard to ignore.

post #15648 of 17922

Hi folks. my SE 400 has just shipped from your side of the pond.  Although i've read many reviews, details of sound stage and imaging is lacking for me, so i'd like to know,

what to expect from these phones, soundstage and imaging wise compared to AKG k702 or Senns 650.  Can I also ask you for your interpretation of sound stage, as i  tend to hear vocals in above phones as coming from just behind and above my head,  which i don't thing is the norm from what i've read. Anyway I'd be interested in peoples experiences with these phones with regard soundstage and imaging

Happy new year to all of you

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post #15649 of 17922

My pair of modulor jergpads finally came in today. If anyone's interested in my initial impressions you can take a look in the main jergpad thread here.

post #15650 of 17922
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Originally Posted by xylolz View Post
 

Hi folks. my SE 400 has just shipped from your side of the pond.  Although i've read many reviews, details of sound stage and imaging is lacking for me, so i'd like to know,

what to expect from these phones, soundstage and imaging wise compared to AKG k702 or Senns 650.  Can I also ask you for your interpretation of sound stage, as i  tend to hear vocals in above phones as coming from just behind and above my head,  which i don't thing is the norm from what i've read. Anyway I'd be interested in peoples experiences with these phones with regard soundstage and imaging

Happy new year to all of you

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IMO and compared to the Q701:

First, my interpretation of the term is that soundstage refers to the location of sounds in space. This includes how far away they seem to be from the listener and from each other, and their relative positions up, down, left, right, front and back. Front and back meaning in front of me and behind me -- some people use these terms to refer to the front or rear of an imaginary stage that is in front of the listener. To me, these are different distances in the front direction. To me, imaging is a component of soundstage that refers to how clear and specific the location of sounds appears to be. 

Anyway...

I think the HE-400 soundstage is smaller than the Q701 soundstage. The HE-400 almost makes the music sound like it's inside my head, whereas the Q701 gave me the impression of listening to music through speakers that are a few feet away from me. However, I find the imaging of the HE-400 to be much more precise. The depth dimension in particular is more defined, and the HE-400 separates different layers of sounds more clearly. The HE-400 also has a more solid sense of center where the left and right channels merge. I got the feeling that the Q701 was a little fuzzy in the center. 

Pictorial analogy:

The Q701 has a circular ring of sound a few feet away from your head. It is wide and has a sense of distance from you, but most of the sound appears to be about the same distance from you. There isn't much sense of depth, as the ring is hollow and its "band" is not very thick.

The HE-400 has a solid sphere of sound centered a bit forward of the center of your head. Some of the sound is outside your head and some is inside your head. The sound is closer and more intimate, but also more 3-D. 

post #15651 of 17922
Has anyone found a good travel case for these? Something i can put in my bag to bring to work and back.
post #15652 of 17922
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Originally Posted by Halonoonan View Post

Has anyone found a good travel case for these? Something i can put in my bag to bring to work and back.


Youre kidding right? The best travel case is the one MADE by HiFiMan FOR the HE series cans! LINK

 

 

 


Edited by ben_r_ - 1/3/14 at 10:56am
post #15653 of 17922
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post


Youre kidding right? The best travel case is the one MADE by HiFiMan FOR the HE series cans! LINK







Thanks. Didn't see that before.
post #15654 of 17922
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Originally Posted by Halonoonan View Post


Thanks. Didn't see that before.


No worries. Thinking about ordering one myself along with the velour pads and a pair of the connectors.

post #15655 of 17922
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No worries. Thinking about ordering one myself along with the velour pads and a pair of the connectors.

man I would be too scared to take these anywhere. wldn't want to lose em/break em

post #15656 of 17922
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

man I would be too scared to take these anywhere. wldn't want to lose em/break em


Eh, you get over that more and more as you get more expensive cans. These arent near my most expensive, so Im not really too worried about taking them out provided that they are in a safe padded case like the HiFiMan one.

post #15657 of 17922

Thanks very much manbear i appreciate your reply.  I agree pretty much with your experience of Q701 to my K702. With regard to imaging in front of me, which i have a problem with, at least with the senn 650, if i place the headband forward a bit more i can get the sense of the vocals coming from just in front of me but high up, like an open air concert with stage very high up i'd say. I hope the HE 400 works for me with it's imaging, or mine? as case maybe and thanks again.

PS, can other people pipe in with their experinces of soundstage compared to 702 and 650

post #15658 of 17922

with regard to above post i thought i quoted post no 15652, which explains things

post #15659 of 17922

Just opened my 400s after a month (month long vacation) . Purchased on BF. Compared to DT990 premium 250 first impressions -

 

1) Bass is clearer and not muddy like 990

2) A lot heavier than 990

3) Treble is not harsh like 990. 

 

Anything else I should look out for? I have used 400 for about an hour or two today :)

post #15660 of 17922
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Originally Posted by metaldood View Post
 

Just opened my 400s after a month (month long vacation) . Purchased on BF. Compared to DT990 premium 250 first impressions -

 

1) Bass is clearer and not muddy like 990

2) A lot heavier than 990

3) Treble is not harsh like 990. 

 

Anything else I should look out for? I have used 400 for about an hour or two today :)


Nice, if thats the case I wont bother getting the DT-990 Premiums. Those I was kicking around trying.

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