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post #15616 of 18107
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Originally Posted by FeelThaBeat View Post
 

Hello everyone, long time lurker first time poster.  Just a little background on my experience, I've been into the more mid-fi and hi-fi headphones and IEM's for about 4 or 5 years now. I started with headphones using the HD600 then went into an IEM faze because of the portability and convenience. I'm now back to HP's using a new pair of HD600's after I sold my old ones to a friend along with the HE-400.

 

I'm just wanting to know if anyone here has any experience with the Raccoon SG200 tube amp/dac? I'm wanting to try a decent tube amp that's not to much because I want to see if I like that so called "tube sound". I like the fact it has a dac because I currently don't have one so I use my Colorfly C3 with my little solid state amp and being able to use my computer would be a big plus. Looked at the Schiit Vali but I really think the SG200 is a better choice but I'd like to here what others think. So if any of you have heard the Raccoon SG200 any info you have about them would be very helpful.

 

I don't know much at all about the Raccoon that you mention. I've tried the Vali and you just won't find anything close to it at $128. At it's price point it gets my best recommendation. Please read the Vali thread and understand that it comes with some slight microphonic issues.

 

gL!!

post #15617 of 18107

I've read most of the Vali thread and it does seem like it has the signature I'd want so buying one and then getting a dac like the Modi would pretty nice though I'd want a little more power because I'm going to get either the HE-500 or LCD-2 and the SG200 has up to 2.7W which is plenty. I've found a review of the Raccoon SG200 though it was under a different name so that meas its a OEM product but the review was very positive, the review is on Headfonia and its the Uber Muzik Tiny Tube Dac and it has the same tubes and the TI TPA6120A2 Opamp chip.

 

I think I'm going to do some more searching and research of other amps because there's quite a few tube amps around $200 give or take but the Vali is on the short list, thanks for the help.

post #15618 of 18107

Would you guys recommend the Vali or Asgard 2 for the 400's?  I guess what I am trying to ask is if the Asgard 2 is worth the pretty penny. I know it has switchable gain and pre-amp outputs which the Vali lacks but I am unsure I will go in a direction where I need those features - pretty sure I won't but I am not 100% sure.   

post #15619 of 18107
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You will not get 2x the performance from the A2. In fact many will argue that in terms of pairing and ability to drives the he400 to a "musical level," the Vali will be better.

 

The A2 will give you the flexibility of a pre-amp and multiple gain switch. The Vali has that nice tube sound that sounds great, but you'll have to deal with the microphonics. 

post #15620 of 18107
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

You will not get 2x the performance from the A2. In fact many will argue that in terms of pairing and ability to drives the he400 to a "musical level," the Vali will be better.

 

The A2 will give you the flexibility of a pre-amp and multiple gain switch. The Vali has that nice tube sound that sounds great, but you'll have to deal with the microphonics. 

 

Not that I was asked, but I agree that the Asgard 2 would do a great job driving the HE-400's and has the added flexibility of its preamp outputs and the benefit of the gain switch. You may not "need" preamp outs now but down the road you may find this feature to come in handy and save you the cost of adding a preamp plus the gain switch makes driving IEM's a better fit with this amp. Frankly, the Asgard 2 is one Hell of a great deal for all features it has and the sound quality it provides. I think that you will find that you'll enjoy your HE-400's a lot more once they're driven by a more powerful amp. I know that you may get all the "volume" you want from an iPod or other MP3 player yet having an amp that can truly take control of the headphone can make a big difference in sound quality.

 

I primarily use the Lyr with my 400's and it makes for a great combination...that's probably why Schiit Audio uses the 400's and 500's with their amps at shows. I plan on picking up an Asgard 2 very soon to use as a headphone amp and preamp (to my Parasound A23 or A21) in my office system. 

 

Best of luck!

post #15621 of 18107

Howdy - anybody using  Beyer pads for HE-400? I already have Jergpads with velour top but I find my ears get way too hot in them. 

 

Anybody try DT 770\990 black\silver pads for HE-400? Are they smaller than Hifiman velours? Anything different sound-wise?

 

Any other pads I should consider?

post #15622 of 18107

I think I'm going to go ahead and get the Vali because it looks to have enough power for both the HE-400 and HD600 and should be able to power the HE-500 also. From what I've read about the signature of the Vali it sounds like a good foray into tube amps to see if I like the so called "tube sound". I'm also leaning toward getting the Modi or Loki for my dac and seeing as I probably wont us the DSD I'd get the Modi because they have the same input receiver and D/A conversion chips.

post #15623 of 18107
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Originally Posted by Bogatyr View Post
 

Howdy - anybody using  Beyer pads for HE-400? I already have Jergpads with velour top but I find my ears get way too hot in them. 

 

Anybody try DT 770\990 black\silver pads for HE-400? Are they smaller than Hifiman velours? Anything different sound-wise?

 

Any other pads I should consider?

These were the ones recommended below (EDT 770V), way way back in this thread if you were looking for Beyer pads.

They also include the foam dust cover for the driver. I managed to get them on before but a bit tight on the earpad ring from HFM. Other members suggested heating the plastic grip with a hairdryer to make it easier to go over the ring.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beyerdynamic-EDT-770-V-Replacement-DT770-DT-770-Pro-Headphones-Ear-Pads-Cushions-/360806021515?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item5401b6f98b


Edited by Lohb - 1/1/14 at 6:18pm
post #15624 of 18107

Got my HE-400 that i bought on BF and an upgrade over my HD558. Any headphone stand recommendations for it?

post #15625 of 18107
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Originally Posted by xAlias View Post
 

Got my HE-400 that i bought on BF and an upgrade over my HD558. Any headphone stand recommendations for it?


your head makes a great headphone stand for it!!!! :D

 

cosmos, kloud, and brainwavz has some sick stands under $20 lol. rocketfish stands are on sale at best buy. i don't understand how some stands are like $50+

post #15626 of 18107
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Originally Posted by Halonoonan View Post

Been following this thread for a while. Just sent my Beyerdynamic 880 back to Amazon yesterday. Once the return is processed I will be ordering a pair of HE-400. Propably pair it with a Vali. So excited, can't wait. Thanks for all the info in this thread.

This combo sounds great. Enjoying it for a week now.
post #15627 of 18107

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 In fact many will argue that in terms of pairing and ability to drives the he400 to a "musical level," the Vali will be better.

 

 

So the Vali will arguably sound better?  If you like the warmer sound?

 

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Originally Posted by KLJTech View Post
 

 

Not that I was asked, but I agree that the Asgard 2 would do a great job driving the HE-400's and has the added flexibility of its preamp outputs and the benefit of the gain switch. You may not "need" preamp outs now but down the road you may find this feature to come in handy and save you the cost of adding a preamp plus the gain switch makes driving IEM's a better fit with this amp. Frankly, the Asgard 2 is one Hell of a great deal for all features it has and the sound quality it provides. I think that you will find that you'll enjoy your HE-400's a lot more once they're driven by a more powerful amp. I know that you may get all the "volume" you want from an iPod or other MP3 player yet having an amp that can truly take control of the headphone can make a big difference in sound quality.

 

I primarily use the Lyr with my 400's and it makes for a great combination...that's probably why Schiit Audio uses the 400's and 500's with their amps at shows. I plan on picking up an Asgard 2 very soon to use as a headphone amp and preamp (to my Parasound A23 or A21) in my office system. 

 

Best of luck!

 
I would never drive these with my phone - it would be a crime :wink_face:.  Not to mention the plug doesn't fit in my phone because of the case I have on it. And I would love your Lyr for my 400's.  If you are not going to use it anymore I could take it off your hands for lets say $5 :atsmile:.
 
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 i don't understand how some stands are like $50+

 

:eek: For a stand!!!???


Edited by gidgiddonihah - 1/1/14 at 8:45pm
post #15628 of 18107

Hi guys,

 

New HE-400 owner here (and I'm fairly new to Head-Fi as well).

 

What are everyone's go to songs to really showcase these cans? I've been trying tons of different music, but I'd love to get some opinions from some seasoned HE-400 owners :)

 

Thanks!

post #15629 of 18107


For some bass  :basshead: 



 

post #15630 of 18107

One more thing, I've noticed some slight buzzing / distortion in the right ear for some parts of some songs. After investigation I have found it occurs for frequencies between 445 - 465 Hz, being most pronounced in the middle of said range.

 

Is this a common issue? Is this something I can fix by tightening something or would this require a call to Hifiman to see if I can get a warranty replacement?

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