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The are some recent production of the he4 but it's certainly EOL and I think that the units from Justin are about it. I emailed him about a week ago and he said that he could still get them FTM. 

 

There is a bit more sparkle to the he4 on the treble than the he500 which has a somewhat smoother treble presentation. But understand that the he4 treble is not harsh at all. I liked the jergpads with the he4 while others did not. YMMV

 

I would encourage anyone interested in the he4 to give it serious look provided that you are willing to put the proper amp with it. It's simply a wonderful hp and IMO outclasses the he400 across the spectrum and yes, that includes bass. :wink_face:

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No offense, but isn't this the discussion thread for he-400?
post #15378 of 17083
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Sure, but it's not an appreciation thread. Just impressions and discussions. So I think that how the he400 compared to other hp's is relevant. 

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He4 vs 400 is relevant here,imo. Seeing as a lot of members here are somewhat dissapointed with aspects of the 400s presentation. The likes of Matt thujone myself and others here, talking about the he4, is all just us trying to help other members. Were not trashing the 400, its a good hp, but given the correct amp, the 4 is simply better accross the spectrum. Similar sound, without the tizz in the treble that everyone here dislikes. If you're interested in the 4 by all means search the forums, there's now 2 popular threads on it. That is all.
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I'd probably not like the HE-4.  The idea of one-sided drive planars is very interesting though, I hope hifiman does something with that for future cans.

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

I'd probably not like the HE-4.  The idea of one-sided drive planars is very interesting though, I hope hifiman does something with that for future cans.

Oh man I'm anxiously awaiting a new hfm planar series, I bet they have something amazing planned. Now that they have this following, and more money for r&d. Very excited to see if they do an he450
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The are some recent production of the he4 but it's certainly EOL and I think that the units from Justin are about it. I emailed him about a week ago and he said that he could still get them FTM. 

 

There is a bit more sparkle to the he4 on the treble than the he500 which has a somewhat smoother treble presentation. But understand that the he4 treble is not harsh at all. I liked the jergpads with the he4 while others did not. YMMV

 

I would encourage anyone interested in the he4 to give it serious look provided that you are willing to put the proper amp with it. It's simply a wonderful hp and IMO outclasses the he400 across the spectrum and yes, that includes bass. :wink_face:

 

How does the treble on the HE4 compare the the HE400?

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

How does the treble on the HE4 compare the the HE400?

There's a whole thread dedicated to the comparisons.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/692229/he-400-vs-he-500-vs-he-4-comparison

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So i feel personally that i wasted my money on the velour pads.  To me, the phone lost all of its body.  It used that resonance to give it a meatier sound.  The phone was voiced with the pleather and without it the sound is hollow, soundstage stayed the same but dynamics are lacking, less but sharper sibilance.  I definitely liked the less dark background and think some people might confuse that as making it a better headphone.

THEN, i found myself immediately noticing echo when i put the pleathers back on.  Usually when you think of echo you think of a sound getting hollower but that's not it.  vocals seamed almost wobbly (thinking high noise phase ringing). 

probably going to try the jerg mod now as i really am not liking this headphone that much anymore and need to do something as i can't send it back because i gave away the bag.

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Okay guys, so I am still bouncing back and forth between the HE-400's and the HE-500's for my next set of cans and right now the question is what amp is the more recommended for the HE-400's? I know the Emotiva Mini-X A-100 is highly recommended for the HE-500's, is that also the case for the HE-400's? What I have is listed in my sig lists, would I be fine with something I already have if I went with the HE-400's? Help me out here please :)

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I think the HE-400 sounds more hollow with the stock pleather than stock velour.  The velour added more upper mids which it desperately needed.

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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post
 

Okay guys, so I am still bouncing back and forth between the HE-400's and the HE-500's for my next set of cans and right now the question is what amp is the more recommended for the HE-400's? I know the Emotiva Mini-X A-100 is highly recommended for the HE-500's, is that also the case for the HE-400's? What I have is listed in my sig lists, would I be fine with something I already have if I went with the HE-400's? Help me out here please :)

 

The emotiva is not the best amp for the he400. It will amp easily from just about any hp amp including the e17 in your sig. It will respond somewhat to the kind of amp you pair with it. For example, it will sound a little cleaner and tighter with an Asgard 2 and more punchy and dynamic with the lyr. But honestly it doesn't need a spendy amp to sound very good. 

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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

The emotiva is not the best amp for the he400. It will amp easily from just about any hp amp including the e17 in your sig. It will respond somewhat to the kind of amp you pair with it. For example, it will sound a little cleaner and tighter with an Asgard 2 and more punchy and dynamic with the lyr. But honestly it doesn't need a spendy amp to sound very good. 


Wow, if thats truly the case that would make the HE-400's WAY cheaper than the HE-500's. Almost $500 in fact (at MSRP pricing for the HE-500 and the Emotiva Mini-X A-100 that is). Huh, my Sennheiser HD-598's still have to sell, but once they do perhaps Ill just go with the HE-500's...

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Originally Posted by DoctaCosmos View Post

So i feel personally that i wasted my money on the velour pads.  To me, the phone lost all of its body.  It used that resonance to give it a meatier sound.  The phone was voiced with the pleather and without it the sound is hollow, soundstage stayed the same but dynamics are lacking, less but sharper sibilance.  I definitely liked the less dark background and think some people might confuse that as making it a better headphone.
THEN, i found myself immediately noticing echo when i put the pleathers back on.  Usually when you think of echo you think of a sound getting hollower but that's not it.  vocals seamed almost wobbly (thinking high noise phase ringing). 
probably going to try the jerg mod now as i really am not liking this headphone that much anymore and need to do something as i can't send it back because i gave away the bag.

I felt that way in the beginning but the sound changed after roughly 150 hours of burn in. The pleather started sounding muddy. The velours allowed the sound to breathe. Also it sounds better amped.
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The are some recent production of the he4 but it's certainly EOL and I think that the units from Justin are about it. I emailed him about a week ago and he said that he could still get them FTM. 

 

There is a bit more sparkle to the he4 on the treble than the he500 which has a somewhat smoother treble presentation. But understand that the he4 treble is not harsh at all. I liked the jergpads with the he4 while others did not. YMMV

 

I would encourage anyone interested in the he4 to give it serious look provided that you are willing to put the proper amp with it. It's simply a wonderful hp and IMO outclasses the he400 across the spectrum and yes, that includes bass. :wink_face:

I heard that the HE-4 requires alotta juice to sparkle. from what I've read, it sounds a bit picky w/ its dac/amp pairing as well. I am sure if you find the right combo for it though, it would really shine. I believe they are heavier than the he400s though, so if you are already at the edge of your comfort limit, they might not be the best alternative.

 

Edit: corrected lol


Edited by money4me247 - 12/20/13 at 5:18pm
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