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Originally Posted by DangerToast View Post
 

LOL I've been asking myself the same thing. The fact that the HE-400 sounds so good makes me wonder if I'll be even happier if I splurge on something higher end. So I'm just trying to get a sense of how fellow HE-400 fans have reacted to more expensive orthos.

 

After reading this thread (http://www.head-fi.org/t/692229/he-400-vs-he-500-vs-he-4-comparison) and based on what people have said here, it seems like the HE-4 may have something to offer. Anyone have thoughts about owning the HE-4 in addition to the HE-400? Have any of you HE-400 fans bought an LCD-2 or compared the HE-400 to an Audeze?

If you are within your return period for the HE400, I personally think it would be more prudent to return them & getting the HE500 rather than x1 HE-400 + x1 HE-4. After all, you only have one set of ears.

 

If you are happy w/ the HE400s, I think you should just stick w/ it. No use wondering how greener the grass is on the other side when it takes double the price to jump over there if you are content with what you have now lol. It becomes a vicious cycle as well, because the higher-end your headphones, the more you feel obligated to spend on your amp/dac to get the best sound outta em.

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If you are within your return period for the HE400, I personally think it would be more prudent to return them & getting the HE500 rather than x1 HE-400 + x1 HE-4. After all, you only have one set of ears.

 

If you are happy w/ the HE400s, I think you should just stick w/ it. No use wondering how greener the grass is on the other side when it takes double the price to jump over there if you are content with what you have now lol. It becomes a vicious cycle as well, because the higher-end your headphones, the more you feel obligated to spend on your amp/dac to get the best sound outta em.

Quote for truth! Don't look inside door #2.

But if you can return the HE400, the HE4 offers a flat response with all the offerings of a planar magnetic (vs dynamic). Going HE4 or HE500 might be a different story. The way I see it, the HE4 is only a good deal if A) you already have an amp that can power them or B) you're looking for a better amp or amp/dac that can power them along with a new HP. The HE500 is straight plug and play if you have 1.5W of power at 32ohms to play with. Still quite a bit of power but more in the normal realm. The HE4 would mean at least 4W at 32Ohm and economically, you could bet an Emotiva Mini-X at $169 (plus shipping?) and the HP at $450.

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Originally Posted by DangerToast View Post

 

After reading this thread (http://www.head-fi.org/t/692229/he-400-vs-he-500-vs-he-4-comparison) and based on what people have said here, it seems like the HE-4 may have something to offer. Anyone have thoughts about owning the HE-4 in addition to the HE-400? Have any of you HE-400 fans bought an LCD-2 or compared the HE-400 to an Audeze?

 

If you are happy with the HE400, keep them for a while longer. Supposedly Hifiman have some new models coming next year with significantly better sound. Wait to see those first.

 

I found the LCD2 is pretty close sounding to the HE400 (with some EQ), yes the LCD2 is better but it also costs a lot more. I couldn't justify it since I already had the HE400 and was pretty happy with it.

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I agree with everyone on this! I'm very happy with my he-400...it's an awesome headphone with superb detail! Let's all bask in the glory of the he-400! smily_headphones1.gif
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Even though Fang Bian says the he400 isn't his cup if tea, you gotta give him cred for allowing people to experience planar m agnetics at a relatively low cost. Most decent amp/dacs will drive the he400 without an issue.
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I agree with everyone on this! I'm very happy with my he-400...it's an awesome headphone with superb detail! Let's all bask in the glory of the he-400! smily_headphones1.gif
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If you are happy with the HE400, keep them for a while longer. Supposedly Hifiman have some new models coming next year with significantly better sound. Wait to see those first.

The new model will probably be a flagship model from what I've read. They came out w/ some new tech to reduce the weight of planar mag by 50%. so think 300g HE-6.

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I've had these for about a year now and I fall deeper in love with them each time I listen. I love them so much that I'm wondering if upgrading to even better orthos will make a big difference. For those of you who have compared the HE-400s to more expensive offerings from Hifiman or Audeze, what did you think?

 

Have any of you purchased higher end orthos after living with the HE-400s for a while?

 

I am hesitant to upgrade because I hear more expensive orthos have less impact, and what I love most about the HE-400s is that "wow" factor. Thoughts?

 

I got the LCD-X a couple of months back. It's utterly brilliant and has great bass impact and definition, though lesser than the LCD3. I have had the HE-400 for over a year now and mainly use it for EDM and movies now.

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The HE4 is neutral. Only downside really is the power they need. If you can supply at least 4w into 32ohms you should be good. It's easier to justify $600 on a HP and amp, which would be the HE4 and an Emotiva mini-x.

 

Are the HE4 still being produced by HIFIMan? or are they EOL products which are being sold off? Also how does the HE4 compare to the HE500 for the treble? HE4 + emotiva minix for the same price as a HE500 does look interesting.

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Thread Starter 

The are some recent production of the he4 but it's certainly EOL and I think that the units from Justin are about it. I emailed him about a week ago and he said that he could still get them FTM. 

 

There is a bit more sparkle to the he4 on the treble than the he500 which has a somewhat smoother treble presentation. But understand that the he4 treble is not harsh at all. I liked the jergpads with the he4 while others did not. YMMV

 

I would encourage anyone interested in the he4 to give it serious look provided that you are willing to put the proper amp with it. It's simply a wonderful hp and IMO outclasses the he400 across the spectrum and yes, that includes bass. :wink_face:

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No offense, but isn't this the discussion thread for he-400?
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Thread Starter 

Sure, but it's not an appreciation thread. Just impressions and discussions. So I think that how the he400 compared to other hp's is relevant. 

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He4 vs 400 is relevant here,imo. Seeing as a lot of members here are somewhat dissapointed with aspects of the 400s presentation. The likes of Matt thujone myself and others here, talking about the he4, is all just us trying to help other members. Were not trashing the 400, its a good hp, but given the correct amp, the 4 is simply better accross the spectrum. Similar sound, without the tizz in the treble that everyone here dislikes. If you're interested in the 4 by all means search the forums, there's now 2 popular threads on it. That is all.
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I'd probably not like the HE-4.  The idea of one-sided drive planars is very interesting though, I hope hifiman does something with that for future cans.

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I'd probably not like the HE-4.  The idea of one-sided drive planars is very interesting though, I hope hifiman does something with that for future cans.

Oh man I'm anxiously awaiting a new hfm planar series, I bet they have something amazing planned. Now that they have this following, and more money for r&d. Very excited to see if they do an he450
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

The are some recent production of the he4 but it's certainly EOL and I think that the units from Justin are about it. I emailed him about a week ago and he said that he could still get them FTM. 

 

There is a bit more sparkle to the he4 on the treble than the he500 which has a somewhat smoother treble presentation. But understand that the he4 treble is not harsh at all. I liked the jergpads with the he4 while others did not. YMMV

 

I would encourage anyone interested in the he4 to give it serious look provided that you are willing to put the proper amp with it. It's simply a wonderful hp and IMO outclasses the he400 across the spectrum and yes, that includes bass. :wink_face:

 

How does the treble on the HE4 compare the the HE400?

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