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post #15241 of 18107

Oh that might've been it.  I remember seeing another set of measurements.

post #15242 of 18107

I tried EQ'ing the area around 800-1200hz and it did make it sound a bit smoother, after using it for a bit I decided it was better to just leave that part alone as if you have modded pads it is not much of a problem and to me sounds alright. With the stock pads though it is quite bad, especially stock pleathers with spacers.. The real nasties with the HE400 are at ~7500khz and ~12500khz, these are the bits that cause actual ear pain for me and make the HE400 pretty much unlistenable unless they are EQ.

post #15243 of 18107
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

hey guys,

 

sometimes I periodically experience a brief (like 1sec) distortion... doesn't seem to be a problem w/ my source file. what do you think it is? could it be my amp? lol


Describe the sound of the distortion. Is it like static?

 

Also, see if you can get the issue to replicate consistently. Do you detect it with the same song / album?

 

When you hear "static" through the HE-400s, I've noticed that it is typically either a loose connection in my left cup, or replication of a clipped wave in a bad recording (excessive dynamic compression). Or in other words, the HE-400 are not distorting - they are playing back the distortion!

post #15244 of 18107

Hello

 

I just got my HE-400 some days ago, burning them in. Got them new from headamp with velour pads, switched directly to them.

 

I understand that the priority is on Jerg Pads > Velour > Stock Pleather

 

I'm using a FiiO E18 DAC/AMP (my first DAC and AMP ever) connected to my Laptop, playing Flacs from my external WD HD. I'm very pleased with this headphone!

 

This Thread got 15k posts, so just asking for a quick "summary" of good things to know about this HP. Any special recommendations besides the Jerg Pads?

 

Thanks :)

post #15245 of 18107
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

It seems only the HE500 driver reacted to the foam spacer measurably. 

 

Although if you really A/B the HE400 measurements with/without the spacer, you can pick up subtle changes still. The spacer pushes up 1kHz slightly, pushes down 2kHz slightly, and seems to have a more significant shelf around the upper treble (though that is debatable as upper treble measurements tend to be unreliable). The mids/upper mids difference, though subtle in terms of amplitude, would still have an impact because they are fairly broad.


I wanted to continue using the spacers with my modded pads, because I think they served an important function. For one thing, they move my ears away from the drivers, for another, they make it a little easier to install / remove the pads.

 

I would probably cut most of the material out to try to preserve the damping gains as much as possible, but retain enough material to allow a lot of pass-through.

 

What do you think about this? There is no going back!

post #15246 of 18107
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Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

Hello

 

I just got my HE-400 some days ago, burning them in. Got them new from headamp with velour pads, switched directly to them.

 

I understand that the priority is on Jerg Pads > Velour > Stock Pleather

 

I'm using a FiiO E18 DAC/AMP (my first DAC and AMP ever) connected to my Laptop, playing Flacs from my external WD HD. I'm very pleased with this headphone!

 

This Thread got 15k posts, so just asking for a quick "summary" of good things to know about this HP. Any special recommendations besides the Jerg Pads?

 

Thanks :)

 

Take a look at Nicholar's EQ files. They're littered around this thread. So with the jergpad and some treble EQ you're golden.

post #15247 of 18107
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Originally Posted by Fraguh View Post
 

So I've got HE-400s and I want to listen to FLAC music but also have virtual surround for PC gaming. If I get something like the Xonar DG, then hook it up to an o2 amp, is the sound card going to make it useless to have FLAC files? If I understand the product description correctly, it says the max output is 96Khz. So that means that even if I have FLAC I'm going to hear the music at a lower quality, compared to coming straight from USB to DAC? What is the difference between the 196Khz on the Essence compared to the 96Khz on the Xonar DG? I was hoping to listen to nothing less than 320kbps, so is that completely separate from the 96Khz/196Khz?

 

Also, I was considering skipping the sound card and going USB -> DAC/AMP and using razer virtual surround but I wasn't sure how that would match up against Dolby. If anyone else has experience with this type of thing and HE-400s let me know. 


Most FLAC is encoded at 44.1KHz (which is standard for CDs). Regardless of how high your DAC goes, 44.1KHz music gets played back at 44.1KHz. Unless you use oversampling, anyway. The sampling rate limit of the DAC just determines the highest resolution material you can play. Depending on what kind of music you like, 192KHz material might be very rare, so the ability to play it isn't necessarily a big deal. Any DAC can play 44.1Khz material, as it's the standard. MP3's are 44.1KHz as well, but they have a lower bitrate than FLAC (which as someone already mentioned is usually somewhere in the 700-1,200 kbps range, depending on the complexity of the music). 

post #15248 of 18107
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post
 

Describe the sound of the distortion. Is it like static?

 

Also, see if you can get the issue to replicate consistently. Do you detect it with the same song / album?

 

When you hear "static" through the HE-400s, I've noticed that it is typically either a loose connection in my left cup, or replication of a clipped wave in a bad recording (excessive dynamic compression). Or in other words, the HE-400 are not distorting - they are playing back the distortion!

hey thanks for the advice. the distortion was like clipping, did not always replicate within a specific track. I figured out the problem, it was my audio drivers. after i updated em, the issue has resolved. :)

 

funny how i never heard the distortion before though. the HE-400 really plays things back at a high resolution and super clearly.

post #15249 of 18107

I currently have an ASUS Xonar DG for gaming. I was looking into getting a DAC/AMP combo. I mostly listen to pop and hip-hop music.

 

A Schiit Magni/Modi with cables comes to about $217.52 shipped.

Pros: Cheap, USA warranty (faster RMA process)

Cons: Lack of features

 

An Audio-gd NFB-15.32 with cables comes to about $257.50 shipped + optical cable.

Pros: Features

Cons: China warranty (long/expensive RMA process)

 

So the question I have is how is the build quality of the NFB 15.32? I used to have Sunrise IEMs (Vietnam) and that process took like a month to get a replacement. I rather not go through that again. Also I saw TCXO upgrade and was wondering what that was about.

Finally... would I still be able to use Xonar DG Dolby Headphone with either of these combos and how would I hook it up to do that?

post #15250 of 18107

I'm selling my HE-400s -- the newest iteration with the white drivers. bought them August 2013. I'll also include the velour earpads for free. PM me if interested with an offer

post #15251 of 18107

Weren't you selling them a couple months ago.

post #15252 of 18107
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Weren't you selling them a couple months ago.

no?

post #15253 of 18107
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

I'm selling my HE-400s -- the newest iteration with the white drivers. bought them August 2013. I'll also include the velour earpads for free. PM me if interested with an offer

why are you selling em?

post #15254 of 18107
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

why are you selling em?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/604583/hifiman-he-400-impressions-and-discussion-thread/15105#post_10055149

post #15255 of 18107
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

why turn of volume leveling?


Volume leveling is done by digital attenuation. Digital attenuation = poor audio quality non-optimal audio

*edit: not optimal audio quality, although some people will not be able to hear depending on ears and gear.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 12/16/13 at 3:16pm
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