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http://www.head-fi.org/t/646812/hifiman-he500-he400-jergpad-mod-v2-5-modulor-orders-updated-november

 

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"More importantly, it improves the sound quality by breaking the seal of the pleather material, giving a significantly more open and “out of the head” sound, WITHOUT losing the natural tonal balance of the pleathers/jergpads. Dynamics are improved dramatically also."

 

That's what said in regards to the strip of velour on the outside of the pleathers. So the point isn't that it's velour, the point is that the tiny sliver creates enough space to increase the dynamics? I suppose I can buy into that. But probably not worth it not feeling good on my head. I can hardly hear a difference between stock velour and stock pleather, so I doubt any mods would even be detectable for me.

 

I'm more interested in hearing my custom pads, when I get 'em :]

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After several months with the HE-400, I've decided to move on from them. They should be appearing in the For Sale section in the next week or so. They are excellent cans, but I'm just not a fan of the signature and the absolutely wild highs. I love my cans bright and exciting, but they need to have some sort of control which the HE-400 has none. Haven't decided to move onto an HE-500 or HD 700 yet.

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I will say I am 100% incapable of doing the jergpad mod. If it involves cutting material, I will botch it. I would probably have someone else do the mod for me, but I probably wouldn't cut out the velour and put it on the pleathers. That has no effect other than "comfort" right? Still, gonna use these velours for a week to give them an honest test.

All I did was cut holes on the inside of the pleathers, and it made a noticeable difference in the sound. I haven't tried to sew on the velours. I tried the backvent mod, but it seemed flimsy and I didn't notice much sonic difference. 

As far as washing the velours, I literally threw them in with my laundry. Washer and and dryer. They got a lot of lint stuck to them, but they are much softer now :D

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mmm... not really. you're just an idiot getting seriously ripped off.

 

They can probably make a batch of a few hundred earpads in china for a few bucks and wait for the few idiotic audiophile suckers that are willing to throw down a Benjamin for 2 pieces of foam & 2 scraps of leather - aka "the luxury of the item" - and laugh all the way to the bank after selling one, because I would say at least 95% of that price is pure profit.

 

Of course, if you make enough money that you can drop $100 and be too lazy to pick it up without worrying... then ya, I guess it doesn't matter.... I think the willingness for many audiophile consumers to throw tons of money at their hobby makes it really easy for companies to mark-up their prices higher & higher, because they actually end up only need a few customers to make a profit since most of the retail price is purely mark-up.



This is why when a company comes along and offers products at a MUCH lower price with the same if not better performance, it's nice to be able to support that company. Companies like Schiit, Audio-GD, HifiMan and the likes come to mind. Then you've got the absurd like Abyss headphones, LOL $1,000 cable, REALLY? Better be made of unicorn guts and shielding of a dragon's back.

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This is why when a company comes along and offers products at a MUCH lower price with the same if not better performance, it's nice to be able to support that company. Companies like Schiit, Audio-GD, and the likes come to mind.

+1  and Jason at Schiit and Qinghua (Kingwa) at Audio GD are also awesome people to deal with, both answer E-mails personally and quickly.                                                                                                                                                                                

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I'll add Mr. Speakers to that group, with tremendous service and incredible value for the dollar. 

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This subject really ought to be a thread of it's own. (Maybe there already is) Best value, service, and no BS approach to the audiophile world thread. Although I doubt Head-Fi would be towards it since I take they have advertisements from other companies that may not make that list.

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I'll add Mr. Speakers to that group, with tremendous service and incredible value for the dollar.

Absolutely, Dan is the man, great guy.

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This subject really ought to be a thread of it's own. (Maybe there already is) Best value, service, and no BS approach to the audiophile world thread. Although I doubt Head-Fi would be towards it since I take they have advertisements from other companies that may not make that list.

Kingwa actually talked me out of upgrading one time, not many business people that would not just take your money.

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Kingwa actually talked me out of upgrading one time, not many business people that would not just take your money.

That's really cool. 

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This is why when a company comes along and offers products at a MUCH lower price with the same if not better performance, it's nice to be able to support that company. Companies like Schiit, Audio-GD, HifiMan and the likes come to mind. Then you've got the absurd like Abyss headphones, LOL $1,000 cable, REALLY? Better be made of unicorn guts and shielding of a dragon's back.

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Yes I agree, I try to give these companies as much business as possible while avoiding the scummy ones. Its a shame that the average consumer does not even know about these brands because usually they would just get whichever is marketed best, for example Beats which are rubbish but have good marketing, which appeals to people of low intelligence levels lol.


Edited by nicholars - 12/7/13 at 3:29am
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Yes I agree, I try to give these companies as much business as possible while avoiding the scummy ones. Its a shame that the average consumer does not even know about these brands because usually they would just get whichever is marketed best, for example Beats which are rubbish but have good marketing, which appeals to people of low intelligence levels lol.

 

AGD is actually fairly popular on the forums. Currawong recently reviewed a unit favorably.

 

Dan can barely keep up and I cannot wish him more success, met him in person and he's good people with me. Jason rules, forever a Schiit fan.

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AGD is actually fairly popular on the forums. Currawong recently reviewed a unit favorably.

 

Dan can barely keep up and I cannot wish him more success, met him in person and he's good people with me. Jason rules, forever a Schiit fan.

 

What I meant is the sort of person that walks into the local shop and proceeds to buy Bose or Beats as they have seen adverts on the TV / celebrity endorsement, Marketing + low IQ target audience = big sales. haha.

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So I've downgraded my setup, sold my HE-6, sold my Audio GD DI and Audio GD ES9018 DAC and 110wpc Yamaha speaker amp...

 

I purchased the HE-400 based on the black friday sale, and I'm looking to pair it with a new dac and amp. I'm looking at the Schiit Modi/Vali combo and the Aune T1

 

The things I loved about the HE-6 combo above was sound stage, instrument separation, and it was pretty fun, the things I hated, sibilance, sibilance, and harsh treble (to my ears, but I'm sensitive to sibilance), I loved how deep the bass was and the speed, but I wanted more impact (I might be a bit of a bass head). I'm looking for a tube setup for a change from solid state everything.

 

Schiit is a very well known company, and many have said great things about the Modi and Vali, however, some people have said they lean towards analytically sounding, and the amp may not have enough power to drive the HE-400 (someone mentioned it on the Vali thread), and no USB or RCA cables.

 

The Aune T1 seems to have very good reviews, but Aune at least to me is an unknown company, but even with an amperex 7308 Gold Pin tube upgrade it's the same price as the Modi/Vali combo shipped to me. It seems to have more power in the headphone camp, it's an AIO unit, and it comes with a USB cable at least...

 

Does anyone have any opinions to share?

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