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also EQ is impure rabble rabble rabble heathen and such

 

If using EQ is impure then the people who master the audio in recording studios are absolute filthy heathens.

post #14717 of 17923
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If using EQ is impure then the people who master the audio in recording studios are absolute filthy heathens.

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post #14718 of 17923
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Thanks, as I keep saying these headphones are very good but flawed out of the box, fix these flaws and they are as close to perfect as you are going to get unless you want to remortgage your house for some high end's and an amplifier to run them. I have not tried EVERY pair of headphones under £500 but I have owned or demo every pair which are considered to be good at this price (except the mad dogs and alpha dogs). HE400 were probably the biggest disappointment for me out of the box but with mod / EQ they are my favourite headphones, actually the biggest disappointment were the Denon D600.... What a massive step backwards from the Dxxxx!

I don't think they're flawed at all out of the box. :]

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I should end all my posts with IMO. But technically they are sort of flawed if you are looking for an even frequency response. If you like the sound out of the box then they are not flawed for you so there is no need to do anything to them, the pad mods will make them sound better though.

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I should end all my posts with IMO. But technically they are sort of flawed if you are looking for an even frequency response.

Why would you need to end your post with that? What did I say to imply that you weren't stating an opinion? I just offered a different one, mate.

post #14721 of 17923
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Why would you need to end your post with that? What did I say to imply that you weren't stating an opinion? I just offered a different one, mate

 

Yep no prob, if they sound perfect to you already then you do not need to do anything to them, although I recommend the modded pads... but for anyone that likes them but finds the treble a problem, it is possible to fix that.

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Eh, I'm not really interested in modded pads, as it happens. I even prefer the pleathers to the velours in just about every way, so I'm already something of an anomaly around these parts. I detect no difference most of the time. My ear pallet is probably not as trained, but I also don't desire it to be!

 

But I don't frown on pad modding or anything like that. I probably avoid it because I'm hopeless when it comes to doing anything with my hands.

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Eh, I'm not really interested in modded pads, as it happens. I even prefer the pleathers to the velours in just about every way, so I'm already something of an anomaly around these parts. I detect no difference most of the time. My ear pallet is probably not as trained, but I also don't desire it to be!

 

But I don't frown on pad modding or anything like that. I probably avoid it because I'm hopeless when it comes to doing anything with my hands.

 

lol... I like the pleathers as well more than the velours.... Try it... Just take the pads off, turn them inside out and cut some holes, then stick the pads to the frame with double sided tape. Does make them sound quite a lot better, HIFIMAN would probably have done it as well but it would make them more difficult to manufacture. Some headphones have those mods already, some Sennheiser and the Audeze have it already I think. It definately makes them sound better with the pleathers, I didn't bother with the vent part of the mods because I tried it and it made the bass worse.

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lol... I like the pleathers as well more than the velours.... Try it... Just take the pads off, turn them inside out and cut some holes, then stick the pads to the frame with double sided tape. Does make them sound quite a lot better, HIFIMAN would probably have done it as well but it would make them more difficult to manufacture. Some headphones have those mods already, some Sennheiser and the Audeze have it already I think. It definately makes them sound better with the pleathers, I didn't bother with the vent part of the mods because I tried it and it made the bass worse.

Believe me when I tell you that if I took any kind of cutting tool to my pads they would be lost forever. I am amazing at painting these things and not harming them when I pull them apart ... but to cut is beyond me. I even painted a buddy's HE-400 for him this past weekend. :]

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:( Still hope it will take away a noticeable bit no matter how slight. Will know tomorrow.

 

If you search this thread I made some nice guides on how to fix the HE400 treble sibilance / tizz without losing much detail, also look at Jerg / modulor's guides for pad mods.... Let me know how the foam goes though I am interested, problem with that is that although it might help a bit it will also lower the clarity of everything else.

 

Oh, I've seen them guides. Must say that -at the moment- I want a headphone to sound as right as possible out of the box. EQ is cool for me when a headphone responds really well to 1 or 2 dB but I kind of strive for the headphone's house sound as much as possible and you know what happens when it ain't right: [FS] HE-400 ^^ It keeps the journey interesting.

 

I'll get back to you about the foams.

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Oh, I've seen them guides. Must say that -at the moment- I want a headphone to sound as right as possible out of the box. EQ is cool for me when a headphone responds really well to 1 or 2 dB but I kind of strive for the headphone's house sound as much as possible and you know what happens when it ain't right: [FS] HE-400 ^^ It keeps the journey expensive.

 

I'll get back to you about the foams.

 

Fixed for you :)

post #14727 of 17923
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I felt real relief when I demoed the LCD-2, LCD-3, etc etc. Real relief because I actually preferred the sound signature of the HE-400. Relief stemming from somewhere in the wallet region. Endgame is a good word for it. I'm sure one day I'll buy more expensive headphones, but it will be more out of interest than a desire to find "my" headphones, and it will surely come when money is a bit easier to come by for me.

 

also EQ is impure rabble rabble rabble heathen and such

 

The way I see it is, if i'm currently enjoying my music experience and don't feel like I need any other improvements to the sound, then there's no need to seek improvement. I'm sure other flagships such as the LCD3 and HE-6 would sound better, but currently I feel no desire for their improvements. That says a lot of the HE-400.

 

But hey this is head-fi so I'm not closing any doors.

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The way I see it is, if i'm currently enjoying my music experience and don't feel like I need any other improvements to the sound, then there's no need to seek improvement. I'm sure other flagships such as the LCD3 and HE-6 would sound better, but currently I feel no desire for their improvements. That says a lot of the HE-400.

 

But hey this is head-fi so I can't close any doors.

Fixed that for you.

post #14729 of 17923
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Fixed that for you.

 

This site is like a black hole, it sucks you in for all eternity.

post #14730 of 17923

:D

 

I really didn't expect it and like to believe I have it under control but no matter what, this spending and raising the bar especially just-creeps-up on you. Straight wallet murder!

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