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post #14521 of 18079
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

Wrong.

 

hahahah.. well.. i guess pink noise can be rather stimulating once you get it nicely balanced :rolleyes::p

post #14522 of 18079
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

Mmm well I am just giving my opinion, personally I was disappointed when I first got them, first thing I did was graphic EQ, an improvement but still somewhat sibilant and tiring on the ears after not very long, also only really good with some genres. Next up I did the pad mods, definitely an improvement to the overall sound although still a bit harsh for me. Eventually I got round to measuring them with sinegen and doing a proper EQ with electriQ - this lead to a few days of OCTD ...

So you used Sinegen to input frequencies. Did you actually measure response with a microphone, or did you just use your ears / other frequency response measurements as a guide? I am just curious. I downloaded a few spectrum analyzer tools for Android and played around trying to measure response / take screenshots. But so far, the scale used by the apps etc. are not ideal (I want to see logarithmic response +- 10 dB to look for peaks).

 

Obviously, measuring headphone response requires some even more dedicated equipment.

post #14523 of 18079

No I did not use a microphone, although using a microphone etc. would be technically more accurate, doing it by ear works well because it is customised to your own hearing. Its not too difficult, takes a bit of experimenting but sinegen lets you record all frequencies and the relative volumes and then compare them, then you plot this into electriq, works very well with the HE400. I find that frequency sweeps are much more useful than pink noise for testing.

 

I made a short guide here when I did it but not even one person replied! Cheek of it!

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/687845/how-to-equalise-your-headphones-using-electriq-parametric-equaliser


Edited by nicholars - 11/24/13 at 10:57am
post #14524 of 18079
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

No I did not use a microphone, although using a microphone etc. would be technically more accurate, doing it by ear works well because it is customised to your own hearing. Its not too difficult, takes a bit of experimenting but sinegen lets you record all frequencies and the relative volumes and then compare them, then you plot this into electriq, works very well with the HE400. I find that frequency sweeps are much more useful than pink noise for testing.

 

I made a short guide here when I did it but not even one person replied! Cheek of it!

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/687845/how-to-equalise-your-headphones-using-electriq-parametric-equaliser

I at least gave you a thumbs up!!! Haha

post #14525 of 18079

lol thx :) You do not really have to do it as accurately as I did in that tutorial, I got a bit carried away with it lol, but definately using electriQ is a lot better than using a graphic EQ because of the frequency response of the HE400.... Some headphones you can just get away with graphic EQ or no EQ at all.

post #14526 of 18079

Looks like clearly the most methodical way to EQ. I might try, but alas, I never really get the feeling that I'm in the mood to listen to a bunch of test tones. I just accept that my EQ is good enough. If I wanted to make it perfect to my ears, I'd be changing it for almost every album. 

post #14527 of 18079

At this point, I probably won't ever get to trying it out, as I am shipping out my HE-400's tomorrow...

post #14528 of 18079
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

Looks like clearly the most methodical way to EQ. I might try, but alas, I never really get the feeling that I'm in the mood to listen to a bunch of test tones. I just accept that my EQ is good enough. If I wanted to make it perfect to my ears, I'd be changing it for almost every album. 

 

That's what I did initially, then I realised this was driving me slightly bonkers and I was not enjoying the music because I was tweaking it all the time... so I set up 3 presets, a smooth one with rolled off treble, one with brighter treble and one in the middle. Once you have the basic shape correct for your ears / headphones and a few presets you can leave it alone.

 

This is pretty much what I use now... I do not bother trying to remove the midrange glare because it sounds alright anyway with the pad mods.

 

post #14529 of 18079

I simplified mine a lot after getting the Emotiva. I just got a new DAC as well (LOL, I got a little carried away), so I probably need a few more tweaks. The Concero is leaner in the bass than my old DAC, so I'm thinking about bumping up the bass a bit, similar to how you have it. I'm trying to get used to the new presentation first though. Maybe my old DAC was too bloated. IDK. 

 

post #14530 of 18079
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

No I did not use a microphone, although using a microphone etc. would be technically more accurate, doing it by ear works well because it is customised to your own hearing. Its not too difficult, takes a bit of experimenting but sinegen lets you record all frequencies and the relative volumes and then compare them, then you plot this into electriq, works very well with the HE400. I find that frequency sweeps are much more useful than pink noise for testing.

I made a short guide here when I did it but not even one person replied! Cheek of it!

http://www.head-fi.org/t/687845/how-to-equalise-your-headphones-using-electriq-parametric-equaliser
Using a mic won't necessarily be more accurate, as mics have FR curves inherent to them too.
post #14531 of 18079
Hi everyone, loving the HE-400's paired with an O2/ODAC and more recently a Woo WA6. Since, I will be keeping these for a while, I want to replace the side screws that attach the cups to the headband (the previous owner stripped them). Does anyone know the screw size or where I can source them? I actually need a replacement for the top screw hardware too.
post #14532 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Manoa1 View Post

Hi everyone, loving the HE-400's paired with an O2/ODAC and more recently a Woo WA6. Since, I will be keeping these for a while, I want to replace the side screws that attach the cups to the headband (the previous owner stripped them). Does anyone know the screw size or where I can source them? I actually need a replacement for the top screw hardware too.

I may be wrong here (since I've never removed those screws) but aren't they screwed into the plastic cup? If so, it would be more likely that your cup is stripped than the screw (unless you're just talking about the head of the screw).

post #14533 of 18079
Thanks for the clarification, yes it is the head of the screw that is stripped. The cup is holding properly but it just bothers me a little everytime I see it.
post #14534 of 18079

So what would you guys say would be better for the money then? A $300 HE-400 a mid $300 HD600, or a potentially slightly less than $399 K712? I know these kinds of things are extremely subjective. 

 

I also wear them for extended periods of time, I'm seeing more and more about how heavy the HE-400 is. hm.....

post #14535 of 18079
I plan on getting the HE-400 when they go on sale for $299 on Black Friday. I've heard so many people saying they have a bad treble spike and are sibilant. Many people say they need to be EQ'd to sound really good.

I'm a total noob. What do I need to get them sounding their best? Computer programs, EQ's, saved preset EQ files, etc? Can you help me with a link or tutorial on how to do it? Your saved presets? I really want to make them sound amazing.
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