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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

What are the best comfort mods for the HE400? The beyer headband strap? I think I will get one because the headband on the HE400 is a bit hard and with the weight it is not very comfortable.

I thought GREQ had a really cool headstrap mod.

post #14282 of 17711
Thread Starter 

I was referring to the jergpads by modular with the velour top. If anything the treble is better. Are we on the same page here? 

post #14283 of 17711
Hi,

Which pairing is better with he400? Hifiman ef5 or modded matrix m-stage?

Could you please recommend?
post #14284 of 17711

any tips on how to keep the headphone cable from unscrewing itself?

post #14285 of 17711

Screw it tight.  I've had my HE-400 for near two years now and never had the cables come undone once.

post #14286 of 17711
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

Screw it tight.  I've had my HE-400 for near two years now and never had the cables come undone once.

 

SCREW TIGHT MOTHER sounds like an MC :D 


Edited by nicholars - 11/9/13 at 9:49am
post #14287 of 17711
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Originally Posted by phrozenspite View Post
 

any tips on how to keep the headphone cable from unscrewing itself?

Twist the connectors in the opposite direction before screwing them on so they are left with a slight tension keeping them "locked".

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Thread Starter 

^^this

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Did a lot of changes over the last few weeks in EQ (that drove me mad for a while) but I seem to have hit on a setup that is working really well. These are the things I have done differently recently...

 

1).
For a long time I used Electri-q that I was quite happy with but then slowly started not to like anymore. I Moved from using Electri-q to using the equalizer built into AIMP3. This also does parametric eq but it uses sliders to produce the curve. I am now using a curve that is similar to my previous curve I used in Electri-q but it has more flat tops rather than rounded tops that has a more natural sound.

 

2).
I got sloppy somewhere along the way and stopped using the preamp volume in the eq to match any boost in dB because I couldn't immediately tell any difference and I was changing the eq so often, none the less its safer to engage the preamp. It is possible this was causing some distortion that was hard to detect because of the volume level change. The consequence of now using the preamp is that I had to increase the physical volume on the amp to get the same volume as before (went from 11 o'clock to 12 on the dial). I have always felt that the HE400 sounded better at higher volumes but this was not possible because it made my ears hurt after a few hours. It could be that the amp is now in more of a sweet spot with the volume set higher.

 

3).
I set AIMP3 to use 24bit/192kHz and set the DAC driver (Tenor TE8802) to also use this. I tried this due to this video I had seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYjHKv2_OqQ). In another video in those seminars, one of the experts says that 16bit/44kHz source that is upscaled to 24bit/192kHz does sound better. I moved to using WASAPI Exclusive mode instead of just normal WASAPI so that AIMP3 allowed me to use 24bit/192kHz.

 

The result of all the above is that I now have a more natural sound that sounds very balanced and 95% of the time I detect no tizz. The mids don't sound recessed at all and the vocals are very clear and crisp. The mids and the vocals sound just right now.

 

The biggest difference is made by 1) but I have a feeling 2) and 3) has something to do with it also but this is harder to detect. It took a few days of listening to songs that I was very familiar with to confirm my initial impressions.

 

I had decided to move to a more expensive setup (one of HE500/LCD3/HD800 and new amp/dac) but now I will stick with the HE400/NFB15. It is sounding the best I have ever heard it.

post #14290 of 17711
I totally agree about the detail! Extremely detailed headphone! The bass is very well defined, mid range is superb, and treble is sparkling! It's the end of the road. I still have my Sennheiser hd650 with after market cable, but hifiman he-400 is on the top of the heap! smily_headphones1.gif
post #14291 of 17711

Hi there. 

 

Pretty simple question: where can I buy this pair of headphones in Europe? Gotta be from a website that ships to Denmark - the cheaper the better obviously :) 

post #14292 of 17711
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Originally Posted by portnoy83 View Post

Hi,

Which pairing is better with he400? Hifiman ef5 or modded matrix m-stage?

Could you please recommend?

 

 EF5 all the way. You can mod the EF5 to be phenomenal with and OP/ tube swap (not really a mod), but it sounds great out of the box.
post #14293 of 17711
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

Did a lot of changes over the last few weeks in EQ (that drove me mad for a while) but I seem to have hit on a setup that is working really well. These are the things I have done differently recently...

 

1).
For a long time I used Electri-q that I was quite happy with but then slowly started not to like anymore. I Moved from using Electri-q to using the equalizer built into AIMP3. This also does parametric eq but it uses sliders to produce the curve. I am now using a curve that is similar to my previous curve I used in Electri-q but it has more flat tops rather than rounded tops that has a more natural sound.

 

Personally I found that Electri-Q gives the best results if you get it right because you can lower only the frequencies that you need to. I think that all graphic equalisers do what you are saying... but the one you are using is just showing you it on the interface? In which case you might be better with a 31 band EQ because it gives you more accuracy while still being easier to use than ElectriQ.. The advantage of Parametric is that it allows you much better accuracy by changing the gain, bandwidth and centre of each frequency, seems like you have downgraded by going to a 16 band graphic EQ, but if you are 100% happy with the sound then does not matter, if you want to get better accuracy (which works especially with the HE400 due to the crazy FR)... Maybe give electriQ another shot or try a 31 band graphic EQ. Just get a few presets you are happy with on electriQ then avoid changing it any more, 1 standard EQ, 1 for low quality sources and whatever else, if you keep trying to tweak it for every song it will indeed drive you mad.

 

2).
I got sloppy somewhere along the way and stopped using the preamp volume in the eq to match any boost in dB because I couldn't immediately tell any difference and I was changing the eq so often, none the less its safer to engage the preamp. It is possible this was causing some distortion that was hard to detect because of the volume level change. The consequence of now using the preamp is that I had to increase the physical volume on the amp to get the same volume as before (went from 11 o'clock to 12 on the dial). I have always felt that the HE400 sounded better at higher volumes but this was not possible because it made my ears hurt after a few hours. It could be that the amp is now in more of a sweet spot with the volume set higher.

 

3).
I set AIMP3 to use 24bit/192kHz and set the DAC driver (Tenor TE8802) to also use this. I tried this due to this video I had seen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYjHKv2_OqQ). In another video in those seminars, one of the experts says that 16bit/44kHz source that is upscaled to 24bit/192kHz does sound better. I moved to using WASAPI Exclusive mode instead of just normal WASAPI so that AIMP3 allowed me to use 24bit/192kHz.

 

I think you are probably better leaving your media player at the exact bitrate which the recording is, for example 16/44100 90% of the time, let the DAC do any upscaling, you do not get any advantage from setting high bitrates in software, at best a load of zero's added to the output, at worse it might cause problems with the sound.... Anyway just saying that if you get the urge to improve it more, give electriQ another chance, it should give better results than a 16 band graphic EQ, especially with the HE400.

 

The result of all the above is that I now have a more natural sound that sounds very balanced and 95% of the time I detect no tizz. The mids don't sound recessed at all and the vocals are very clear and crisp. The mids and the vocals sound just right now.

 

The biggest difference is made by 1) but I have a feeling 2) and 3) has something to do with it also but this is harder to detect. It took a few days of listening to songs that I was very familiar with to confirm my initial impressions.

 

I had decided to move to a more expensive setup (one of HE500/LCD3/HD800 and new amp/dac) but now I will stick with the HE400/NFB15. It is sounding the best I have ever heard it.


Edited by nicholars - 11/11/13 at 12:41pm
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I agree that electri-q is more advanced and probably better, that's why I used that before for 1.5 years. The problem is its hard to get the curve I need and the curve in the simple eq sounds more natural to me even when I tried to duplicate it exactly in electri-q. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter which eq as long as it sounds good to me.
 
With regards to the bit rate, I was of that opinion also but watching those videos, there is more to it. You would think that adding 0's to get from 16 bit to 24 bit wouldn't make any difference but it does. Watch that video I linked and it explains it. It could be my dac does that internally anyway (I am not sure) but it could also be that windows using 16 bits has already affected the signal before sending it to the dac. For example, electri-q when it attenuates/boosts a 16 bit source as part of its equalization process, it will reduce the bit rate. This happens because of how math in the binary world occurs, to divide by 2 (for example to reduce the volume), you shift 1 bit along, so you have lost a data bit, you go from 16 data bits to 15 data bits, the 16th bit now becomes a 0 and some of you data is lost. If it has 24 bits that were filled with 0's from a 16 bit source then the actual bit rate will not be reduced because the bits that are lost are the 0 bits that were added and not the actual data bits. So its gone from 24 bits to 23 bits effectively but your original 16 bits are still all there (watch that video about 8 mins in). I am definitely getting clearer crisper vocals now, like I said, I am not 100% sure why, but I am afraid to touch anything because its the best I have ever heard it as is. I think its getting a bit off topic so I will leave it at that.
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Yeh thats why I said that you can set the bitrate on windows audio control to 24bit but leave the media player the same. That is the bits though not the sampling rate in khz - eg. playing 44100khz file at 192000khz in your media player.... With the volume.. If you are bypassing it straight to your DAC with WASAPI exclusive it should not affect that anyway. This is off topic so lets not discuss it any further!


Edited by nicholars - 11/11/13 at 2:38pm
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