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post #14236 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post
 

You're making a mistake!! :p

Maybe so, but it's a wooden back! After doing some of the Dampening mods it should be fine. STill I only listen to EDM and Techno on Campus, and our Capmus is noisy >.> the Isolated D2k should beat the open HE 400 in a noisy area... that and I found I enjyoed the DT 880 a little more with a little EQ for EDM as well. I missed those upper mids 

post #14237 of 18673
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Wow, that's a big move!! Have you heard the dxk before?

post #14238 of 18673
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Wow, that's a big move!! Have you heard the dxk before?

NOPE but I have heard my W1000x with J$money Pads... which apprently sounds simmilar to the DxK

 

I really enjoyed my W1000x for EDM when it was stock. An seeing as I plan to dampen a D2k I'm pretty sure it should sound close enough. That said, assuming I liked my STock w1000x for EDM A modded DxK shouldn't be too far from that, and yes the J$money W1000x had recessed mids in case ur wondering.

 

Either way it looks amazing so for looks alone I'll sink how ever much cash and mods it needs to sound EPIC. BUT IN THE END. IT cannot sound any worse than my Sony XB 700, I liked the XB 700 when I had it but the +20db bass was to much. So if ANYTHING the DxK has to be better than my old XB700 

post #14239 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

NOPE but I have heard my W1000x with J$money Pads... which apprently sounds simmilar to the DxK

 

I really enjoyed my W1000x for EDM when it was stock. An seeing as I plan to dampen a D2k I'm pretty sure it should sound close enough. That said, assuming I liked my STock w1000x for EDM A modded DxK shouldn't be too far from that, and yes the J$money W1000x had recessed mids in case ur wondering.

 

Either way it looks amazing so for looks alone I'll sink how ever much cash and mods it needs to sound EPIC. BUT IN THE END. IT cannot sound any worse than my Sony XB 700, I liked the XB 700 when I had it but the +20db bass was to much. So if ANYTHING the DxK has to be better than my old XB700 

 

Huh? :blink: Those two are not even remotely in the same zip code IMO. I owned the d2k, d5k and d7k. I only borrowed the w1000x last year for a weeks audition, so limited experience there. But based on my observations, they are not really close at all. 

 

With that being said, I think that giving your preference for EDM, you really like the d2k. Markl mods and pads will make that hp sound better. 

post #14240 of 18673
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Huh? :blink: Those two are not even remotely in the same zip code IMO. I owned the d2k, d5k and d7k. I only borrowed the w1000x last year for a weeks audition, so limited experience there. But based on my observations, they are not really close at all.

 

With that being said, I think that giving your preference for EDM, you really like the d2k. Markl mods and pads will make that hp sound better.

With the J$ pads? The pads make a huge difference I bet.

post #14241 of 18673
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I guess they must. I confess I did not hear the w1000x with j$ pads. 

post #14242 of 18673
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

Huh? :blink: Those two are not even remotely in the same zip code IMO. I owned the d2k, d5k and d7k. I only borrowed the w1000x last year for a weeks audition, so limited experience there. But based on my observations, they are not really close at all. 

 

With that being said, I think that giving your preference for EDM, you really like the d2k. Markl mods and pads will make that hp sound better. 

Yea I want to Mod the Drivers, keep the wood stock if possible and slap some Alpha Pads on there. MIGHT upgrade to the MarkL pads later. Hoping Martin will be able to do some kind of driver dampenin while he makes some minor repairs to the cups. My seller wanted to have some things optimzed before he sent it to me.. that and while Martin has  it, I'm getting it Reterminated for 4pin XLR. I'll do a Fully balanced recable in the future

 

ANd yes I'm going to mod that damn thing till it sounds perfect -.- again it looks super yummy so it's gonna be worth what ever money I sink into it. Plus I want to get an RSA F35 in Junary, so I'll need a balanced Closed back to use while I also get my W1000x fully balanced in Junary 

 

and what is my preferace for edm q.q

post #14243 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

:[ welp guys my HE 400 have been Traded for a Cocobolo Wood Back Denon 2k+D7k Cable and 4pin Balanced Termination

 

It was fun to be here :D, a shame I ended up needing a Closed back in the end >.>

It is hard to go back to the Denon house sound after owning planar-magnetics. I knew the minute I put the HE400/500 on my head my taste had changed. I still own the D7k(used to own all three), but it sounds better in the abstract then on my head.

post #14244 of 18673
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^^ I would put myself in the same camp. Once you've heard a good planar magnetic and decide that you like it, you may find that it skews your perception and appreciable for dynamic driver hp's. Fortunately for me, I still find the hd650 to be my comfortable pair of slippers at the end of the day. The comfort and lush signature of the hd650 will hopefully prevent me from ever selling it. 

post #14245 of 18673
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

^^ I would put myself in the same camp. Once you've heard a good planar magnetic and decide that you like it, you may find that it skews your perception and appreciable for dynamic driver hp's. Fortunately for me, I still find the hd650 to be my comfortable pair of slippers at the end of the day. The comfort and lush signature of the hd650 will hopefully prevent me from ever selling it.

+1 the HD 650 is unique, I feel the same way about it. I call it my "old friend". The HD800 is my new "slick friend" that I misjudged:wink_face:

post #14246 of 18673
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

It is hard to go back to the Denon house sound after owning planar-magnetics. I knew the minute I put the HE400/500 on my head my taste had changed. I still own the D7k(used to own all three), but it sounds better in the abstract then on my head.

True enough, but I didn't spend an ENMOURS amount of time with my HE 400. I only liked it for edm, and honestly... I enjoy my DT 880 just as much with a more aggresive EQ as I did my HE 400. ALthough there is ONE Album that isn't the same without the HE 400 [And that would be Core and Bass] I can enjoy a more laid back bass sound.

 

At the end of the day I'll end up with another Balanced HE 400 for my at home useage, as I DO NOT need to be jamming to Core  N bass any were but home!  It's my RAGE music! STuff I BLAST when I'm kinda pissed and feel like playing some TPS or ACtion PVP mmos

 

That said, I spent about a good hour with my Closed Back W1000x and the J$money Pads... which was enough for me to feel I would enjoy a Denon, as the bass was perfectly fine for me on the W1k and J$Pads, granted the Sub Bass was terrible. But as I mentioned before... they look SO GOOD and I REALLY need a closed back for EDM at this point. I may wind up owning a TH 900 or TH 600. OR maybe an Alpha Dog [I hear with enough Juice the bass really comes ALIVE] That said my HM801 does add a bit of umph to the low end, and I'm hoping a RSA F35 will too... [as I plan to get one of those soon as well] 

post #14247 of 18673
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

Been going bananas the last 2 weeks, messing around with electri-q too much trying to make the mids/treble sound more like my speakers. I had reduced the dip in the treble too much and it introduced some tizz and it eventually drilled into my brain. So I gave electri-q the flick, it just allowed for too much variation and I could never find a setting I was happy with over time. I decided to use a simple slider eq as shown below.

 

 

It uses the sliders to make the curve (that is shown above the sliders) and it's sounding a lot more natural than I could get with electri-q. The tizz is gone without killing the treble and the mids are more open and lively probably because of the flat top, in electri-q, I always had more of a round top that made the vocals a little off at times. I have been using it the past 2 days and its sounding very very good. So I am back to loving the HE400 again *hugs them*.

 

If that equaliser does not have auto normalise volume or pre amp setting then you are supposed to keep everything below 0db to avoid any distortion etc. If that slider on the right is pre amp then move it down by as much as your highest point, so that would be -2db if your highest one is +2db.

post #14248 of 18673
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

If that equaliser does not have auto normalise volume or pre amp setting then you are supposed to keep everything below 0db to avoid any distortion etc. If that slider on the right is pre amp then move it down by as much as your highest point, so that would be -2db if your highest one is +2db.

 

Yeah it has a preamp. I understand what you are saying, I don't bother these days, my amp doesn't clip, no distortion. Only if I put the bass up to 10dB it will start to.

post #14249 of 18673
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

 

Yeah it has a preamp. I understand what you are saying, I don't bother these days, my amp doesn't clip, no distortion. Only if I put the bass up to 10dB it will start to.


What you would be clipping is the signal to the amp, not the amp itself. The Amp would merely replicate the clip. Or, in other words, you are sending distortion to your amp.

 

Nicholars is right. You don't have to listen to him (or me), but you should listen carefully for distortion when playing dynamically compressed recordings at moderate volumes. I used to keep my 'global' preamp at 0dB no matter what, but -3dB is cheap insurance and has a low overhead cost on your amp. It does not take much boost for me to detect issues.

post #14250 of 18673

There is no reason not to lower the pre amp.... Except everything will be 2db quieter...

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