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post #14176 of 20217
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

If anyone is considering the he400.or other hps please give consideration to Justin at headamp. His prices are good and his service is excellent. Highly recommended.
Or get a second hand he400.. One of our members (texfeud is his nickname if i am not mistaken) is selling his immaculate he400 for 275euro... Just trying to help out here tongue.gif
post #14177 of 20217
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

If anyone is considering the he400.or other hps please give consideration to Justin at headamp. His prices are good and his service is excellent. Highly recommended.

welp my qeustion about running an HE 4 balanced kinda got un answered >.> so sadly I Think [I should reaserach it honestly]

 

Non the less, my HE 400 may have a new owner [balanced cable and J$ as well] that said, I tried the w1000x with the J$ and it perfectly acceptable for EDM, not as fast as the HE 400 but when I want to listen to edm I need isolation 

 

That said, I might also b getting a Modded D2k... still I'm happy to have heard the HE 400 :3... and To matt u have a PM 

post #14178 of 20217
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

welp my qeustion about running an HE 4 balanced kinda got un answered >.> so sadly I Think

The simple answer is a yes. I have the HE 4 running balanced (Moon Audio silver dragon cable) to my Mjolnir. Now perk up 😃
post #14179 of 20217
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

The simple answer is a yes. I have the HE 4 running balanced (Moon Audio silver dragon cable) to my Mjolnir. Now perk up 😃

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

welp my qeustion about running an HE 4 balanced kinda got un answered >.> so sadly I Think

Fixed u silly bear

 

either way, I might try the HE 4 but atm I'd rather just enjoy the dt 880 and hopefully a modded D2k for EDM 

post #14180 of 20217
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

 

Yeah.. there is too much treble, no doubt, but that isn't the entire cause of the tizziness.

 

What I actually meant though was that with my speakers, I can hear higher frequencies (treble extension?) whereas on the HE400 all I hear is a tizz. It all gets covered up by the tizz. Much improved with EQ but still not quite right.

 

Call it what you will, how ever it occurs.. it just sounds wonky.

 

Try one of my EQ files I uploaded.....  The HE400 still does not sound perfect but it is a big improvement in the treble and does not sound anywhere near as bad for the "Tizzzzzzzzzz" and "Ssssssssssss" of the treble.

 

Still... however much you EQ the HE400 it has still the same problem - They either sound clear but with some treble harshness or smooth treble but slightly muffled, even if you get the EQ perfect they still sound either a bit muffled or a bit harsh, you cannot get them to be both 100% clear and smooth at the same time, but if you get the EQ right you can get it sounding a LOT better anyway. Also they emphasise sibilance too much, unless you EQ it down so much that it messes up the detail... I found the best thing is to have 2 EQ's... One for low bitrate / bad recordings and one for FLAC etc. Although I would prefer to just have some headphones that sounded good with everything, not sure any headphones sound good with low bitrate / bad recordings though, it is funny how there is a 100+ page thread arguing that 128kbps and 320kbps sound identical, when it is so obviously not. 


Edited by nicholars - 11/4/13 at 4:21am
post #14181 of 20217
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

welp my qeustion about running an HE 4 balanced kinda got un answered >.> so sadly I Think [I should reaserach it honestly]

 

Non the less, my HE 400 may have a new owner [balanced cable and J$ as well] that said, I tried the w1000x with the J$ and it perfectly acceptable for EDM, not as fast as the HE 400 but when I want to listen to edm I need isolation 

 

That said, I might also b getting a Modded D2k... still I'm happy to have heard the HE 400 :3... and To matt u have a PM 

 

The Denon Dxxx are excellent for EDM, not very good for other genres such as metal or rock etc. They might seem a bit slow and bloated compared to the HE400.... I would like to get another pair but for some reason Denon decided it would be a good idea to discontinue the Dx000 series and replace them with the (bad) dx00 series Now the only option is get used Dxxxx or TH600/TH900 which cost a lot.


Edited by nicholars - 11/4/13 at 4:20am
post #14182 of 20217

The treble on the HE-400 is too agressive to listen to for an extended period of time with no EQ.

That beeing said, i found myself using the Fiio E17 controls more than once to increse the treble for a few songs.

Depnds on too many factors i think.


Edited by catspaw - 11/4/13 at 4:57am
post #14183 of 20217
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

The Denon Dxxx are excellent for EDM, not very good for other genres such as metal or rock etc. They might seem a bit slow and bloated compared to the HE400.... I would like to get another pair but for some reason Denon decided it would be a good idea to discontinue the Dx000 series and replace them with the (bad) dx00 series Now the only option is get used Dxxxx or TH600/TH900 which cost a lot.

 

Going to try and score a MOdded D2k with the funds from the HE 400 sale. 

post #14184 of 20217
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Have you owned the dxk before? I had the d5k for a year and then got into the he400 and sold the d5k. Fast forward a year...I had a chance to buy the d7k for a great price and pulled the trigger. I sold it a week later. It's tough to get used the qualities of orthos and then go back to dynamic drivers. 

 

Just my 2c...

post #14185 of 20217
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Have you owned the dxk before? I had the d5k for a year and then got into the he400 and sold the d5k. Fast forward a year...I had a chance to buy the d7k for a great price and pulled the trigger. I sold it a week later. It's tough to get used the qualities of orthos and then go back to dynamic drivers. 

 

Just my 2c...

I have not, but my HE 400 well I've not gotten used to it as it sits on my desk most of the time... I don't need an open back EDM can I need a closed one for when I'm sitting in class. Not to mention I enjoy my w1000x for edm equally as I do the HE 400. The w1000x [with J$] are nicer with Drum n Bass, and the HE 400 for faster tighter Break Beat Dub Step.

 

AFter the first weeks of having them, I started using them less and less... as most of my time at home is spent gaming or with movies. And the vocals finally got to me on the HE 400

 

not to mention I never planned to get the HE 400 it was rather impusleivly! And I enjoyed it but soon after I got it... my at home EDM listening kinda plummeted. Now I really need something closed for while I'm at class

 

Any ways the cable is sold so the HE 400 is going to b sold. As I've no intention to keep it and use it only as SE. At that point the dt 880 kinda kicks it around [mostly due to the AGD NFB 10ES2 having a better Balanced out than SE out] 

post #14186 of 20217
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Going to try and score a MOdded D2k with the funds from the HE 400 sale.

A D2k and a w1000x are not very complimentary to each other, the D2k sounds a lot like a  bassier W1000x with the midrange sucked out. Lawton mods improve on the balance, but the W1000x replicates the voice much better. The only thing I would give the D2k the win on between the two is comfort and bass extension. I actually prefer the W1000x over the 7k a bit, but I have strayed away from the original quest for bass when I started in this hobby.

post #14187 of 20217

TBH for gaming and movies I would recommend the good ol' HD650.... They are excellent for films and games.... For EDM though the HD650 are not good. I find the HE400 to be an upgrade to both the HD650 and D2000 individually but if someone offered me some HD650 + Dx000 in exchange for the HE400 I would definitely take the HD650 + Dx000 combo, if the Dx000 were still available I would probably sell the HE400 and get HD650 + D5000 but STUPIDLY Denon released the D600 which are poor. The D2000 still have quite a lot of sibilance similar to the HE400 although probably not as bad as the HE400, the HD650 are so smooth you could listen to them at 120db and still not get listening fatigue, no sibilance at all, but they are quite boring for fast music or EDM.


Edited by nicholars - 11/4/13 at 6:17am
post #14188 of 20217
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I have not, but my HE 400 well I've not gotten used to it as it sits on my desk most of the time... I don't need an open back EDM can I need a closed one for when I'm sitting in class. Not to mention I enjoy my w1000x for edm equally as I do the HE 400. The w1000x [with J$] are nicer with Drum n Bass, and the HE 400 for faster tighter Break Beat Dub Step.

 

AFter the first weeks of having them, I started using them less and less... as most of my time at home is spent gaming or with movies. And the vocals finally got to me on the HE 400

 

not to mention I never planned to get the HE 400 it was rather impusleivly! And I enjoyed it but soon after I got it... my at home EDM listening kinda plummeted. Now I really need something closed for while I'm at class

 

Any ways the cable is sold so the HE 400 is going to b sold. As I've no intention to keep it and use it only as SE. At that point the dt 880 kinda kicks it around [mostly due to the AGD NFB 10ES2 having a better Balanced out than SE out] 

Have you heard the MD's?

post #14189 of 20217
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

Have you heard the MD's?

Actually yes I have. I owned the Mad Dog 3.1 for a little while. I hated it with my current Hybrid Tube... reluctant to try it again honestly.

 

And the W1000x With J$ Pads sounds like a bassy version of it self with the mids sucked out... I'm shooting for a D2k with a D7k Wood Back and Lawton Mods... is the W1000x really that simmillar to it :/

 

Hoping Lawton Pads+Cable would bring the D2k to it's top levels... or lol I could always grab another W1000x Mod it and slap J$ on it xD [Not really I'm just kidding there...] 

 

I really don't want to be swapping pads on my w1000x every other day but I suppose I could...

 

Still it's either a Modded D2k or a Balaned MD 3.2 at this point for the closed HE 400 replacement... The cable is already sold just need to sell off the Headphone it self along with the J$ pads I don't mind pad swapping but doing it daily would annoy me >.> 

 

but again, I didn't really need the HE 400. Got them impulsively and mostly just to have the experince of hearing them... and after having them for about a month... they aren't un impressive but I'm not using them as much as I do my W1000x and DT 880 

 

And sadly the Vocal Thread has xPLODED with new artists... all of which seem to not have any studio albums out atm...


Edited by Mshenay - 11/4/13 at 6:25am
post #14190 of 20217
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

It's a tizzy treble because there's too much treble.  The HE-400's treble is softer by nature than the LCD2 treble that's a little hard sounding.  There also isn't much ringing issues with the HE-400's treble either.  It's almost purely a quantity issue.


 - what you said.

 

But "too much" is an overstatement. I would qualify that statement by pointing out that in my case "too much" amounts to about 2-3 dB. Cutting it that much makes the treble about 'perfect' to my preferences. When I listen to Pandora, I am running a 3dB boost at 50hz, and again can go for hours without discomfort. I would also point out that, again, the upper bounds of these phones are NOT where the majority of music is reproduced. I thought that was the "air"?

 

I do think a big part of the reason is that I rarely listen very loud - the O2 is usually around 9 O'Clock. I could still carry on a conversation beside me if I had to. The HE-400s sibilance and tizz issues have only showed up for me when I push them very loud.

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