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Meh mine are up for sale again. I'm not listening to EDM like I used too honestly... that being said the only time I really want some KICKIN EDM is on Campus in which the open HE 400 is kinda useless... so that said I'm going to try and salvage a balanced MD if I can! 

 

Another positive note, my w1000x opened up with the NFB10ES2. I like spent an entire week with it and ONLY it out of my HM801 and pb1. Listened to my FAV vocal track and it sounded nice, I listend to the same song on my DT 880 and 

 

OMG WHAT THE HELL IS THIS... it was so balanced q.q I missed the intamcy of the w1000x [hurrary] so that said... the HE 400 is going to get even less head time with the w1000x being used at home as well >.> since with EQ+J$ Pads it's a nice EDM can [not as nice as the HE 400 but again not listening to a lot of EDM atm]

 

OMG I've never heard that before in this song [the vocalist has like a low fi whisper in your right ear during the chorus which matches the nature of the song] ! Yay the NFB 10ES2 just got another point for awesome details! 

 

... poor He 400 q.q lacks the upper mids [without eq] to pick up on those nuances 

post #14132 of 21783

The problem I have noticed with EQ'ing the mids on the HE400 is that for some reason they just sound "off" if you change them much from default. At the moment I have gone back to a bass boost below 100hz, a very small boost to the lower mids (about +0.8db) and then I have left it pretty much flat to 6khz where I have treble rolled off a bit.... After all my experimenting trying to even out the mids and remove the glare I went back to flat EQ and found that although there is some glare and the upper mids are a bit recessed it just sounds better that way with these headphones.... I think the pad mods help enough with the glare and mids.... So if you want headphones with a lot of upper mids... Get some other headphones... because even though you can EQ the HE400 to have more upper mids it just does not sound right. Leaving the mids pretty much flat and boosting the bass / lowering the treble works very well though. TBH I quite like the mids balance on these headphones as it is, not perfect but sounds nice with most genres... Still the same EQ file I posted before, Just deleted some of the points.

 


Edited by nicholars - 11/2/13 at 6:03am
post #14133 of 21783
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welp... Zombie X might be able to offer a nice alternitive. Not sure if he does HifiMan cables but it's possible he does. I like his work... there are plenty of other ppl as well that could offer you a ROUGH TOUGH recable 

 

a shame to hear the stock cable isn't holding up to well 

Bigger shame to check prices over at Hifiman and find that they want $60-$100 dollars for replacements. I never really liked the canare's as it was.

 

Does anyone know any details about the cables? Particularly the way they are terminated? I would be up for making my own.

post #14134 of 21783
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Originally Posted by MrMateoHead View Post
 

Bigger shame to check prices over at Hifiman and find that they want $60-$100 dollars for replacements. I never really liked the canare's as it was.

 

Does anyone know any details about the cables? Particularly the way they are terminated? I would be up for making my own.

Check the DiY Forum and the cable thread there as well. And Yea $100 for a cable is BONKERS. I would sell you mine but uhh well I kinda need it xD [for resale pourposes] BUt for $100 I'm pretty sure you could get a DIY replacement that even sounded better :O 

post #14135 of 21783
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Here is another one for you, flat but with treble reduction...  It has almost as much detail as no EQ setting but the pain inducing "tizz" from the treble and the sibilance is almost gone....

 

http://www.filedropper.com/eqflat1310_1

 

 

 

I am bored of EQ'ing now so that is the last one :D 

 

I've been using this EQ today and I have to say Im impressed with it. Like you say same detail yet much less fatiguing. I'm just curious, is there a reason why the whole spectrum is lowered by hald a decibel? Could you possibly supply an EQ file with the spectrum at 0 db?

post #14136 of 21783
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I've been using this EQ today and I have to say Im impressed with it. Like you say same detail yet much less fatiguing. I'm just curious, is there a reason why the whole spectrum is lowered by hald a decibel? Could you possibly supply an EQ file with the spectrum at 0 db?

 

Just to make sure everything is below 0 DB, I don't think it makes any difference but if you want to make it exactly 0db then change the dot on the left (the one called "gain") to "0db" That dot only changes the gain and not anything else....

 

This is the EQ I have settled on after trying various combinations... I found it the best balance between the stock sound and removing peaks / glare. (THAT DOT ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE GAIN ONE... JUST CHANGE THAT TO 0DB)

 


Edited by nicholars - 11/3/13 at 6:07am
post #14137 of 21783

You could either EQ your entire graph below zero, or you can also use the pre-amp of the EQ to do the same thing.  On graphs with limited bands, the pre-amp is more accurate-- there was some topic somewhere in sound science that demonstrated this.  On parametric EQs, both ways work.

post #14138 of 21783

Yep the dot on the left did the trick. I raised it to be in line and nothing appears to exceed the 0 db line anyway so it should be a.o.k (no clipping).

 

Despite the treble being smoothed out with this config, I'm still getting some fatigue as a result of my bright recordings. No fault of the HE-400 of course. It's such a shame most of today's music is overly and unnecessarily bright.

 

edit: My non-bright recordings sound brilliant I should mention. 


Edited by beaver316 - 11/3/13 at 6:37am
post #14139 of 21783

Raven, I haven't yet found any pre-amp function in electri-q. If it's there it isn't visibly obvious.

post #14140 of 21783
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

You could either EQ your entire graph below zero, or you can also use the pre-amp of the EQ to do the same thing.  On graphs with limited bands, the pre-amp is more accurate-- there was some topic somewhere in sound science that demonstrated this.  On parametric EQs, both ways work.

 

I don't think electiQ has a pre amp function? Just put the gain point to 0db or -1db... Shouldn't make any difference AFAIK. TO keep sound quality best I just try to minimise the amount of different volume controls I use.... eg. Use WASAPI in foobar and leave Foobar volume at 100%, set up replaygain so all volumes are the same, set windows volume control to 24bit and only use that to control the volume.

 

I have found that since I have EQ my HE400 properly that my listening habits have changed.... Before I would use the HE400 for an hour or so and then usually take them off because of ear fatigue / sibilance.... Since I have EQ'd them properly they are a bit less "exciting" sounding than the default headphones... but I can listen to them for hours with no problems at all. I think they sound better now as well as smoother, in stock form I think HIFIman made them too exciting sounding to the point that the sibilance and "tizzy" treble is a big problem for a lot of people, although in a shop demo or something it might sound good, after a few hours on your head, not so much.... With proper EQ though these are easily my favorite headphones now (until I get some more money :veryevil:).


Edited by nicholars - 11/3/13 at 6:36am
post #14141 of 21783

Mine does.. on the right side.

 

post #14142 of 21783
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

Mine does.. on the right side.

 

is urs the paid for version! 

post #14143 of 21783
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

Mine does.. on the right side.

 

 

The newer version of ElectriQ and the Poshopit that I use does not have that, I do not see that it is a problem because you can just keep everything below 0db.

 

If it is the paid version then unfortunately it is not available now (officially) because Aixcoustic solutions is no more.


Edited by nicholars - 11/3/13 at 10:28am
post #14144 of 21783

Its the free one.. says posihfopit edition on there.

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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

Its the free one.. says posihfopit edition on there.

 

Well I am not lying lol.... My version doesn't have that bar, or the normal version I have... Maybe that is an old version and they removed the bar?

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