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post #14041 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

I will send you my EQ or post it in this thread if possible, as an experiment you can try it and see if you prefer it, to me the HE400 sound almost unlistenable in stock form at other than at low volumes. I still cannot believe how good they sound now, I have not been able to take them off since I have got the EQ for them perfected, took me about 5 hours of tweaking haha. I always thought "these are the best headphones for the money but I want to upgrade due to the issues and harsh / sibilance etc." .... Now I currently have no urge to upgrade, they are amazing now with electronic music, even vocals sound natural... they still have that crisp sound but they are almost perfectly balanced, including the upper midrange which everyone complains about. If I run a frequency sweep on the stock headphone they are pretty much all over the place with the volume of different frequencies but now they are almost perfectly neutral volume from 20hz - 20khz.  Any negative effect EQ may have  (I cant notice any unless it is a poor EQ) is nothing compared to the improvement in sound quality....

 

I still think the most important EQ setting for these is a boost in the 2-6KHz region of about 3-4dB. It makes them much more lively, the vocals more clear, and I don't have to kill the treble as much (only a 2-3dB dip at 10kHz). I would be interested in testing your EQ if you could post the settings file here please, its a bit hard to replicate it, thanks.

post #14042 of 19810
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Originally Posted by mogulmaster View Post
 

How do you solve that ringing in 700-1200hz? Solved by lowering the EQ (by how much?) or does it get fixed with the jergpads?

 

Well you cannot get rid of it completely, because it is a problem with the drivers, but you can get it to be pretty much inaudible by carefully EQ'ing and also the Jergpads help as well, Jergpads and EQ and it is not really noticable to me any more whereas there was obvious glare before. I will post my new EQ or upload it when I get a chance. Also if you get it right you can bring out the recessed mids around 1000-4000khz without even EQ'ing the volume of them up very much, if you get the curve right from the lower midrange to the upper midrange with a dip for the area with the ringing you can get the whole midrange to sound nicely balanced without changing any frequencies by more than about 1.5db... not 100% perfect but a huge improvement over the stock headhones anyway. This is not possible with graphic EQ because it is nowhere near accurate enough.

 

Also lowering the two big treble spikes while leaving most of the other parts alone you can get a very nicely balanced sound which is not sibilant and although a bit less detailed than stock it is not anything you would notice if you had not heard that first.... Still sound more detailed than most headphones.. The default HE400 with no EQ does not sound balanced to me... But some people are not bothered about sibilance whereas it gives me pain after an hour or two.... I listened to them for about 6 hours yesterday with no issues at all.

post #14043 of 19810
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

 

I still think the most important EQ setting for these is a boost in the 2-6KHz region of about 3-4dB. It makes them much more lively, the vocals more clear, and I don't have to kill the treble as much (only a 2-3dB dip at 10kHz). I would be interested in testing your EQ if you could post the settings file here please, its a bit hard to replicate it, thanks.

 

I made another one last night I will post the file, is it possible to upload files to the forum? If not I will upload it somewhere else and post a link to the download.


Edited by nicholars - 10/29/13 at 1:16pm
post #14044 of 19810

I have never heard anything like these headphones for trance, drum&bass, hardstyle.... They are good at other genres but they are MADE for electronic music!

post #14045 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

 

I made another one last night I will post the file, is it possible to upload files to the forum? If not I will upload it somewhere else and post a link to the download.

 

Not sure you can upload here, just post a link to sendspace or mediafire.

post #14046 of 19810
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post
 

 

Not sure you can upload here, just post a link to sendspace or mediafire.

 

Will do that tomorrow, I will upload the file with the points plotted on it then you can adjust it how you want, just don't change the shape much. Not sure how much variation there is between different revisions of HE400, I have the white grille ones with jerg modded leather pads. Should be about the same unless you have the rev.1.

post #14047 of 19810

Yeah +1 on electronic music for these badboys. That bass is ferocious and the layering and space is so cool. makes for one hell of a journey through space and time.

 

 

my amperiors are also a great electronic can for anyone who is interested. The bass is more punchy than he-400 but not nearly on the same level of quality as the 400, obv. still very engaging and delicious sound through just an iphone


Edited by mogulmaster - 10/29/13 at 2:28pm
post #14048 of 19810

Hi...thanks for the efforts in providing this for us.  One small thing I need help with.  Downloaded the Electri-q program and installed, but only get one plugin - dsp_electriq.dll  Don't see the dsp_electriq (posihfopit edition).dll anywhere.  Any idea where it could be found?  

 

Thanks,

Darren

post #14049 of 19810
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Originally Posted by Warmuth327 View Post
 

Hi...thanks for the efforts in providing this for us.  One small thing I need help with.  Downloaded the Electri-q program and installed, but only get one plugin - dsp_electriq.dll  Don't see the dsp_electriq (posihfopit edition).dll anywhere.  Any idea where it could be found?  

 

Thanks,

Darren

 

You need to download and install both standard and poshopit edition, open the standard program change window size then close. After than use poshopit only. Put the .dll in your foobar > components folder.

post #14050 of 19810

Sorry for being a bit thick...but when I go to the link provided it only provides one download option for an .exe file.  Don't see the poshopit version shown independently.  This is the link provided, correct?

 

http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/vst-plugins/eqs-filters/electri-q/

 

Thanks again for your help.  Total newbie here with first set of phones :-)  HE-400 with Schitt Modi/Magni

 

Darren

post #14051 of 19810

You should install the standard one and also the poshopit one and put both the .dll files in the foobar components directors.... When you install the standard one it asks you where you want to install the program and the VST file. You need to put that into foobar. poshipit is just a .dll I IIRC. So put that in the same place then open it in the taskbar using the VST wrapper tray icon.

post #14052 of 19810

Right...understand that, but I don't see where to get the poshopit one?  Not sure if it is supported or offered any more based on the wording on the site as there is only one download available.

 

Any place else to get it?

 

Cheers,

Darren

post #14053 of 19810
AM so happy i am a pragmatist..no worries about those kind of things.. It would probably crash my simple brain anyway biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 10/29/13 at 8:15pm
post #14054 of 19810
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Originally Posted by Warmuth327 View Post
 

Right...understand that, but I don't see where to get the poshopit one?  Not sure if it is supported or offered any more based on the wording on the site as there is only one download available.


It used to be on the link below.. but it seems that's dead now.
http://www.aixcoustic.com/uploads/media/Electri-Q_(posihfopit)_Install.exe

 

It's still here though..
http://www.vstplanet.com/VST_effects/Filters/Electri-Q_(posihfopit)_Install.exe

post #14055 of 19810
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

I think the reason the HE400 respond so well to EQ and mods is that they have very good drivers which are capable of producing all frequencies from sub bass up to ultrasonic frequencies. Other than the uneven frequency response they do not have any obvious flaws such as bad soundstage, closed sound, slow response and all the usual things that headphones around this price range usually have... at least one obvious flaw which cannot be fixed. If you want to change the frequency response on the HE400 you can make them sound almost however you want because the drivers are good to excellent with all frequencies, especially the bass.
This is a good point. The 400 responds better to EQ than any hp I've personally owned. I wonder if all planar phones respond as well to EQ.
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