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All time favorite rock album to test with is AIC: Unplugged. :D

 

 

That is my favorite live album for sure. And in my top five favorite bands, Layne staley is my third favorite frontman,only behind phil anselmo and chris cornell(if you only go by soundgarden and temple of the dog)

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Originally Posted by nicolo View Post

Hi,

I am planning to pre-order the Light Harmonic Geek DAC+AMP. Will this be good match with the HE-400?

If so, which power output level should i select while ordering it? They have 3 power output options, 450mW for <100 ohm headphones, 720mW for 100-300 ohm headphones, and 1000mW for 300 + ohm headphones.

Thanks in advance:)

 

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Hardly anyone has heard it so I doubt people could give you feedback. There's a couple impressions in the CanJam thread. Regarding power, I would base that on other headphones you own or want to own someday. They all would work well with the 400.

 

Hi Ethan. Thanks for the response. I am planning to get the LCD2 early next year. Found out after looking through the CANJAM thread that the LCD2 was best driven by the 1000mW version.

 

I have paired the HE-400 with the iBasso DX100 at high gain, generally around the 220-230 volume mark. Since that's 5.0V rms, i figured that with i would need a power output level of 714mW to drive this adequately. I guess i should order the 1000mW version then. The only thing i am worried about is that the HE-400 doesn't get damaged!!! Is that likely with 1000mW?

 

Regards

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Hi Ethan. Thanks for the response. I am planning to get the LCD2 early next year. Found out after looking through the CANJAM thread that the LCD2 was best driven by the 1000mW version.

I have paired the HE-400 with the iBasso DX100 at high gain, generally around the 220-230 volume mark. Since that's 5.0V rms, i figured that with i would need a power output level of 714mW to drive this adequately. I guess i should order the 1000mW version then. The only thing i am worried about is that the HE-400 doesn't get damaged!!! Is that likely with 1000mW?

Regards
There is no danger of damage. I know of people that have run them off speaker amps. Just don't turn them up beyond where your comfortable listening - protect your hearing wink.gif
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There is no danger of damage. I know of people that have run them off speaker amps. Just don't turn them up beyond where your comfortable listening - protect your hearing wink.gif

Thanks muchly:)

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For better comfort should I buy a beyerdynamic headband like http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Leatherette-Universal-Sennheiser-Beyerdynamic/dp/B00862522A

 

 

 

Or should I just wrap the top of my headphones in bubblewrap.

 

 

and does doing anything like this affect sound quality?  I seem to have this issue where I have to adjust the cups every 15minutes because they dont feel "even". this didn't happen until i changed to the velour pads but I like the velour sq much better

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If you are having problems with the HE400 treble etc.... I strongly recommend you go through this guide and properly equalize them..... I did it with the graphic equalizer initially and had quite good results but I spent a bit of time doing it properly as described in the guide using ElectriQ parametric equalizer with Sinegen, pink noise etc.....

 

The HE400 after this are almost not harsh at all, even compared to something like HD600..... Almost no sibilance and overall a massive improvement in the sound quality and evenness of the treble.... Using Sinegen shows you just how extreme the treble peaks on the HE400 are at around 7500 and 12000 khz and also the ringing around 700-1200hz.... I was doing it using the graph from innerfidelity before but apparently this does not represent the actual frequency response you are hearing on your head with your individual ears and also HE400 will vary between different batches / headphones etc....

 

If you want to get the best out of the HE400 then take the time to EQ them properly and you will be amazed at how much better they sound... You can get decent results with the Foobar 31 band EQ but the results from doing it properly using Sinegen and ElectriQ are night and day better... Bit of a pain in the *** to get it all setup and learn how to do it but once you know how to do it then it is pretty easy...

 

This guide....

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial/915#

 

Do it now!


Edited by nicholars - 10/25/13 at 3:39pm
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If you are having problems with the HE400 treble etc.... I strongly recommend you go through this guide and properly equalize them..... I did it with the graphic equalizer initially and had quite good results but I spent a bit of time doing it properly as described in the guide using ElectriQ parametric equalizer with Sinegen, pink noise etc.....

 

The HE400 after this are almost not harsh at all, even compared to something like HD600..... Almost no sibilance and overall a massive improvement in the sound quality and evenness of the treble.... Using Sinegen shows you just how extreme the treble peaks on the HE400 are at around 7500 and 12000 khz.... I was doing it using the graph from innerfidelity before but apparently this does not represent the actual frequency response you are hearing on your head with your individual ears and also HE400 will vary between different batches / headphones etc....

 

If you want to get the best out of the HE400 then take the time to EQ them properly and you will be amazed at how much better they sound... You can get decent results with the Foobar 31 band EQ but the results from doing it properly using Sinegen and ElectriQ are night and day better... Bit of a pain in the *** to get it all setup and learn how to do it but once you know how to do it then it is pretty easy...

 

This guide....

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/413900/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial/915#

 

Do it now!


Care to toss me your EQ in pm? I remember you posted one and I asked for the file lol. I want to see how yours compares to mine.

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Care to toss me your EQ in pm? I remember you posted one and I asked for the file lol. I want to see how yours compares to mine.

 

I was saying about individual hearing differences and also variations with different HE400 batches etc. I could send you the EQ file but I strongly recommend that you do it properly.... The HE400 have the ability to sound twice as good as they do out of the box.... Just you need to make the effort to EQ them properly (as well as the pad mods)....

 

Seriously the stock headphones with no EQ sound terrible compared to modded and properly EQ. The horrible sounding peaks at ~7.5khz and ~11.5khz and also pretty bad ringing around 800-1200hz.... Sort these out with parametric EQ and Sinegen and they are pretty much non existant... The normal graphic equaliser certainly helps a lot but you cannot remove the bad bits properly without lowering parts that have no problems..... Also when you remove the treble and ringing the upper mids do not sound as recessed.


Edited by nicholars - 10/25/13 at 9:16pm
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I already made one via sinegen, I just wanted to see how yours and mine would compare sonically. mostly because I have the same DAC as you.

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I already made one via sinegen, I just wanted to see how yours and mine would compare sonically. mostly because I have the same DAC as you.

 

Ok I will post a picture of it tomorrow, I am still fiddling with it at the moment. Its good  though because you can get treble to be smoother than with the graphic EQ and at the same time get more detail..... There is something very satisfying about getting better sound without paying any more money :D Can you post your EQ as well? Interested to see if it is similar.

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going to try a Kojo KM-01 Brass SE SS with my w1000x to see if I can't get PERFECTION with it without balancing... the KojoKM-01Brass is like MSRP $900 so it should stomp my pb1 in it's tracks... I was going to try a tube with my w1000x but this might be a better option

 

that said seeing as my he 400 is getting very little head time... she's off to the For Sale Thread! Gatta pamper my beloved w1000x u know 

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Originally Posted by renji1337 View Post
 

I already made one via sinegen, I just wanted to see how yours and mine would compare sonically. mostly because I have the same DAC as you.

 

Here is my EQ....  The HE400 sound so much better now, still 90% of the detail with about 20% of the sibilance of no eq. Also better than the graphic EQ because this has a similar balance but much more detail as I am not cutting out any frequencies which do not need cutting... It is impossible to avoid this with the graphic EQ.

 


Edited by nicholars - 10/26/13 at 7:40pm
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How did you manage to resize the window? Using George's VST wrapper on foobar and the latest posihfopit edition I can't seem to figure it out. 

 

Edit: And just as I post this I figure it out :)


Edited by beaver316 - 10/27/13 at 1:30am
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haha...I often google problems with gear and software and sometimes the search results show myself giving the answer. :blink: Guess it's a product of age. 

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haha...I often google problems with gear and software and sometimes the search results show myself giving the answer. :blink: Guess it's a product of age. 

that's awesome pics p[lz 

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